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Doc Chocolate BBC: What’s up? What’s up? Everybody? It is your man, Doc. Chocolate, BBC. Coming at? You live from Las Vegas, Nevada, and I have another guest who I was able to entice to come on my podcast and I will introduce this little beauty here in just

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a second. But before we get started. I want you guys, ladies, to go to my website, get your free copy of my ebook, which is the bulls, the queens and the Swingers Survival guide to the lifestyle. It’s going to help you navigate through all the issues, the pitfalls and landmines of getting into the lifestyle. If you are new, and trust me. There are a lot of landmines, isn’t there, Guest?

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Jade Li: Lots lots, and you don’t wanna blow your ass up. And so you’re gonna get that copy at Bull’s in queens.com don’t do when you’re driving, though I mean II don’t want y’all getting to an accident or running over a little lady, and you know, just saying, Oh, Dot Chocolate got me

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Doc Chocolate BBC: into an accident, you know, like hey? Guess I gotta tell people that, you know, because looks like people do that shit. Yeah, and try Sue me and shit like that. You know

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Doc Chocolate BBC: the hell is wrong with you people, and and also make sure that you guys go to

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Dot Chocolate, bbc.com. And there you can get my swinger videos, and you can subscribe to my only vans or whatever it is I have up there because I’m going to slowly but surely start switching away from only fans. So. But you guys are still gonna be able to see my spicy fun, real time adventures that I have with

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Doc Chocolate BBC: hot wives and cuckold couples, and, matter of fact, the lovely lady that I have on board me and her like, after a year of planning like we finally shot some sexy film like, what was it like 4 or 5 months ago.

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Jade Li: Yeah, it was September. So, yeah.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: yeah, yeah, yeah, about 4, 5 months ago. So as we record this, it is January. And usually I do it the other way around. So like, usually, what I do is I try to

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Jade Li: get the beautiful ladies on my podcast. First and then they’re like, oh, he’s somewhat charming, so I’m so bad I’m so bad. Hell! Yes, hell! Yes, I’m coming up. My gain is getting better as I get older. It only took me 43 years to achieve. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: right there you go. And also, you guys make sure that you leave a brother a 5 star review on whatever platform you’re listening to this on. So if you’re listening to this on Google, or Spotify or apple itunes whatever it is, leave me a 5 star Review. Leave me a 5 star review, because that’s what allows other people

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Doc Chocolate BBC: who are searching for cuckolding lifestyle swinging. It allows it helps to allow them to find this podcast just so that they can hear the stories of the people, the swingers that I get on this. Podcast so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: without further ado, drum roll. Please let me introduce the lady

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and the queen of the hour. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: she is a swinger, an Asian milk which stands for mother. I like to fuck

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and a video creator. Her husband and she have been into lifestyle for 5 years and have been making content for 2 and a half years. We’ll tell you what her site is here in just a moment.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: She’s a pleaser, so she gets pleasure out of knowing that others have enjoyed their time with her, and she’s able to fulfill fantasies virtually

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Doc Chocolate BBC: she’s a switch, so she can go from being dominant to submissive instantly.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: That kind of turns me on just reading that

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Doc Chocolate BBC: she’s been in the lifestyle, and as a content creator, it not only allows her to fulfill this pleasure of hers, but is also a way that she has made many, many great friends along the way.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Her website is Jade lee.co. And her name is Jade Lee. Aka.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: hot wife, goddess J. Lee. Give her a hand.

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Jade Li: How you doing, girl? I’m doing great. I’m doing great. So it’s always a pleasure seeing you and your beautiful Smiley face and all that. Yeah, your energy. And so how are things going? So you’re located

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Doc Chocolate BBC: in Denver, Colorado. And it was like negative 200 degrees Antarctica temperature up there. Is that correct? Pretty much. Once you get started to get negatives, I don’t know if it matters how low negative you get. It’s just freaking cold. Yeah, it really doesn’t. It really doesn’t. Because, you know, obviously, I’m in Las Vegas. So it’s a lot warmer, you know. It’s about 40 50 degrees.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: But I grew up in Omaha, Nebraska, and I remember the last year jade that I lived there. It was back in 2002. I wanna say

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I, the winner was it was a polar vortex, and it was like negative 5 negative, 10 degrees air temperature. But then the wind chill was negative, 40 or negative 50, and I had a escrow on top of my head, which were some of you guys that are

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Doc Chocolate BBC: non, black culture appropriate. It’s that little hairstyle where you put a little bit of juice in there, and it kind of curls up. You know what I’m saying about jade that shit froze. Yeah, it froze, and it was so cold that, okay.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so ask me, how cold was it?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: How cold was it? It was so cold that when I breathed like there was no cloud or anything that popped out of my mouth.

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Jade Li: It was just freezing instantly. It was just freezing instantly.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, I was like, Damn, I’m black. I don’t. Yeah. I gotta get the not that I gotta get out of here. I’m like, I gotta get the fuck out of here, you know, I was like fuck. So the next year I moved to to Oklahoma, and I say there for 10 years before I moved to to Vegas. So yeah, so so how’s that been like going through, like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you know, doing all the shit that you do in Denver?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I mean, I I’m born and raised. I’m a Carter native, so I’m used to it. This it’s cold, but it’s doable. You know, it’s

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Jade Li: you just layer up, and then you take layers off as you get hot, and then you put them back on. It’s just the way Colorado is. Wow! Does it kinda like entice you to like snuggle with your husband with your bulls definitely makes you not want to get out of the bed? Yes, for sure. You’re like, Oh, man like it’s so warm. Right here. I got the body heat going. It’s yeah. It’s hard to get out of the bed. But

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Jade Li: gotta be an adult and do adult things so and so we already told people how to find you. Is that jade lead.co. And Lee is Li so jade lead.co. What are other places that people can find you at, Miss Jade?

