142 | Shared Utah Wife Marie & James on the Hotwife Lifestyle!

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So for free access to my only fans for a limited time only, you guys, I want you to go to Bulls and queens.com, click that link that says OnlyFans and join the fan club. Click. I'll see you on the other side. Now back to this spicy episode. [00:01:40] Speaker B: You are now listening to the Bulls and Queens podcast where we have sexy fun, exploring the lifestyle and swinging exploits of black bulls, queens of spades, cuckold fantasies, open relationships, seductive interracial encounters and other kinky shenanigans that are sure to get you off in a very good way. So get ready ladies, and make sure you take notes, gentlemen, because here is your host, that super sexy bald black man candy, Doc Chocolate. [00:02:48] Speaker A: What's up? What's up everybody? It is Doc Chocolate of the Bulls and Queens lifestyle podcast and I am coming at you with another awesome and episode where we talk to swingers, lifestyle people, content creators. The person that we're talking to is not a content creator, although she should be. But more about that later on. But before we get started, ladies and gents, if you could go ahead and go to whatever platform you're listening to this on, whether it's Apple, Spotify or anything else. Go ahead, leave a brother a five star review. If you want to leave me a one star review, please kindly and very, very in a friendly manner, kick rocks. And then also make sure you join and look@doc chocolatebands.com where you can see my lifestyle adventures that I have with wives, sisters, Adult daughters, grandmothers, aunts, and anything else. Am I missing anything, Charlie? [00:03:46] Speaker C: No, you got me with adult daughter, so you're good. [00:03:49] Speaker A: I have to say adult daughters because if I just say daughters, people are going to be like, that's creepy. You. Yeah, creepy you. [00:03:55] Speaker D: You. [00:03:55] Speaker A: You nasty son of a. Yeah, adult daughters. Adult daughters. I'll stop while I'm a hit. So, without further ado, actually, co host, say hi. And you guys may have heard her sniffles and her clearing her throats. She's a little bit allergic to everything. She's allergic to me. She's allergic to chocolates. [00:04:22] Speaker C: Yeah. No, no, no. [00:04:25] Speaker A: Ouch. [00:04:25] Speaker C: Everything but I'm Fun Charlie. [00:04:28] Speaker A: Oh, Fun Charlie. Yes. Go ahead and give her a hand. Yeah. All right. So how do people reach you, fun Charlie? [00:04:44] Speaker C: Funcharli.com. [00:04:45] Speaker A: All right. Funcharli.com. [00:04:47] Speaker D: Boom. [00:04:47] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Funcharli.com. [00:04:49] Speaker A: All Right. [00:04:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:50] Speaker A: So, without further ado, we are going to introduce the couple that we are interviewing today. So the couple that we're interviewing today, they come from the great state of Utah. So the wife, she is a wife, obviously, and she is a mother. She is sexually empowered. She's a hot wife, a cacodress, and a swinger. She loves swinging from things, preferably the things that are big, long, thick, and black. She's married to her amazing husband who's sitting to the left of her right now. Husband. What's up? What's up? [00:05:31] Speaker D: Hey. [00:05:32] Speaker A: She is a content creator. Soon. Question mark. Question mark. Question mark. I think she should be a content creator, but again, I feel like it's coming. I think that she should be coming, and I should be coming. You should be coming in multiple arenas. We should all just be coming. [00:05:49] Speaker E: Yes. [00:05:50] Speaker A: World will be such a better place if everybody just come, right? Come, come, come. Shots. Really? Like sex. Yes, she does. She's a hot wife. QoS size queen. She goes on X labeled as shared Utah wife. Her name for podcast purposes is Marie, and her awesome husband's name for podcast purposes is James. How are you guys doing? [00:06:20] Speaker D: Marie and James doing great. Hello. [00:06:23] Speaker E: Hey, Charlie. [00:06:24] Speaker D: Hi. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Hey. So you guys are our neighbors up north? [00:06:31] Speaker E: Yes. [00:06:32] Speaker A: Oh, my. [00:06:33] Speaker E: Frequent visitors to your hometown. [00:06:36] Speaker A: Yeah, like, we were supposed to meet up and have some extracurricular activities last year, and that fell slat flat, and I was crying, I was sad, and I. Yeah. [00:06:49] Speaker D: So definitely learned to ask for an actual address versus just the name of a place. [00:06:58] Speaker C: There we go. [00:06:59] Speaker A: So. So what happened, guys, is there was a certain eatery that we're supposed to meet up At. And there's two locations in Las Vegas, but they're on the same street, so. So when Marie told me it was at one location, I went to the other location, which was about eight miles away, and nobody was there. And I looked crazy because I was like, it's a girl with purple hair. She has purple hair. They thought I was crazy. [00:07:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:27] Speaker A: Hard to miss. They look at me like I was crazy. And then I called her, and then she. We. We found out that you were at the other place, and then there was some, like, accident on the interstate, and it took me like, a million years to get there. So. But anyways, yeah, so that's what happened. That's my story, and I'm not changing it. All right. And James, he has on an awesome shirt. I was going to say it's a Hawaiian shirt, but a paisley. [00:07:56] Speaker E: Fun paisley tonight. Like, my hot wife dresses me, picks out my outfits. [00:08:00] Speaker D: Yes. [00:08:01] Speaker C: Guys, you coordinated very well. Yes. Like a hint of pink. She's wearing pink. It's beautiful. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Yes. [00:08:09] Speaker C: The club, you'd be like, all right past one, you get check. [00:08:14] Speaker E: Yes, this is. This is one of my Vegas shirts. [00:08:17] Speaker C: Yes, yes. [00:08:19] Speaker A: All right, so guys, tell everybody how you got started in the lifestyle. And before you guys answer that again, ladies and gents, make sure that you go to Twitter or X, formerly known as Twitter and search at shared Utah Wife in Utah is spelled out. So tell us your original story, guys. [00:08:44] Speaker D: All right, so 13ish years ago brought up the idea to have me have some experiences because he was my second partner ever. And it was not brought up in the best of ways, but I could have done better. [00:09:05] Speaker A: Oh. [00:09:07] Speaker D: So again, so having him only being my second partner was raised very religious, and it was, hey, I want to have you experience this to have other partners. And it was like, why would you want that? Because I was raised that, you know, you have sex with the person that you love, which is your spouse. And so to me, it was sex equals love. And so if that's what you want me to do, why are you wanting to, like, push me to love somebody else? And he's like, no, no, no, that's not what I want. So anyways, fast. Fast forward. [00:09:49] Speaker E: First, before fast forward, she cried for a week. [00:09:55] Speaker A: You made the woman cry for a week. For a week. [00:09:59] Speaker E: So, you know, if anybody takes anything from this is, if you're going to approach this lifestyle, do it properly. Don't just blurt it out. [00:10:09] Speaker A: How did you say it, James? [00:10:11] Speaker E: Yeah, basically, you know, I. I did come across kind of a hot wife. You know, looking for amateur porn because she says, I hate professional porn. I'm not going to watch that. And so I said, we'll find some amateur stuff. This hot