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Jade Li: We’ll see. Let’s see here. I’m on tick tock. I’m on Twitter or ex. Now. I’m on minibids. I’m on fansly. I’m on of I just started a porn hub, so I’m on porn hub now.

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Jade Li: Let’s see what else? I’m on sex, panther, I’m on Clapper. I’m an Ig.

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Jade Li: I think that covers it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: You’re you’re missing one thing, are you on Doc? Chocolate?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, yes, I’m on chocolate, I mean. I would love to have you on me like over and over again. So with me jade film, we

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Doc Chocolate BBC: It was a threesome, and it was with a beautiful, lovely, hot wife. I’m trying to so not say her real name. It was with the beautiful hot wife L.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And like they took turns like writing, my Dick, and writing my face, and that’s like my King, that’s like my finish, like I’ll just like, Oh, my God! Just like that big curvy booty in my face. Yeah, hey? Hey? Jd, hey? You’re writing the shit out of my face, and then my Dick, and, like my, my, Dick has never been the same after you wrote on it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I gotta get a second round definitely. A hot fun time, that’s for sure, and I think part of it was the buildup, because, like you said, we’ve been talking for at that point we’ve been talking for a year

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Jade Li: and just our schedules weren’t lining up. And so it was like the buildup of like, oh, I finally get to play with Doc. Chocolate. Yeah. So I might have got a little animalistic. Oh, shit, hey? The first thing that she said to me, you guys feel like when she, when she met me, cause her and her husband. We went to a hotel takeover, and so like her and her husband Brad, they came, and she was like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, you shorter than I thought. I thought you were 6 foot tall. You have this big personality, you know, right? And then you’re like, Oh, shit you short! 5 7. So oh.

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Jade Li: hey, hey, Dory, it’s not just you like it happens to everybody. Alright so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: hey, hey, my, my, my dig! Isn’t that small?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: She’s like she’s like she. She’s like, yeah. Doc Stick didn’t even go past my clit when we fucked next. So the one day that attracted me to you, jade

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Doc Chocolate BBC: was outside of your personality, because you do have high energy, and you do just have this like lovely nature to you and all that. But from a physical standpoint, you guys, she is beautiful. And you’ve heard this before. And I’m sure you’ve probably heard like.

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Jade Li: Oh, you look so you’re exotic, right? Because, like, she’s okay. Let me just Ca, can I describe you? I have permission. Okay.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: she’s like, Hey, she’s giving me this. I right now. She’s like you better give me a good description, motherfucker, but she’s giving me that eye. Okay, yeah. So she’s she’s about 5, ish? I wanna say 5, 4. Okay? And like she has these. She’s half Asian, half white, so she’s half Japanese, half white, and it brings like this like very

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Doc Chocolate BBC: beautiful, gorgeous like mixture about her right? Because she has these. these naturally olive green eyes.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Hazel, okay? And they’re natural, right? Because, like, because, like a lot of times. What I do is like with somebody has like, really, really pretty eyes, like jade does. I’m always looking. I’m like those contacts. But then I can tell, because, like the pupils are small, right? And I was like, Oh, shit! Those are her real eyes. I was like, she is fucking beautiful. And then she has this like this, like nice

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Doc Chocolate BBC: here with these blonde highlights, and then she has this thick

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Doc Chocolate BBC: booty, and like these hips in these legs, and it’s like she got these child bearing hips. And oh, my God! And one of my finishes, you guys, ladies, is just sit on my face and let me slap your ass, and was great about it was when I was with you, and the lovely

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Doc Chocolate BBC: ill like I hey? You saw me trying to think I was like God, David, I don’t wanna say a real name. Because, yeah, yeah, because, like III don’t wanna have to do a bunch of editing on this. Podcast so I’m like, let me see, I’m like goddamn, I gotta like blot out her name. So I’ll, I was with both who them and both 2 of them like have like these booties, which is just like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: made for us

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Doc Chocolate BBC: black dudes. And so like 80 boys. hey, I’m gonna get canceled. But anyways, so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: that being said, Miss Jade. tell us how you and your awesome hubby, Brad, how did you all get started in the lifestyle?

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Jade Li: How we got started in the lifestyle. Unfortunately, our stories that like exciting and like, Oh, this happened. And then this happened. It’s pretty but I like it, because it’s kind of it’s based off a communication which is what the lifestyle is all about. He came to me one day and just said, I have a fantasy.

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Jade Li: I want to see you with other men. I want to see you sleep with other men. I want to see another guy fuck you good. And I was like. Huh.

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Jade Li: really. Okay, I was, very intrigued and curious, because all my past relationships have been very controlling, possessive, very jealous. And so for my husband.

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Jade Li: At this point we’ve been married for 8 years, and so for my husband to come to me and tell me that he wanted to see another guy fuck me. I was like, Okay, so we just, you know, through open communication, talked about it some more. And it was also a way for us to, so my husband, Brad, is a pansexual.