wife came up, and I said, hey, you should be a hot wife. You should try. And Ian, look like I slapped her and wanted to divorce her. Just disaster. So since then, I've learned. And there's. I'm sure there's many, many places you can go learn the proper way to introduce the idea. That's not one of them. So she did take a couple months to think it over. [00:10:51] Speaker C: Yep. [00:10:52] Speaker D: And then I kind of talked about it, like, in fantasy, which, again, that was completely new for me because I didn't ever fantasize. And so then when I brought it up, and. And then afterwards, he's like, so are you serious? And I was like, no, that was just for fantasy. And he's like, what the hell? Then a couple more months go by. [00:11:14] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:11:15] Speaker D: And he's like, what do you think if I were to do a profile? Yeah, Like a profile and try to find somebody? And I'm like, okay, sure. We're in Utah. Sure. [00:11:29] Speaker E: So tell me about your laundry list. [00:11:31] Speaker D: So, yes, I had a laundry list. I was like, all right, I'm going to. I'm going to do this right. [00:11:35] Speaker A: So I said, you have a laundry list. And you, like, had never thought about this before. [00:11:41] Speaker D: Well, okay. Because now it's been months, so. [00:11:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:11:44] Speaker D: I had time to compile this. [00:11:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:46] Speaker D: Yes. So. [00:11:47] Speaker E: And picture a fantasy guy. [00:11:49] Speaker D: So I had my celebrity crush. [00:11:51] Speaker C: Okay. [00:11:51] Speaker D: And so I'm like, okay, so here you go. He needs to look like Shemar Moore. He needs to be 5, 10, or higher. He needs to be fit. This, this, this. And I just have eligible. [00:12:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:09] Speaker E: Personality available. Single. [00:12:12] Speaker D: Yeah, everything. Because I'm like, there's no way that anybody is going to fit this. Except maybe Shemar Moore. [00:12:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:20] Speaker D: So he creates this profile and then tells me that, like, it. Obviously it wasn't the first person, but somebody responds and just intelligent conversation. There was like, four paragraphs. [00:12:37] Speaker E: No dick pics. [00:12:38] Speaker C: Yes. [00:12:38] Speaker D: Wow. [00:12:39] Speaker A: I like that. Guys, make sure you don't send dick pics. [00:12:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:44] Speaker A: You've already struck out. [00:12:45] Speaker C: Unless we ask only one. [00:12:47] Speaker E: And if you're not sure if they ask. They haven't. [00:12:49] Speaker C: They haven't. Exactly. [00:12:51] Speaker A: There you go. [00:12:51] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Listen to James. [00:12:53] Speaker C: Yes. [00:12:53] Speaker D: I. I don't understand why that's so. [00:12:55] Speaker C: Hard, but don't either. Don't either. [00:12:57] Speaker D: So he was literally the first one that there's a response with a chest picture. I Think maybe one included like a. [00:13:06] Speaker A: Spot Smile since you won. [00:13:09] Speaker D: What was that? [00:13:10] Speaker A: Jamar sent you? [00:13:11] Speaker E: No, the Shamar lookalike did. [00:13:14] Speaker D: Believe me, if Shemar did, I would not be in Utah anymore right now. [00:13:17] Speaker C: Kidding. [00:13:20] Speaker D: But so he's, he shows me this, this profile and this response and I'm like, you made this up? And he's like, I didn't. [00:13:30] Speaker E: He's like, well then you make, you paid someone to make this? [00:13:32] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:13:33] Speaker D: Like I'm totally not even thinking this is an actual person. I'm like, this is so end up like chatting with him and to not make this like a three hour podcast. It was an amazing first experience which led to us having such success because we hit it off. He was great. He was experienced with the lifestyle. So that very first experience, I was like, well, he's going to be there because I've never done this. And so we, yeah, had an amazing time. [00:14:11] Speaker E: So, yeah, so we talked about, you know, tip number one, be careful how you approach the lifestyle. Tip number two, no dick dicks unless ass. Tip number three is find the perfect bowl for the first time. [00:14:23] Speaker C: You are the second couple in a few months that we have talked to that started out with like an exceptional person and has like now your bar is set high and you're not going to fall for any crap. So that's good. Yeah. [00:14:38] Speaker A: So because this isn't a PG podcast, we want to hear more about the amazing time. We need you to expound on that. [00:14:49] Speaker D: So I had. That was my, my first threesome. [00:14:55] Speaker E: Well, let's start. [00:14:57] Speaker A: Your first threesome was with Shemar. Hey there, cucks. Stags and ladies, do you want to meet up with me Da Chocolate and have a sexy experience of your life for your hot wife. 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[00:16:23] Speaker E: So it started off we were at a bar having drinks with them. He said, you want to go back to my place? And she's all giddy, of course. So we, yeah, we need to get our car though, you know, because our car was back at the hotel room we'd got. I go in to get the keys, I come out, he's already tongue down her throat, fingering her to orgasm. And. Oh, that was one of those things. We had rules. [00:16:48] Speaker A: Okay. [00:16:48] Speaker E: Rule number one was from Pretty Woman, which is no kissing. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Oh, that rule went down the drain. [00:16:56] Speaker C: Oh my God. [00:16:57] Speaker D: Now that was my role and I don't know what I was thinking because I'm Latin. So, you know, we're passionate. I'm like, why did I put that on there? So, yeah, yeah, that was, that was gone. [00:17:08] Speaker E: We've broken lots of rules over the years. [00:17:12] Speaker C: Yes. [00:17:13] Speaker E: Yeah. So I'm like, she has to come with me because if I leave her with you, I'm gonna miss the whole thing. On the drive over was only about a 10 minute drive to his place. She was wetter than I think I've ever come across. She was ready to go. [00:17:30] Speaker C: Nice. [00:17:31] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:17:32] Speaker E: He was a gentleman. When we got there, you know, you need something to drink? They started playing. I kind of just let them do their thing. [00:17:41] Speaker D: Yeah. Took amazing pictures. I mean, he had me like up in the air. I was like, oh, wow. Totally not expecting writing. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Paint us a picture of up in the air. Like. [00:17:57] Speaker D: So, like legs wrapped. [00:17:59] Speaker E: You have shed. Her legs wrapped around his waist and yes, he was inside her and she. [00:18:04] Speaker D: Bouncing up and down and was just kind of picking me up. [00:18:08] Speaker E: Yeah. Her arms around his neck and legs around his waist and. [00:18:13] Speaker D: Yes. [00:18:15] Speaker C: Yes. [00:18:15] Speaker A: That's hot. [00:18:17] Speaker C: It's very hot. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Why isn't she a content creator? [00:18:22] Speaker C: We got 30 to 40 minutes. [00:18:25] Speaker D: And you know, the thing is like, this was 13. [00:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:29] Speaker E: Just over 12 years ago. Yeah, we proposed it 13 years ago. It took like six or seven months to get to it. [00:18:36] Speaker D: Yeah. Okay, so 12 years ago. And yet I can look back at those pictures and I'm like, wow. It's like it was last week. [00:18:44] Speaker C: That's awesome. [00:18:45] Speaker E: Yeah, good. And one of my favorite things though was so he was laying on his back on this couch. She kind of crawled up and lowered herself down. Watching her face the first time she slid down a new. Just her eyes rolled in the back of her head. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Oh, she. [00:19:05] Speaker E: She was hooked. [00:19:06] Speaker A: That. [00:19:06] Speaker E: That is the moment. She's like, this is for me. [00:19:09] Speaker C: Oh, my God, that's so hot. I mean, you get to have your favorite person watching you and being into it too. I mean, that's. [00:19:15] Speaker A: That's hot. [00:19:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, I love that. [00:19:18] Speaker E: And another good thing about. He kept me included. You know, he, you know, he's like, I was sitting in a chair. He had her kind of crawl up and start giving me a blow job while he did her from behind. That's the first threesome pick I have of. [00:19:34] Speaker C: Yeah, that's awesome. [00:19:36] Speaker E: Oh, it was great. It was a great night. [00:19:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:39] Speaker D: Phenomenal. [00:19:40] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. [00:19:42] Speaker C: So, okay. I love that. That's freaking awesome. I love that you had a great first time. Because there are couples that have horrible, you know, it's just like they have to keep trying. And then I love that some of them are persistent and get to keep, you know, stay in it until they find somebody good. If you don't mind me asking, what has. What it. [00:20:04] Speaker D: How. [00:20:05] Speaker C: What was your dynamic to begin with and how has it changed and what do you guys consider yourselves now? [00:20:13] Speaker D: So started out, I guess we stagnate. [00:20:17] Speaker E: Yeah, you probably call it, you know, I guess, best descriptor yet. Everybody has a little different definition. [00:20:20] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:20:21] Speaker A: But I think stag Vic's going to. [00:20:22] Speaker E: Be the best one. Where we would do a lot of threesomes or, you know, I was there. She'd rarely go solo. [00:20:31] Speaker D: And then it slowly, like, the more frequent. It was getting difficult to try to get sitters and coordinate schedules. And that's where he's like, well, let's maybe try to send you off, you know, try to like, make sure you set up cameras, videos, blah, blah, blah. So then did a lot of solo dates, tried swinging. And I would still say, like, it's still one of those. It's just, it's really hard to get all those personalities and dynamics. And so that one has been one of those that we haven't quite gotten yet. So. [00:21:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And. [00:21:12] Speaker E: And this is who I'm sitting next to. I'm not gonna trade her. I kind of like, this is my Maserati. I'm not gonna trade. [00:21:21] Speaker A: You don't want to trade your Maserati for a hooptie. [00:21:28] Speaker E: So it's, it's. I, you know, I get real picky and a middle aged white guy, overweight isn't the top of the pecking order in the lifestyle. [00:21:37] Speaker C: Oh, so Even in the most ideal conditions, it's still in so hard. It's. [00:21:46] Speaker A: It. [00:21:47] Speaker C: It does. Yeah. [00:21:48] Speaker E: And we've had some really good meetings. [00:21:51] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:21:51] Speaker E: That we've, you know, a couple times we've played and other times we've actually are. Are best friends in our lifestyle. We met to play with them. We've never played. They've just become our best friends. [00:22:03] Speaker C: Right. Yeah. [00:22:03] Speaker E: That we can't play with now. [00:22:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:05] Speaker D: Because now it's like, you don't want to lose them. Yeah. Well, and. And we kind of see each other as almost that, like, sibling. That, like, protective sibling kind of relationship. So, you know, they'll. They've seen me completely naked and everything, and it's totally fine, but we just don't do anything together. That's awesome. But, yeah, Then kind of going into. Yeah. So that's like, where we've gone to. And then where we're at is like. I would still say like, hot wife couple, but I am exploring. [00:22:42] Speaker A: Exploring. What does that mean, Marie? What are you exploring? [00:22:46] Speaker D: It. It means that I'm trying to some things out. [00:22:50] Speaker A: Why? [00:22:53] Speaker D: No, but exploring with, like, with cuckolding and denial, we've. We've had some fun with. With denial. [00:23:02] Speaker E: She's had a lot more fun. [00:23:06] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:23:07] Speaker D: I'm like, one of us has had fun, but yeah, nothing. Nothing demeaning with it again. It's. It's more the denial aspect. And there. There have been several times that everything's been going great, and then there's just been some kind of roadblock, a bump. And I'm like, nope. I'm like, we need. We need to take break. Let's have, you know, connect. And whether it's. Whether there's a cage involved or not, it's like, okay, let's just completely take a break from that. And I just. I. We need to have us for a bit. And so that's why it's one of those, like, ever evolving. [00:23:47] Speaker A: So. [00:23:47] Speaker C: Yes. [00:23:47] Speaker D: Yeah, that's the current. [00:23:49] Speaker E: It. It started with her saying, well, I want to keep the fresh for my date tomorrow, so no touchy tonight. [00:23:56] Speaker C: Oh, my God. Oh, God. [00:23:59] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah, well, you know. Yeah. Fresh and ready, baby. [00:24:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:08] Speaker A: What else have you been exploring? Like, I feel like you're Christopher Columbus or groups. [00:24:20] Speaker D: Yeah, well, Splash definitely introduced me to that. [00:24:25] Speaker E: The group at the down in Vegas, though, too. And one here. [00:24:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:30] Speaker D: But that was, I guess, a little kind of planned, kind of impromptu, but I. I honestly had no idea what I was getting into with Splash. Like, I was prepared to have A good time, but also, like, I don't know. [00:24:46] Speaker A: Okay, so Maria and James, for the people that may not know what splash is, please give them a little synopsis on what splash mocha is. [00:24:58] Speaker D: Splash mocha is. Oh, goodness. I'm just like a fountain of chocolate that you just want to jump into. [00:25:07] Speaker E: All you can eat chocolate. [00:25:13] Speaker A: Hey, y'. All. Okay, so coming from a dark skinned man, you see how she started with shamar. He started with the butterscotch and she delved down into the chocolate. I'm just throwing that in there, but go ahead. [00:25:24] Speaker C: Oh, my goodness. [00:25:27] Speaker E: It's a hotel takeover. So it's all lifestyle people. You get to be as open as you want. All levels of people. There's newbies there to people who've been to 13 or 20 of them. Everybody was really, really nice and welcoming. [00:25:44] Speaker D: So couples, singles. The. The singles are. Yeah, thank you. You know, etiquette classes. So they're not just like groping all over you. And it just. It just was like such a freeing time is. Is like the best way to describe it. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. All right, that's your synopsis. Like, I mean, Charlie, what do you think? Because. [00:26:13] Speaker C: No, I agree. I. Up until I went to my first last November, I had only been to. I. I had done Quite a few MFMs and then. But mostly swinger stuff at secrets and clubs like that. And then. But again, whether I'm a unicorn or if we're playing as a couple, it's still insanely hard to have that four way thing. And if we go to an event and it's just a normal swinger event, he's gonna have way more like, availability. I would say 80 to 90% of the ladies are usually very attractive. And the guys not as and sir non included. But. Okay, so you have put effort in. So the guys I am talking about are not putting effort in. They're wearing their Crocs. They're wearing their utility shorts. Their. Whatever they came into. They woke up and didn't even shower that day. You know what I mean? They're not even crying and it's so frustrating. But also personalities. So mocha is my playground while normal stuff is his playground. Because we do play separately when. When we're at different events. So. Yes. So mocha was my thing and I was just like, I'm gonna. Yes. And. And the. [00:27:45] Speaker A: I love playing with you. [00:27:47] Speaker C: I know. And I love playing with you. And we got to play as a couple at that mocha too, because we're like coming as two single people that are Functioning and playing with everything individually. [00:27:57] Speaker A: And then we would join forces like you've been. [00:28:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:01] Speaker A: When evil came across the planet. And we would just. [00:28:04] Speaker E: Wonder Twin powers. Activate, man. [00:28:06] Speaker A: Wonder Twin powers. [00:28:08] Speaker C: But, yes, my. Even as much as my confidence had grown in the swinger community, the one weekend at moca, I was like. For some reason, I don't know what it was. It was just like, okay, you're you, you, you, and I want all of you. And now you and you, you know, and you're just like, boom, boom, boom. Yes. And it's. You're like a kid in the candy store, and you're. You feel so empowered, and you're just like, yeah, it's. [00:28:36] Speaker E: She was at the buffet line. She seriously was at the buffet line. [00:28:39] Speaker C: Yes. [00:28:39] Speaker E: I'll have a little bit of that one. A little bit of that one. I want two helpings of that one. [00:28:44] Speaker C: There is not enough time in the day for enough. All the guys that you want to experience. Yes. [00:28:51] Speaker E: What they didn't warn me about is her secretary. How stressful that is, trying to schedule all these guys. And then, like, you need to leave. I've got the next one coming in 15 minutes. [00:29:03] Speaker C: We got. Yeah, she's got a shower and get ready for the next one. [00:29:06] Speaker A: Exactly. Okay. So I had to ask you this because I've been to two Splash Mochas. Both Two of them were in Houston. And are you guys going to Houston Splash Mochas? Yes. Yes. [00:29:22] Speaker C: While you were in the restroom, we talked about that. [00:29:24] Speaker D: Yes, it's gonna happen. [00:29:26] Speaker A: Hey, I'm zero in for the girl with the purple hair. Damn it. [00:29:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:31] Speaker A: All right. So anyways, sorry, I. And you guys let me know there was some difficulty, you know, scheduling times, because it's like, yeah, you feel very strict and constrained. So how do you guys feel about, like, setting up, like, exact precise times? Like, hey, I'll meet you at 6pm in room 323. [00:29:56] Speaker C: I. [00:29:57] Speaker D: That's kind of what we had to do, though. [00:29:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:00] Speaker D: Because, you know, we'd have to give a window that. 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[00:32:22] Speaker E: You know, Charlie, I'll try to be your secretary too, in Houston. I don't know if I can handle two of you though. We'll see. [00:32:27] Speaker C: So much work. [00:32:28] Speaker A: Honestly, I, okay, so, like, you think I'm joking, but I think that will be an awesome idea. I think you guys should exchange information. [00:32:37] Speaker C: And seriously on him. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Oh, I'd be happy to help out. [00:32:41] Speaker C: I, I, but okay, so as for someone who likes actual organic, spontaneous situations, that is very difficult for me. So I'm like, it, it's, it goes against all my nature to make appointments for Dick. So I'm just like, it, it's a lot. It's a lot. And even so in there I can, there are multiple situations that I'm like, I wish I would have like, been able to, to experience him like later in the night when I was like, you know, and yeah, that's the only downfall. It's like, you do have to schedule and if you're not very good at the timed intervals. Yeah. [00:33:20] Speaker D: And I did learn that you almost need to kind of start off with that the first day, like, you need to hit it strong because then you need to be able to do. Get your repeats that you're like, no, I want, like, two, three, and four helpings of you. And there's only a certain amount of hours. [00:33:38] Speaker C: You are a trooper. I haven't even thought about repeats. I'm just trying to do my soul. [00:33:43] Speaker A: I'm. I'm not going to lie. I tried to schedule my 18th for the first day. [00:33:48] Speaker C: Oh, really? [00:33:49] Speaker A: I tried to. [00:33:50] Speaker C: All right. [00:33:50] Speaker A: And then my B team afterwards. [00:33:53] Speaker C: I'm gonna do better this time, okay? [00:33:56] Speaker D: So just know that now I'm gonna know when you schedule my time. [00:34:01] Speaker C: See, now you screwed yourself. [00:34:03] Speaker A: You. You're going to be the first person I. At Splash Mocha. Houston, what day are you getting in? All right, I'm gonna get in her. [00:34:12] Speaker E: We're coming on Wednesday, so, you know. [00:34:14] Speaker A: Oh, you guys are coming in a day early. [00:34:16] Speaker C: When are you. Oh, we could come a day early. [00:34:18] Speaker A: I'll come with this. [00:34:19] Speaker C: I'll do a day early just to do a day. Yeah. [00:34:23] Speaker D: Get it all in. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah, like this, like this, like this, like that. You ain't getting me on Saturday. I. Your goddamn b. [00:34:31] Speaker E: La. [00:34:36] Speaker D: Serious. [00:34:37] Speaker C: The other thing, now everybody's gonna be suspicious that heard this. [00:34:42] Speaker A: Okay? So, like, the thing is, okay, even though there are some people on my A list. Yeah, I may be on their B list. [00:34:48] Speaker C: That's for sure. [00:34:49] Speaker A: I may be on their C list, so they may, like, try and push me back some. Right? Which is totally fine. But the thing is, because that happened a couple times, like, like, oh, yeah, I could get with you, you know, tomorrow. Hey, tomorrow, you. You're probably not gonna be able to find me. You better get with this premium USDA African beef when you can. [00:35:10] Speaker E: The ladies are gonna eat you up early. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Well, I may. I. I may eat them out before they eat me up. [00:35:19] Speaker E: The other struggle I had with. With scheduling is that some people wanted 20 minutes, some people wanted an hour. [00:35:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:26] Speaker E: I'm like, well, which one are you? [00:35:29] Speaker A: Okay, so, like, my. My two cents in that James is. That's greedy. Because the thing is, okay, at hotel takeover, you. You don't fuck somebody for an hour. Like, no, that's not the time to do an hour. No, we don't do that. You have to save yourself. Like, I feel like 25 to 30 minutes max. [00:35:48] Speaker C: Who. [00:35:49] Speaker A: You should be out of there, you know? [00:35:51] Speaker C: I. [00:35:52] Speaker A: What. [00:35:53] Speaker C: I'm doing it way wrong. [00:35:54] Speaker A: Oh, how are you doing? [00:35:55] Speaker C: I need to. I need to be way more efficient with my. [00:36:00] Speaker A: That's why. That's why James wanted to be your sex criterion. Yes. [00:36:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. I'm gonna have to really think. I'm serious. [00:36:09] Speaker A: I'm like, what were you doing? Like, she was making love to them. She was making love to them. She's like. She's like, let's make love to me. [00:36:16] Speaker C: I like to like, you know, but this is all like, boom, boom, boom. I just gotta have to. Getting a different head. [00:36:21] Speaker A: Yes. And guys that. That are up there, like, don't bust a nut every single time. [00:36:27] Speaker C: And ladies don't expect nuts because you're. [00:36:30] Speaker E: That was another thing. [00:36:31] Speaker C: You're not. They're not going to nut until the end of the night. Most. Most. Now, there are some exceptions. There are some exceptions, but they are taught that. [00:36:43] Speaker E: They're actually taught in their little thing. They're taught, don't blow your load all in one day. [00:36:48] Speaker C: Yeah. No, if you especially. And there are a lot of content creators that go to splash. And so they are. They're. We're very professional and they will not listen to the very end of the night. [00:36:59] Speaker A: You're not thinking about that. I know how to change positions. [00:37:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:01] Speaker A: I know how to reset myself. [00:37:02] Speaker C: Telling me, I have tried. Okay. [00:37:04] Speaker D: See, that was the thing that I was not prepared for, though, because I have prided myself on a particular position that I'm not going to give away. And then when it wouldn't happen, I was like, what the. [00:37:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:20] Speaker D: I'm like, I know I'm better than this, right? [00:37:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:23] Speaker D: And I had a particular person that challenged me and was like, it's been this many times. And you didn't get. I was like, oh, hell no. [00:37:33] Speaker E: I was like, I did not go there. [00:37:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:36] Speaker E: So at the end of the end of splash, use 1 for 8 at the end of splash with him. So. [00:37:42] Speaker C: Nice. [00:37:43] Speaker A: Yeah, well. [00:37:44] Speaker D: And. [00:37:45] Speaker E: And actually, we actually stole from one of your shows way back, Doc. I don't know, years ago. When you talk stealing souls, a girl stealing your soul. That's when we started calling it. You know, she's like, oh, she's gonna get there and steal a soul. [00:37:59] Speaker C: Oh, goodness. [00:38:02] Speaker A: So many souls. Poor unfortunate souls. [00:38:09] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:38:09] Speaker A: Oh, man, I love it. I love it. So, okay, so. So you went to your splash mocha, and I heard around the water cooler, around. Around the grapevine that you were voted the rookie of the year. [00:38:26] Speaker C: Nice. How do you get that? [00:38:30] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:38:31] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:38:32] Speaker A: That was the first time I ever heard that. This is the arm Hawaii. Oh, right here. [00:38:37] Speaker C: Is that body count? [00:38:39] Speaker A: No. Okay, she had eight confirmed kills. [00:38:41] Speaker C: Okay. [00:38:42] Speaker A: She made eight come. [00:38:44] Speaker E: No, no, that was one guy eight times. [00:38:47] Speaker D: Oh, eight times, but only one cup. [00:38:51] Speaker A: Oh, you. One for eight times or a Splash mocha? That's a lot, huh? She's addictive. How many. Okay, how many times total times did you play with, like, how many guys? Like, you're. [00:39:07] Speaker D: At Splash. [00:39:08] Speaker E: Yeah, I can tell you what it is. [00:39:11] Speaker D: I was like, you know, I have a list because I've. [00:39:15] Speaker E: She keeps a list of everybody. So we know Exactly. It was 19 guys. [00:39:20] Speaker A: Okay, that's very good. [00:39:22] Speaker E: 30 encounters. [00:39:25] Speaker A: Wait. [00:39:27] Speaker C: An encounter. What is a guy. [00:39:30] Speaker E: A different guy. So 19 different guys. [00:39:34] Speaker A: 30 different. Well, that's a lot. [00:39:39] Speaker C: Couple doubled up lot. [00:39:40] Speaker A: Yes, that's a lot because. No, because she had the one guy eight times. [00:39:43] Speaker C: Okay, okay, okay. [00:39:45] Speaker A: So 19 games. Like, if she. The guy eight times. That's 27. That's 27 encounters right there. [00:39:52] Speaker C: Thursday is a Sunday. [00:39:55] Speaker E: Yeah, we stayed actually till Monday. So she had three encounters just on Monday morning. We almost missed our plane because she had to cut two more notches in her bedpost. [00:40:08] Speaker C: I mean, you're gonna be a content creator. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You love to. You need to be making money from it. It's. It's ridiculous. [00:40:18] Speaker A: I'm just saying. Okay, so why. Okay, Ms. Charlie. [00:40:21] Speaker C: Yes. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Tell the lovely couple why you feel like Marie should be a content creator and not just based off of the fact that she put that on her bio. Content creator, question question mark. I feel like you're just throwing that out in the universe. You're like, well, I want to be a content creator, but I'm just out as a question. Yeah, yeah, but go ahead. [00:40:40] Speaker C: I mean, okay, you love to fuck. [00:40:42] Speaker D: Boom. [00:40:42] Speaker C: That's one. [00:40:43] Speaker A: That's. [00:40:43] Speaker C: That's huge. It's going to be authentic on film, which is another one. That's the huge seller. 3. Can you envision. If you make enough, can you start showing your face? Because if you can start showing your face ever. [00:41:04] Speaker A: No, you can't scare off like that. Don't talk about showing her face. You're going to scare her off. Wear a mask, blur your face. You're gonna scare her. [00:41:11] Speaker D: All talk after. [00:41:12] Speaker A: But she's scared. [00:41:15] Speaker C: Yeah, no, we're starting to reel her in. [00:41:17] Speaker A: Don't scare her off like that. But don't tell her she gotta show her face. You guys, she. Go ahead. [00:41:23] Speaker C: Okay. You can be successful as a faceless person, but the insane money that is on the table is not going to come to you, most likely, unless you show your face Graves. But, but I mean the, the first two insane huge hurdles are do you like to have sex and do you like to be taped? Like those two things are huge. And if you can throw show authenticate authentication on film, it's like, it's, it's like magic. And it's just people will come to you because they want to see you because it's real. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should think. [00:42:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. And you're a soul stealer. [00:42:05] Speaker C: And you're so steal. And you have like. Okay, you're. The amount of sex you can have in a weekend is insane. So that means you could do a ton of collabs in a collab house and you'll like really earn that test. You know what I mean? [00:42:20] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. [00:42:21] Speaker C: Like some of us are just like, you know, so I'm like, you should think about it at least, you know. [00:42:29] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I'll even allow you to steal my soul if you like. [00:42:32] Speaker C: Oh. [00:42:34] Speaker A: You know, I mean, unless it's at the end of the night. Yeah, but I mean like I. Yeah, I don't know. [00:42:40] Speaker D: If you're gonna like, you're gonna allow me, then it's not really stealing it. So you know. [00:42:45] Speaker C: Oh, that's very true. She's got a point. I mean if you're saying, yeah, I will come, then it's not stealing it. If I'm making you come, then it's. [00:42:54] Speaker A: Like, yeah, well, okay, okay, okay. So you have to understand, right, okay, the, the male biology. And I'm pretty sure that James will concur with me. Most of us guys, if we're having sexual relations with a woman, you know, most of us can maybe come within five to 10 minutes if we're just free flowing and allow ourselves. Right? But we train our bodies to last longer because we're female satisfaction, right? Because you know, a woman wants a minute, man, you five to 10 minutes. Like get the out of here, right? [00:43:27] Speaker C: It takes hours to get ready, no? [00:43:29] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So like, because we're. I do content creation, you know, I already know in my head, hey, we need to go at least 30 to 45 minutes. And then I'm like, okay, we get this position, that position. Okay, you ready for that nut girl? [00:43:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Fill you up, say it's just like. No, I don't say like that. It's kind of creepy. Was that creepy? Sometimes you sometimes creepy. Yeah. Send me your adult age daughters. And so like then I like bust, bust my load, you know, Titties cream pie, you know, I don't Even do a deep inside the, I do it at the base entrance of the. So that you can see the cream pie. You know, because I'm a professional. God damn it. [00:44:10] Speaker C: What was your point? [00:44:11] Speaker A: I don't know. I was just, I was just talking. [00:44:16] Speaker C: It went on. [00:44:17] Speaker A: It just went. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Basically, we're talking about soul stealing. [00:44:21] Speaker C: Yes. [00:44:21] Speaker A: So, so if it's on a, in a one on one situation, like, I will allow you to seal this. [00:44:33] Speaker D: If you're allowing it. [00:44:34] Speaker C: It's not getting stolen. [00:44:36] Speaker D: Do you see? [00:44:37] Speaker A: I, I, I, I see. But. Okay, I will leave the door unlocked and you can enter in, kick the door down and what she wants, you. [00:44:46] Speaker C: Can try is what you're saying. If you do not say no, you're giving it willingly. It's not. [00:44:51] Speaker A: Still, I'm not. Okay. I will make a half ass effort to not let you take my soul. I will, I'll make it. [00:45:01] Speaker C: I feel like we're having miscommunication. [00:45:02] Speaker A: Okay. [00:45:03] Speaker E: What I think it needs to be, though, so on Thursday or Friday, we're talking midday. [00:45:08] Speaker D: Noon. [00:45:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:09] Speaker E: Where it's a detriment for you to give it up at that point. So you don't really want to. And see if she can take it. [00:45:16] Speaker C: That is challenge taken. [00:45:18] Speaker A: Oh, see? She can take it. [00:45:20] Speaker C: Boom. [00:45:20] Speaker A: Okay. [00:45:21] Speaker E: When you're not, you're not ready to. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Give it up because it's middle of the day. [00:45:24] Speaker E: You still got 12 hours. [00:45:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I like it. [00:45:26] Speaker D: I love it. [00:45:27] Speaker A: I accept that challenge. [00:45:28] Speaker C: I, I feel like we should. Yeah. [00:45:30] Speaker A: And I feel like it should be videotaped and I feel like, yeah, you should be there. Charlie watching. [00:45:35] Speaker C: I'll be taping it and then I'll be film if it's okay with you. If it's not okay, then, yeah. But still, it's challenge taken. [00:45:42] Speaker A: He's taking. Yeah, absolutely. Hey. Hey, Marie. I, I, I will be talking a little bit of to you. It'll be friendly, but like. Yeah, just a little bit. [00:45:53] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what's gonna happen if, if my percentage goes down. Like maybe just shooting my ego straight. [00:46:03] Speaker A: Yeah, no, because, like, I could tell, like, I would have, I would have a very, very enjoyable time with you. [00:46:11] Speaker D: Like, I, I'm totally teasing. [00:46:13] Speaker C: It'd be horribly painful for him to absolutely be there for you to try to. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Well, okay, okay, so tell him what, when you try to. He tries to make me bust a nut. When you. [00:46:26] Speaker C: I'm gonna give me a hand. So frustrating. Okay. And I know all of his, like, buttons to push and I Still was, like, struggling, and I couldn't do it. I couldn't make, like. And I, I, I. I am gonna be taking a few more tries because I did see where, you know, I learned. I'm learning where I messed up. But, no, I was like, I can get you. I was like, I can get you to freaking come. I know your buttons, you know, and no, he. He's a very good professional and has. But, I mean, I'm. Yeah, I'm gonna wear him down. And then when you get him in November. [00:47:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll take both two of you guys, and I'll. [00:47:04] Speaker C: No, I would love to. [00:47:05] Speaker A: I just. [00:47:06] Speaker C: I would love it if you were able to steal it, because that'd be crazy. [00:47:11] Speaker A: Okay, so I feel like we. Okay, so. Okay, moving on. Yeah, I apologize. I. I apologize. I am sorry. All right. What is the craziest encounter that. [00:47:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:24] Speaker A: You have had in the lifestyle to date? [00:47:30] Speaker E: Which one? [00:47:31] Speaker A: Which one? [00:47:33] Speaker E: Yeah, seven guys here. The three guys Baker self. [00:47:39] Speaker D: Yeah. So I'd say prior to Splash, I had a very impromptu gang bang at a club in Vegas, and it was fantastic. [00:47:53] Speaker E: We say she slipped and fell into a gang bang. [00:47:56] Speaker A: Which club was it at? [00:47:57] Speaker E: Playhouse. [00:47:59] Speaker A: Okay. Playhouse. [00:48:00] Speaker C: Okay. So with Swingers. [00:48:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, they went to. You guys must have gone to Brian and Brenda's event. No, we actually. [00:48:08] Speaker E: We have been to one of theirs. This was just a regular Friday night. [00:48:11] Speaker D: Yeah, it was a. It was a regular Friday night. Had actually, like, picked out, like, another guy. So I am very shy, like, when I first meet people. And so we get there, and he's like, hey, anybody you're interested in? You need to. You need to go and approach them. Like, these guys are not going to approach you. And I'm like, that's not me. But anyway, so went up, introduced myself. All right. So we end up in a room with our friends who we don't play with. But so we're in there, and there's the guy who turns out, not only did I invite him, but she also invited him. So. So we've got kind of this little. [00:48:56] Speaker E: Group going, basically two couples, four single guys. [00:48:59] Speaker D: And that guy ended up on the outs with both of us. And so it was like, all right, you're out of the room. [00:49:06] Speaker E: And he didn't know how to share well, the. One of. [00:49:09] Speaker A: The. [00:49:09] Speaker E: One of the guys that we invited in did not know how to share well, and so he got booted from the action. [00:49:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:15] Speaker A: Okay, so. [00:49:16] Speaker D: So he leaves. Our friends, ended up leaving, and next thing you know, I have three young, fit, fit Yummy BBC. And they are just seamlessly working. Like, it was like this team effort and it was. It was like, if you. If there's a way to put it in a sexy way. It was almost like they had their stations and then it was like, okay, shift change. And. And then it was just like they rotated, but it was. Was way hotter than now. [00:49:57] Speaker C: I. I've got it in my head. Surprise. [00:50:01] Speaker A: Yeah, they. [00:50:02] Speaker E: They