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Jade Li: and so it was a way for us to kind of also explore that a little bit more together. That wasn’t even his initial thought when he brought the lifestyle up to me. It was more just, you know, to hot life. But then I was like, well, what about you know? What about this like? Can? Is this something that we can do in that space as well? And so that’s kind of how it just came about. It was just through open communication that we decided to venture into lifestyle together.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: That is beautiful. And so what were your like? Initial thoughts like he comes to you? He’s like, All right, baby girl. I wanna see you fuck all the dudes like. How did he like? Say it? Exactly. And then what were your initial

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Jade Li: reactions to that? II was. I know I was quiet, for, like a like the 2 min after. And was just this like, did I hear this? Right? Am I processing his words so Brad’s great at communicating? But when he gets nervous to talk about something. He stumbles so it took him a minute to get it out of his mouth.

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Jade Li: But then he just flat out, just gets frustrated with how he can’t say it. Any flat out just speaks it so what he said precisely, I can’t remember was 5 years ago, but I know I was quiet afterwards. And I was just like.

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Jade Li: Okay, usually, people are like, Oh, I wanna do this because I wanna explore more with women together. And this was like.

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Jade Li: like, I said, coming from a background of having possessive and jealous boyfriends, or my husband telling me that he was not jealous, and he wanted to see me have relations with others. I was a little shocked, so I took a minute to process it.

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Jade Li: And I know most people are like. Well, isn’t that a way for them just to say so? They can sleep with other people? But that never crossed my mind. It never even entered my mind of. That’s why he was bringing it to me. So it was. It was a. It was a quiet couple of minutes afterwards, but then, after that I don’t think we both were just kind of going at it, asking questions and talking about things. And it was like a couple of hour long conversations. So

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Jade Li: okay, like, do you remember what your first question was to him after those like 2 min of silence which pro probably felt like 20 h of silence to Brad I was like, so wait, you want to see me sleep with other men like I had to clarify what he was asking, and so that it was. I think I’m kind of so long ago, but I pretty sure was along the lines of like, well, how does that work like?

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Jade Li: How do we go about this like cause? I knew of the lifestyle, but I didn’t know that there was sites or websites or apps to go to, or, you know, podcast to listen to. So I was like, how do we even go about this? And Brad’s like, Oh, well, I listen to the front port swingers already on their podcast and you know, they talk about different sites that you can get on. And I was like, okay. So he’s already been

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Jade Li: not with it. But he’d already been kind of listening and doing some of his own research.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And like, how long? So you guys are listening to the podcast and you guys have done your talks like, how long did it take before you guys actually

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Jade Li: put the pedal to the middle and actually did action like? Did you go through like clubs first, or did you just like jump straight in? Did you just watch initially like, what was the story, Jay. So we within a week we were getting on Cassidy and creating a profile and just communicating back and forth. So at the time when we first got on there. We were only interested in single men. We weren’t interested in couple swaps. We were kinda just kind of going in as a hot life couple.

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Jade Li: So we only we’re chatting with single men on through Cassidy, and after doing that for about a month or so, I was like, you know what I want. I wanna be in the environment of, you know, a swingers club. I wanna put myself in the environment so I can experience it and see.

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Jade Li: So within a month we were going to the Scarlet ranch here in Colorado, and we did Rookie first time or mistake. We went in the evening for dinner. We went at dinner. There we were there for like 6 h, 6 or 7 h, because we got there at 60’clock.

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Jade Li: Never again. Will I go to the club that early? I think there was maybe 2 other couples there at the time that we first got there. So I mean there was experience. It was fun we got to kind of walk around the place and kinda really see it without other people around. So that was kinda nice but we went, and we just

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Jade Li: we talked with people, but we really went and just watched. I just wanted to kind of

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Jade Li: see how I felt about being in an open environment review. There was open play and you know, learning about the the private rooms and the curtains and all that so we didn’t do anything there. We just went and watched, and we kind of, you know, made out with each other for a little bit. But that was really it. It was just more to go and see how I felt being there. And I was excited. Oh, okay, that’s good. So.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: hey, you just have this like little cute ass, smile that pop in your face, and he’s so like I was excited. Shit so. And that’s one key piece of advice that I get to people. If I’m coaching them in the lifestyle, they’re asking questions about the lifestyle jade. I always tell them that

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Doc Chocolate BBC: when you first go into this right, I can’t even say it right like, just do a little bit of reconnaissance, and just like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: scope out the land and just soak it in, and don’t have any expectations to play. Just go there to watch, and then, if you do do anything physical, do it with each other, you know, and then have your initial set of rules, which is always gonna change. Yeah. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: okay, so this first one, you guys go, you watch. You’re up there for like 6 h, and you’re like, Oh, my God! This is so early! But then your eyes getting big, and you’re like, I like this. So when did you guys actually start playing?

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Jade Li: So after that we went to the club? So this was in January, I think, of 2,020, I think 2,019, 2,019. I can’t remember and then so we went to the club again the next month for Mardi Gras, the Mardi Gras, and we met a couple that that night that we hung out with for about an hour or 2 upstairs, playing pool shooting the shit talking, and then decided that we wanted to go downstairs to swap with them.

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Jade Li: It was a fun experience, but not my most memorable experience. It’s actually how we developed a few more rules for us as well like. So the couple was really nice and the gentleman was a little drunk a little too drunk. But we were just rolling with it. But you know, kissing them, he tasted like alcohol. It was just

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Jade Li: wasn’t the best and

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Jade Li: days, and it’s almost like the smell of alcohol was coming off of them still. And it was like, Okay, this is.

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Jade Li: But you know, I was like, I’m not. Gonna I’m not. I’m gonna keep it open, mind, I’m gonna go with it and see. But it’s kinda how. So we ended up just doing like soft swap stuff with them. And then I was like, you know, I’m really not feeling this

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Jade Li: so we I excused us.

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Jade Li: Cause. We knew then that it just that’s that was the disconnect. We didn’t know them. We just met. I’m sure they were nice, and they were cool, but there was not enough time to build a connection with them

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Doc Chocolate BBC: that makes sense. That makes sense, because a lot of times, you know, especially in this day and age people. Well, II personally think that it’s better to connect with people, you know, in telegram groups or on sites like Cassidy or telegram groups or Twitter X, whatever you wanna call it, and you know, just develop that, you know. Hey? I know you just like me. And you, you know, like we have been chatting for about a year.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you know, and like we have planned on meeting up and playing, I think, like 2 or 3 times. Yeah. And I remember you came down for your birthday. And I was like, all right, I’m gonna give her some birthday chocolates. It’s my dig in a box. You know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Vegas, I was with another guy, and I’ll leave his name unsaid out. I was hanging with him, and he was telling me, yo, doc, about to meet with Jay later on, because I think you were staying at resource world.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: was it? Yeah, out here in Vegas? And I was like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: okay. And then he told me to time, cause I think he’s supposed to meet you at 10 pm. Or something like that, or 9 Pm. And so you know I’m watching him gamble, and I think he’s playing blackjack, and we’re at some hotel on the strip, and then I’m like yo. Aren’t you supposed to go meet up with jade. And he’s like, Oh, yeah,

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Doc Chocolate BBC: yeah, yeah, I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll tell her that I’ll you know. Give her her later. And so I’m thinking, he texted you. And then I’m like, Did you text her? And he’s like, No, no, not yet. And I was like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I you should text her right. And you know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so we get to the we get to the hotel, and then, you know, he’s calling you, and then you’re not pick it up, and then he’s like, I know she hears me because it’s ringing, and this and that, and I’m like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: please don’t tell her that I’m with you, cause I could tell, like somebody in my head told me that he was

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So they go by and told me that you solve the the call. And you’re like, Yeah, I’m not picking up. And I was like, Okay, yeah, I don’t want it to get connected with this shit because I don’t want her. I don’t want Jason’s first impression on me to be.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Would this do? I just got here the traffic and I was like.

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Jade Li: dude. You’re like 45 min late, like, no, I’m not picking up your call, either, did he? No, yeah, see, it’s like, there you go, you guys communication. You gotta communicate this stuff right? So just like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Jade and Brad, they had good proper communication, you know. He properly communicated to to his beautiful lady what he wanted.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and when you’re trying to meet up with couples or singles, you gotta communicate stuff, you know. You gotta let them know ahead of time. So alright. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: tell us a little bit more about pansexuality. So there’s gonna be some people that are kind of confused because there’s a lot of terms, you know. So obviously. You’re bisexual. Do you classify yourself as bisexual? Or I do now. So when actually we first got into lifestyle, I was not bisexual. I’m straight.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: It wasn’t until March of last year that I started exploring more

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Jade Li: with women. So about a year ago, almost now that I started exploring more with women and I think it was just finding the right women to explore with. That made me go. Okay, no. I enjoy this in the past when I had ever explored pick women, I was like, Yeah, this is not. I’m not feeling this. It’s not doing anything for me. So I think it was finding the right women that I just really connected with to open that door a little bit further for me.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, and like W. One of the things I love doing is like, if II love threesomes and reverse gang banks with multiple women that’s like another one of my kings.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and I like one thing that I love is like, if, like like a woman, 2 women are giving me a blow job at the same time they’re kissing at the same time as well, and like you and hot wife L. You guys are doing that so like at the same time on my Dick, you know, just like like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: beautiful. And do you think that women are

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Doc Chocolate BBC: cause? Obviously not all women are Bi. But do you think that, like women, are typically more predisposed of being like bicurious, bisexual, bi-friendly?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: What? What are your thoughts on that?

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Jade Li: I think that they are not, I think, because the world and the lifestyle is more accepting of bi women, more women say it. I think there’s a lot of by curious buy open by situational men lifestyle, but because it’s still kind of like. Hush, hush! Not as many of them come out as say that they are by or by situational or by comfortable.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, so do you feel like it’s kind of like the same like percentages like Buy or pan men

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Jade Li: compared to women, I think there’s probably more percentage wise as far as women go. Yes, but I don’t think there’s that big of a percentage If

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Jade Li: if every man that was biased came out and said they were by. I think there would that the percentage would be smaller, but because not as many men come out saying that they’re bi. It looks like there’s a lot more by women than there are by men.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. Because, yeah, cause. I mean, you know, in this society it’s, obviously more acceptable for a woman to be by or whatnot. You know hell, not even just in lifestyle, but you know in general as well, you know. So you know you have to be a swinger, you know. Woman says, Oh, yeah, I kiss the girl, and I liked it, you know. Hey? Join the club right? But oh, that’s fucking hot. But then you hear a man say that, and it it’s, it’s, it’s a different reaction.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, it really does really does. And I mean, I classify myself as straight. But like, I’m very, very accepting of, you know everybody’s sexual whatnot. And so yeah, cause like, you know, I had. I’ve had a couple like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: cooks or husbands, you know, like, give me a blow job with their wife. And I’m like, Yeah, yeah, don’t really like that. But that’s you know, whatever you know what I’m saying, Oh, Rebelli, okay, okay. A. A. A. A. We may do that when you all to come back down to Vegas there, but like to tell me a little bit more about Brad. So like, obviously, he’s pansexual. So can you tell us, like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: what’s the difference between pen sexuality versus bisexuality?

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Jade Li: Yeah. So like when you’re by, you’re attracted to both men and women. So you’re attracted to the same sex. And you’re attracted to the opposite sex. Pretty self explanatory simple. When you’re pan sexual, their sexual orientation has nothing to do. If you’re attracted to them, you’re attracted to more of them as a person. Then you are their sexual preferences or their sexual orientation. So like as a pansexual, you could be attracted to men.

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Jade Li: women trans nonbinary. Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with the attraction.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. So cause. It seems like there’s a lot of overlap between the the 2 terms. But yeah, I could see the the clear definition well, the clear dividing line between that. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so tell me, you guys like, W. What would you classify your sales as so? Obviously, you’re not cuckold.

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Jade Li: are you stag vixen? Would you say we’re kind of more stag vixen? You know, I would definitely say, that’s more of the term that we are close to. Besides being like a hot wife couple, we are more stag vixen, but at the same time he does also play it’s not just me playing, and but we are, I would say the closest term would be stag and mix and dynamic

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Jade Li: beautiful. Do you like seeing him play with the Brad? So Brad says it like this. He’s like, okay, cause he’s a car guy, too. So he says, you have your car. You love your car. You know how your car feels. You know how your car sounds, but you’ve never seen your car in action because you’re always behind the wheel.

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Jade Li: He’s like I get to watch my car in action, driving around and doing, you know, donuts and shit and that’s it’s a it’s a pretty self, explanatory, breakdown way of explaining it. He gets to watch his favorite car take a ride.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I love that I love that and trust me. Y’all jade is a beautiful fun ride. Just saying, is she got 4 wheel drive because she needs that open Denver. But yeah, I do. I like watching him, too, because I know how much he can pleasure me. And so II like watching him do it to other people.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Do you like watching more or participating, more participating, participating? Okay, okay, do you like playing with guys? More ladies? More?

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Jade Li: It’s it’s now it’s like it’s like a really like I don’t. I don’t know if I have a favorite. I like playing with them together. That’s my favorite. I like when there’s men and women all just having fun together. I don’t know if I like one solo over the other. I like it when it’s a good mixture. So yeah, I don’t.

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Jade Li: I don’t have a favorite.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So you like orgies.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, I like, yeah, I like orgies, too. I love the the sexual synergy like when you’re in a hot orgy and bodies all around, and everybody’s switching back and forth. And exactly, we actually had our first 8 person orgy at Pod Bash.

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Jade Li: Oh, shit! Tell us about that. Invite. The fuck. Was that invited? I think I saw the video of it afterwards. I was like.

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Jade Li: that was hot. Yeah, it was hot. It was hot. I mean, there was only a small video of it, because, it was 4 couples and one couple. They don’t a film, they don’t. They’re not content creators. So it was film for personal pleasure. But it wasn’t film to put out there for the world to see. Unfortunately, but one of the couples was

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Jade Li: hot Wi-fi L and her hubby A/C, and then the other was another couple Lexi and her her hubby and then the other couple is, they’re not content, creators. So.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: but you actually can, because, like they’re on Twitter. And they gave me permission to say their name when I interviewed Amy Idaho. So are are you talking about Dr. Jay and E.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yes, yes, okay, like, yeah, yeah, they gave you provision. So like, yeah, cause IIII play with her that little cute as Puerto Rican dynamite. And I was like, Oh, my God, II played with her twice over that weekend. Yeah.

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Jade Li: yeah, I don’t usually do that. I’m like you, hey? Usually I’m like in a buffet. I’m like, I want this woman. I want that woman, this woman. I had to go back to her twice. Sounds like shit so for, and we already like we already known elle and A/C like really good friends with them. I’ve been chatting with Lexi for quite a while. On on Twitter. So we had built up, and we exchanged numbers before Podbash, and we’re just building up that connection and vibe

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Jade Li: same thing with he and Dr. Joan. So it like

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Jade Li: it just all. And everybody was friends with everybody. So it just meshed really well, and just the

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Jade Li: it was like a well oiled moving machine on that king bed like, just like working like magic. And it yeah, it was. There was definitely bottles of lube

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Jade Li: floating around, or good old spit, you know. Good old spit is works just great for loop, too. Oh, shit! And the bed was able to support 8 people on there. Oh, well, I mean, at times people might have been standing off to the side, you know, but there was always at least 6 people on that bed.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay. Okay? Cause. I remember my first, okay, my first experience doing lifestyle stuff. Right? I went to the red rooster in Las Vegas. And I was, it was late 2016,

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Doc Chocolate BBC: just keeping up the place, and just like just slidy soak in right. And to these gorge th, there’s these 2 gorgeous ladies right? And they’re just like really feeling me. And so their husbands come over to me, and they’re like, well, hey, our ladies like on a play with you, and I was like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: well, I just kinda came to watch. But like there, you almost like, okay, yeah, put me on the spot. And like, I’ve never. This is my first experience in the lifestyle. Right? So it’s like they’re like, okay, let’s go to the room, right? So we go to the room.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And then we start and dressing. And then I see these 2 guys start addressing, and I’m like, Whoa, hey, what’s going on, you know, cause you don’t get I’m new, so I don’t know the rules of the etiquette. You know. I’m kinda thinking in my head, okay, well, am I gonna be fucking these ladies? And so I was gonna stick cause?

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Jade Li: Oh, I don’t know. Okay. So like we all got on the bed. So it’s 5 of us right, and like we broke the bit like we heard it like crack, and it broke.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and I was like, shit. And yeah, and I lasted a good 5, 6 min, and the guys were talking shit to me. They’re like, Come on, don’t, Bustin that I mean it was friendly shit, but like they’re like, oh, no, don’t, Buster Dud, you got it? You got it?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Come on, don’t bust busting nut all the muscles shit that I was like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: fuck you so anyways, this, but very memorable, and like I may have gone up there, Jay.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: totally high, and I may have walked into the indoor pool. And yeah, that

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Doc Chocolate BBC: definitely happened. And yeah, fun story fun story. So anyways, so what’s your craziest lifestyle experience?

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Jade Li: my most memorable actually was. It was one of the one of the first hot life experiences that I had. It was actually at the front port Swingers hot wife event here in Denver. We had gone to one Vegas and then

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Jade Li: They had came out here a couple months later, and it was our first one going to the hotwife event here in Denver and

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Jade Li: that II actually knew he had been already messaging me on my Ig for months and months ahead of time. But he I mean he’s obviously lifestyle. But he was more on my page as like a a fan sort of cause of like

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Jade Li: my Ig was obviously to promote. You know, my content and things of that nature. But he came off very, very aggressive, and very just

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Jade Li: rubbed me the wrong way surprisingly. And I was like he just he just. He just rubbed me the wrong way is aggressive. He’s cocky. I can’t deal with this, so I kinda cut off ties chatting with him, and then we ended up running them into at like into him at the hot life event.

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Jade Li: And it’s funny how people will have 2 different sometimes ways that they are, because through messaging DM. He was very cocky, very arrogant, very

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Jade Li: just pushy. He was so gentle, so nice

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Jade Li: totally got along with them really great, sat there, talked for a couple of hours at the event. The event was ending, and we were like, Do you want to come home with us? Well, we had an Airbnb, but we we took a back to the Airbnb with us, and I think we got back to the Airbnb about 2 30, and I don’t think we went to bed until like 6.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So just the 3 of you guys, you, Brad, did you ever tell him that? You know he almost lost his shot by his dms. You do. Okay. I was like you were super aggressive and just

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Jade Li: not what I expected in person. So I’m glad that this actually happened, because I would have blew you off. I blew you off. I had no intention of chatting with you, and I still chat with them to this day.

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Jade Li: he’s like, Oh, okay, he’s like, it’s almost like he’s so quiet in person. He like processed it. But he didn’t express how he was processing it in his head. Okay, gotcha gotcha. Well, honestly, I am glad that you told him about that, because I feel like it’s very, very important, especially for a single guys to address or communicate with the lady couples in an appropriate manner, you know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Cause I mean? Obviously, yeah, you don’t wanna be too too passive. But you don’t wanna be an asshole, either. I think it’s better if you go a little bit less than a little bit too

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Jade Li: exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Now I now I understand, and I can take the aggressiveness that he has to throw at me. Cause. Now we have that friendship. And whereas before, it was like, yeah, I just yeah. But yeah, it’s definitely important to communicate to people. It’s people have to realize that you’re not doing it to be mean, you’re just trying to let them know. And you know something that they could work on.

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Jade Li: Yeah. Yeah. And so you guys got into the lifestyle. Any of you guys are discovering yourselves along this journey. J, so you’re discovering. Oh, hey, I’m bisexual. I like girls. And then, Brad is discovering that he’s pantsexual. And how did you guys make the leap from just doing lifestyle to doing lifestyle and then also creating content.

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Jade Li: Not, major content. It was very little. It was funny how that kind of came about. I

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Jade Li: I had started doing my like on my lifestyle health and wellness journey. For myself, I wanted to lose way after

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Jade Li: you know, having kids, my body, I was at my heaviest weight that had ever been. I wasn’t happy with it. So I was like, I’m gonna start to, you know, really focus on myself. So I started to eat right workout. And so I lost like 45 pounds. And I was like I have to get rid of all my clothes.

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Jade Li: cause like I can’t fit in these. And Brad’s like, Okay, he’s like, but don’t get rid of your underwear, and I’m like.

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Jade Li: why wouldn’t I get rid of my underwear? Like everything else? I donated my underwear. I was plan on just throwing away, and he’s like you can sell those. And I was like, What are you talking about? This is not a thing he’s like. Yes, it is. And he went and showed me, and he’s like, Look.

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Jade Li: you can sell your panties that I was like. Seriously, he’s like, Yeah, I was like, okay. So we started dabbling in that before we went full force into the lifestyle. So we were kind of doing that.

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Jade Li: And then it just started. You know, one thing after another was like, oh, can you do a video call with me? Oh, can you make a video for me? And it just started growing and growing and growing. And

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Jade Li: doing our lifestyle stuff, but keeping the 2 separate. But then we’re like, Oh, you know, we can kind of combine these 2 together to.

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Jade Li: we tried it for a long time, and it really wasn’t working well, trying to combine the the content creation with the lifestyle. So we went back to just keeping them completely separate, like we have our content that we make with people. And then we have our personal play that we make with people.

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Jade Li: Now we have lots of friends that are also in the lifestyle that make content. So there’s times that we will have times with them that we film it, and there’s times with that will have with them that we don’t film it but in that, besides those 2 crossing there, we keep them pretty. We keep them pretty separate cause that we think it’s better that way than trying to make it work so much meshing together.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay? And and why is that? Because, I have my thoughts on it, obviously. But I wanna hear your thoughts so like what’s like the biggest difficulty of combining strictly lifestyle with strictly content creation. Well, I find that. So when we were trying to find people to play with.

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Jade Li: and then also say, Oh, and, by the way, can we film this? If they weren’t familiar.

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Jade Li: The nose in around a filming. It’s a lot harder than it’s use, would it, that it thinks? I mean, it’s not just, you know, whipping it out and doing your shit. There’s a lot of like angles and lights, and just there’s a lot that goes into it. And we found that people that didn’t already make content. That was familiar with the ways. We couldn’t even use the film because it was terrible.

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Jade Li: So it was like, or they just didn’t understand. And it’s just yeah, it’s yeah. So we just were like, okay, 2 separate worlds. We have a personal play. And we have our content making.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, have you tried selling some of those videos where you think that? Okay, well, maybe the lighting wasn’t the best, or maybe the angles weren’t the best, because, like what I’ve seen, and it may surprise you. But a lot of people that are consumers of especially swinger porn, they like to see the just, the natural stuff, so it doesn’t have to be all like, you know, the perfect angles, cause II know exactly what you’re talking about

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Doc Chocolate BBC: when it comes to angles. But like.

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Jade Li: oh, shit. Okay, yeah. You guys should try selling it because, I’ve done polls. And I’ve you know, done tests. And people like, yeah, so like sometimes, what I’ll do a lot of times when I’m playing with my partners is because I

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I cause, I think most content creators will say this right that are in the lifestyle. They’ll say that. Can you hear all that background noise behind me

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Doc Chocolate BBC: not really. No, okay. They’re generally downstairs, but like I

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I think most people that are content creators and their license owners like us, they’ll say that they like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: having sex playing off camera more than on camera.

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Jade Li: Just because it’s like, Okay, well, when the cameras on you feel like you gotta perform, you gotta hit the angles. You gotta do this and that. And if you’re just, you know, playing you don’t have to worry about shit. You know, you just have fun. Yeah, definitely. See that? Yeah. Well, sometimes, too, when you’re filming, there’s lots of stop and go, too, like, Oh, I need a break, or, you know, like, Oh, I gotta, you know, grab a condom or something, or you know, whereas

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Jade Li: and so you have to turn off the cameras and stop it. And so it’s like, whereas personal plate, there’s not that stop and go as much.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And and I think cause like E, even in the play session that you, me and ill had. I don’t think that there was any stop.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, yeah, we do stuff at all. Because, Brad, yeah, Brad was filming. Yeah, Brad was filming, and I think it worked out really well, because, like all 4 of us

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Doc Chocolate BBC: know what to do. And you know we know how to have fun at the same time. And you know we’re just, you know, like II think we’re having more laughs than orgasms comes off so great on camera, too. It’s like, is you? Could you could feel you could see the connection in the friendship that we all had, and it was awesome. Exactly.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Exactly. And so so yeah, cause there’s a lot of people out there. They if they’re not in concentration, they think that. You guys are just constant creators. You’re just doing it for the money. And you know, you’re not real lifestyleers. And I’m like, No, that’s like, further from the truth. It’s like we’re just people that are in the lifestyle. And we’re probably more exhibitionist.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you know, in our nature. And you know. So we would film anyways, but because of the advent of you know, things like only bands and whatnot, we can make money off of it. Why not do it. Yeah. Why not do it?

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Jade Li: Well, I think a big part like it took a big boom during Covid when

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Jade Li: everybody was home. And it’s like, Oh, let’s film this. And oh, we can do that. And yeah, so I think there. But yeah, it’s like, why not? You love doing it? It’s like you love your job. Why, you know we’re lucky enough that we get to love our job and make money at what we do versus. Not

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Doc Chocolate BBC: exactly, exactly, and I will. I was taking videos personally before I got into all this. Honestly, I got videos from like back in 2017 2018. I wanna say, you know, some of them are kind of hot. So so, and when you start selling your panties like, what sites did you go through to sell your panties.

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Jade Li: At the time it was sniffer, and all things worn were the 2 main sites that I used.

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Jade Li: Now I don’t. I’m not on those sites. It’s in my menu on like my platforms that I sell it. I don’t do as many more as many like panties and things of that nature. But I still have a couple of people that reach out that that wanna.

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Jade Li: So when I started, it was snipper and all things worn.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay? And then you’re on like a bunch of different platforms. So you’re on only fans and fansly loyal fans, porn hub and all that. What do you. Are you doing this like full time or part time? Full time? Well, I’m a I’m a full time, mom, and then full time content. Creator. So yes, it’s a nonstop.

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Jade Li: I don’t. I don’t know how I get it done. Well, I know how I get done. Brad helps me a lot. He runs part of my pages. I’ve run the other parts. You know. So we do it as a team. But yeah, it’s full time for me.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay, great, great. And tell me, cause you go by. You’re obviously a hot wife. But but tell us about goddess. So like, what’s the difference between goddess versus hot wife.

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Jade Li: So we first went with Goddess because so like, I said, we actually came up with that before we were fully into the hot wife scene. So that’s how we first came up with the goddess part, like, you know.

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Jade Li: you know, to be worshipped, and to to be that figure that just.

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Jade Li: It’s perfect, I guess, so to speak, even though there’s perfect in the minds of everybody, is different which I love. So that’s why we went with the goddess part of it. And then, as I started to venture more into the hot life scene, we kind of started transitioning to the hot, wise name more than the goddess name. But we don’t want to go and change names on platforms

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Jade Li: that have been established. So we just kind of ride with both. Okay, okay, I got you. I got you. And then one last question, because I know you’ve got places to go.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: how? How do you keep this like secret from your family, or do you or like, how do you like

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Jade Li: Nope? So, Nope, they’re eventually gonna find out. So you might as well be the person that tells them.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay? Cause I mean, like, so like, my immediate family knows the family members. I wanted to know. I didn’t want them to go and discover me sometime. I told

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Doc Chocolate BBC: if there’s other family members that I don’t give to shits, if they know that’s fair enough. That’s fair enough. So alright. So we’re going to end this. But before we end this I want you, Jay, to give out your platforms again, because this is

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Doc Chocolate BBC: beautiful, gorgeous woman, and I know I say this with probably every woman I get on here. But is it just so happens that all the women that I connect with. They’re all beautiful and gorgeous, but like she is

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Doc Chocolate BBC: absolutely yummy. And III tell you all that from the experience. She is yummy, she said on my face for about 5, 10 min. So she yeah, III definitely speak from experience. She’s definitely so. Tell us tell us your platforms again and your website. And then I also want you to give a key piece of advice to

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let’s say a couple that’s listening to this podcast that wants to jump into lifestyle. Or maybe they’re in lifestyle. But they wanna jump into doing content. And then we’ll

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Jade Li: in this podcast so okay. Okay, honestly, there’s so many platforms I’m on. It’s either

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Jade Li: hot wife, jade, Lee, or Goddess Jade Lee. if you go to my site it’s jade, Lee. So JADE. Li. Coco everything is on there. It’s all in one place. But like I’m only fans. I’m Hotwife jade, Lee, and I’m got Goddess Jade Lee.

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Jade Li: Minivids! I’m got it. Jade, Lee twitter. I’m Hotwife jade Lee. So it’s just hard to remember all the different ones. This is easiest if you go to Jade Co. Page.

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Jade Li: Thank you. We actually just redid it. Oh, nice, nice. Nice. Okay. II like it. Somebody got that Jayleecom? Huh?

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Jade Li: No, it’s available. We went with the.co. Before, because we wanted it to, not when trying to promote it on places of like tick tock. We didn’t want it to look like a.com. So that’s why we went.co.

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Jade Li: And I think now maybe it is not available anymore, like the dotcom or is it? Maybe it isn’t just super super expensive to own. I can’t remember.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, that’s probably what it is. Somebody probably like is like squatting on it. And they’re like, Oh, yeah, you can get have Jlycom for

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Jade Li: $3,000 there, a couple

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Doc Chocolate BBC: thinking about jumping into the lifestyle.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and or they’re in the lifestyle, but they are thinking of getting into contents.

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Jade Li: Yes, I mean for the lifestyle, the biggest thing that I always say is just communication.

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Jade Li: It it’s so simple, but so many people don’t know how to communicate properly. I tell people, Mike, you need to talk, and you need to talk. And then, when you think you’re done talking, you need to talk some more like there should never be a point in time, whether you’re not having an open conversation about anything and everything. So whether that’s just starting off in your life, not even to do with lifestyle, just with everything going on in your life.

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Jade Li: having that open communication, knowing that you can trust your partner to bring anything to your partner and not be judged that they’re gonna be empathetic and sympathetic towards how you feel. So that’s the biggest piece of advice I have is open communication, and your partner is always number one. Never put anything else above your partner, and those are the 2 biggest things I would say for advice, for getting into the lifestyle

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Jade Li: for starting content.

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Jade Li: I would say that. It’s a process. It’s one of those things that you get out what you put in. So you know, you’re gonna only give it 50. Then you’re only gonna get 50 back. If that

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Jade Li: it takes time. There’s no

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Jade Li: oh, I’m gonna do this for a couple of months that I’m gonna be, you know, rolling in the bit, you know. Money. It’s it’s a process. It’s a roller coaster ride. It’s an up, and it’s a down, and also what works for somebody might not work for you. So you have to play around with things and see what works for you. And then hopefully, you find it and you can roll with it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I love it. I love it. So that was like, why? Stage advice? Because, yeah, obviously, what works for me as a black male

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Doc Chocolate BBC: content Creator is gonna be way different than what works with you as the beautiful Asian female Creator. So III love that piece of advice. Jade. So so this has been the beautiful goddess, Jade Lee, and you can find her@jadelee.ceo, and if you own jade lead Dot.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and you’re selling it for $3,000, we hate you. No, we don’t but kick rocks, and

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Doc Chocolate BBC: yeah, very, very shitty, but I love. I love your business game, though so like that shit for excessive amounts of money. And Doc, chocolate. BBC, you guys can find me at bulls and queens.com, and then you can find my spicier stuff at Doc Chocolate, bbc.com. And so until next time, you guys, bulls and queens nation. Y’all stay sexy. You all be blessed.

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You guys support each other, make love and not war, and stay warm outside. If it’s like super super cold, so

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Jade Li: have a nice day. Bye, bye.