definitely had done this before. And they knew how to play well. [00:50:06] Speaker C: Oh, yes. [00:50:07] Speaker D: I mean, so they knew each other. Yes, we think so. [00:50:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:12] Speaker D: I. I know at least two of them did because when we had a little intermission, just kind of the way they were chatting and whatnot. And then, so, yeah, we finished in that room and then, you know, he's. Room, get a drink, whatnot. I can't remember. James stepped away for something and he comes drink. He. He comes back in. Because now we're like, in the, like, big open room. And he comes back over to see me being, like, led away to a large bed in a big open room. [00:50:47] Speaker E: You know that stage bed there in playhouse. [00:50:50] Speaker A: Yes. [00:50:51] Speaker E: Leading her up onto the stage bed that. [00:50:53] Speaker D: And so. [00:50:55] Speaker A: Okay. The one that's all the way back at the wall. [00:50:58] Speaker C: Okay. [00:50:58] Speaker A: Okay. [00:50:59] Speaker D: So it was one of the three that led me over there and then the other two. [00:51:05] Speaker C: Okay. [00:51:06] Speaker D: Here. Yeah, we're coming. [00:51:07] Speaker C: We're doing it. [00:51:09] Speaker D: And we ended up closing the club down. [00:51:11] Speaker E: Like, baby. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:12] Speaker E: Basically, we were the last people to walk out before they lock the door. [00:51:15] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:51:17] Speaker A: Ma', am, ma', am, please step away from the dick closing now. [00:51:22] Speaker D: I. I was very drunk that night. Like. Yeah, it was. [00:51:27] Speaker E: It was unreal and it was unplanned. Completely unpleasant. [00:51:30] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:51:30] Speaker C: That's why I'm like, my favorite. Yeah. Organic, random, spontaneous. [00:51:35] Speaker E: She loves, too. [00:51:36] Speaker D: Yep. [00:51:36] Speaker C: Yes. [00:51:37] Speaker D: Because we've tried to, like, oh, yeah, let's schedule a gang bang. And I'm like, I get to. I get in my head. I. I want to hand pick the people. And that's not always going to work. Not everybody who I've played with is necessarily a good team player. And I respect that because, like, there's certain things that I like about each one of them and maybe I wouldn't want them in a group setting. So. Yes. Anyway, so that was. That was hot. And then Flash, I had a gang bang orgy. [00:52:17] Speaker A: Don't know. [00:52:18] Speaker E: We got invited to a private room party. [00:52:20] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. [00:52:20] Speaker A: Okay. [00:52:21] Speaker E: And so. And again, one of these guys, her first guy, the guy who took her. Her splash cherry, really kind of took her under or Took her under his wing, introduced to a bunch of guys. We got to meet a bunch of other couples. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Was it Pagan? Who? [00:52:36] Speaker E: Pagan? [00:52:37] Speaker A: No. [00:52:38] Speaker C: Okay. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Okay. All right, go ahead. [00:52:42] Speaker D: Sorry. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Sorry. [00:52:43] Speaker E: But yeah, anyway, so then he, you know, got us invited to the room party, and we were one of four couples. And then I think we hit up to about a dozen single guys, but not all at the same time. You know, some would finish leave, other guys would show up. [00:52:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:00] Speaker E: So she ran her numbers up there. [00:53:03] Speaker D: That was. That was hot. [00:53:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:05] Speaker D: Because I remember pretty early on, like, I'm on my knees, and James is by my face. I don't even know who's behind me. I just know there was a difference in the feel, in the movement. And it was like, oh. And then at one point. Oh, yeah, at one point, he goes, hold your breath. I was like, why? And I held my breath. And then it was like, oh, yep, I understand. [00:53:36] Speaker E: This is a guy back there. [00:53:38] Speaker A: This is the guy that even the. [00:53:40] Speaker E: Other BBCs called Big. [00:53:44] Speaker A: He was like the alpha BBC and. [00:53:47] Speaker E: A super, super nice guy. [00:53:49] Speaker D: Oh, my gosh. Yeah. [00:53:51] Speaker E: Charismatic, good personality. Just. [00:53:54] Speaker D: And. And that's how I would say a good majority of all of these guys were. But anyways, I digress. I know this isn't a splash podcast, but, like, I could literally talk about that. [00:54:04] Speaker A: Well, it's funny because, like, when we go to Splash Mocha, right? It was, like, the first day that we had gotten up there, and so it's me and, like, three or four other black dudes in the elevator. And then this was the day before they, like, closed it down to, you know, just the general vanilla public. Right. There's a old guy in there with his wife, and they're like, are you guys football players? [00:54:32] Speaker E: Other team sports? [00:54:35] Speaker A: Hey, there's gonna be a lot of balls being tossed and thrown around this weekend. Yeah. So I guess we are playing. [00:54:40] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:54:42] Speaker A: But no, I mean, the funny. The fun thing is, like, all the black gentlemen down there are very nice, and they're usually vetted out. [00:54:51] Speaker E: And. [00:54:52] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's. That's why it's so fun. [00:54:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:54:56] Speaker C: Because if there were an abundance of creepy guy, you know, it's not gonna work. It has to be that guys are respectful, they're awesome, and they know what they're doing, and the couples are fun. And, you know, if you are a single guy there and you do not know how to play nice, you're not going to be asked back. You're not going to be allowed to have to be back. And the Same goes for couples or other, you know, single ladies. You, you have to play nice with people. [00:55:24] Speaker E: Yes, you do. [00:55:24] Speaker C: Even if you do not like them. You don't have to be around them. But just, you know, play nice. [00:55:29] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. [00:55:30] Speaker C: Everybody. [00:55:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:32] Speaker E: I think the worst way to deal with is two cleaners. Guys that just were, they got the. No, but wouldn't give up. [00:55:37] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:55:39] Speaker D: I'm just, I'm too nice. And I have a very difficult time, especially face to face. Be like, no, sorry, not gonna happen. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Give me your best rejection line. So, like, I'm like, hey, Shared Utah wife. I would love to. Yeah, I would love to get to know you more. I, I know I don't look like Shemar Moore, but I, I would love to get a piece of that. Shared Utah wife. [00:56:13] Speaker D: You, you guys cannot even appreciate this because I'm sitting here hiding behind my husband's arm and, like, covering my face. As much as I would love to get to meet up with you, I'm just not sure I'm gonna have enough time this go route. [00:56:33] Speaker C: That isn't great. That's a great response, honestly. [00:56:37] Speaker A: But, but, but I, I, I promise, my God. Shared Utah wife. It'll only take me four and a half minutes. I'll let you steal my soul. My soul is ready to be stolen. Shared Utah wife. [00:56:50] Speaker C: That's not a bonus. Sorry. [00:56:52] Speaker D: Your, your four and a half minutes is part of what I'm afraid of. But even then, I still don't have enough time. [00:57:00] Speaker C: No, no, that is. [00:57:02] Speaker D: No, no. [00:57:04] Speaker C: But I love your first response. That's very good. I need to actually, like. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. [00:57:12] Speaker A: Well, because it's hard rejecting people because, like, sometimes how guys are gonna act. [00:57:17] Speaker C: And sometimes they're not. But honestly, I feel like the guys at MOCA are, They're just like, they're. I don't, I know that they're not screened to be able to take rejection, but I feel like the, the, the fact that they're respectful and they do all these things, they're not going to take being rejected wrong. They're going to be like, okay, I'm not for everybody. You're not for everybody. [00:57:43] Speaker D: We're cool. [00:57:44] Speaker C: I'm going to go to the next person, you know, and so, you know. [00:57:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I feel like, you know, even as, you know, a content creator, there's people I reach out to and, you know, I, I've only been told, like, no, like, once. I'm not gonna lie. They hurt my feelings. But I was like, God damn. Okay, okay, yeah. But, like, my rule is, you know, it's two strikes, right? [00:58:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:11] Speaker A: So, like, I may make a reach out once, and then I may come back around, you know, maybe a few months later, and if they're still like. Like, oh, you know, maybe here, there, blah, blah, blah, whatever. I will just kind of take that as a friendly. Okay. She may not be interested in me, which is. Okay. [00:58:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:30] Speaker A: You know, I will still smile and, you know, give you a hug if I see you somewhere, but I'm not going to try to make any advances against you because, like, you already know that I want you, and I throw myself out there twice. So if you have. The feelings are reciprocated. [00:58:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:48] Speaker A: Then you will come up to me. And if you don't come up to me, then we're just not gonna play. [00:58:52] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:58:53] Speaker E: You know what, Marie? You've approached Doc twice, and this hasn't worked out. [00:58:57] Speaker A: Wow. [00:58:58] Speaker D: I. You know, and for somebody who lives local and doesn't give a physical address and just the name of a restaurant, I don't know. [00:59:08] Speaker A: Aloof, I. Okay, okay, okay. [00:59:11] Speaker D: So starting to wonder. [00:59:12] Speaker A: No, no, no. I like. Okay, so one. Charlie, Is this a woman that I would. Yes. [00:59:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Dis. No. [00:59:23] Speaker A: Yeah, Absolutely. Okay. [00:59:24] Speaker C: I was gonna say. Absolutely. You would normally play with someone who has her appearance, so. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Yes, yes, yes. You. You would definitely, like, if your resume came across my desk, you would definitely go to the top of, you know, HR would, like, run and give me the resume and the letters of recommendation, and I would definitely get you into a interview. But, like, no, I literally was in traffic. Like, did I tell you about that? [00:59:52] Speaker C: You did. [00:59:53] Speaker A: Okay. I was literally in traffic for about 45 minutes, and it was, like, on the interstates, and it was 113 or 114 degrees. How hot it was. [01:00:05] Speaker D: Yep. [01:00:06] Speaker A: And, like, I had to go pee, and. And I'm in my 40s, so my. My prostate was. I was like, I'm going to see her. I see her. I was like. I was dedicated. But I do apologize. So please accept my apologies, shared Utah wife. Whenever I do see you, you can sit on my face as long as you want. [01:00:38] Speaker C: I believe you have an appointment Thursday before. Yeah, mocha. [01:00:42] Speaker E: The Thursday mocha. [01:00:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I do. [01:00:44] Speaker C: Yep. [01:00:45] Speaker A: Yep. [01:00:46] Speaker E: Challenge. [01:00:46] Speaker C: Boom. [01:00:47] Speaker A: Oh, challenge. Yes. [01:00:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:49] Speaker A: Okay, well, maybe if she sits on my face and, like, there's some oxygen deprivation, maybe that'll help her to steal my soul. Because I'll be. [01:00:57] Speaker E: You better learn to breathe through your ears. [01:01:02] Speaker C: So that. [01:01:03] Speaker D: That was part of my rookie of the year nomination is make sure. You have a splash pad. [01:01:13] Speaker A: On your bed. She's a squirter. [01:01:16] Speaker D: Yes. [01:01:19] Speaker E: I've had to leave very, very large tips at hotels until we start bringing our own splash blanket. [01:01:28] Speaker D: Splash. [01:01:31] Speaker A: No, no, I'm speaking. Okay. So, all right, you guys have been awesome. [01:01:37] Speaker C: Yes. [01:01:38] Speaker A: And lovely. So we're going to end this, but, like, can you guys give some tips and recommendations to. There may be a couple or a guy that he wants to get the. His couple, his wife or whatnot into the lifestyle. Can you give them some tips on how to properly enter into the lifestyle? First James and then Marie, or y' all could do it together. [01:02:06] Speaker E: You know, my first tip again, learning my hard lesson, is, it's not about you. You need to propose. It is a way. It's about her. That. So she's going to understand what you're looking for and why you're looking for it. You don't just blurt out, I want to see you another guy. That. That's what not to do. And my second thing is communicate. There's gonna be bad times in the lifestyle. You're gonna make mistakes. If you can't talk it out like mature adults, you're not gonna survive. [01:02:42] Speaker C: Yep. [01:02:45] Speaker D: My advice, and there's not any particular order, you don't get into the lifestyle. To fix your relationship, you need to be firmly established. And I will say, like. Like, how you guys see us, this is how we are. And so, like, people who meet us are always like, how long have you guys been married? They think we're newlyweds. I mean, so it is just, like, improved our relationship so much. So. Yes. To. To add on to what James had said, it's also too letting the wife know that she's in full control. [01:03:26] Speaker E: Yes. [01:03:27] Speaker D: When. When he did that and explained, he's like, I don't care if, like, he's got his pants down. And you say, no, I'm. I don't want to continue. He's like, you have that control. And that was huge for me because I was like, I just figured, okay, if I've. If I'm that far, like, I have to continue. And he's like, no, you get. You have control. You get to call stop at any time. And that immediately I was like, all right. A little bit more like, okay, there's the empowerment. [01:04:03] Speaker C: Yep. [01:04:04] Speaker D: So, yeah, just feel like making your wife your girlfriend, making her feel empowered, making her feel like a queen. Which is something that, like, he hasn't stopped dating me. And so it hasn't been a thing. Like, he mentioned of like okay, do this that you're doing this for you. You're again showing her that she is the most important person, not important thing, but most important to you. And you just want to make her feel good and you want to see her happy. So those are all our tips. [01:04:47] Speaker A: Good. That is beautiful. That is beautiful. You guys and ladies have been listening to the Bulls and Queens and we have had Marie and James. You can find them on Twitter, formerly known as X. Actually X formerly known as Twitter at Shared Utah Wife. Check out their adventures and maybe one day you may see some content creation. But don't hold your breath. Breath right and heals my soul. You should probably always bet on black and then make sure you check out my beautiful co host, the sexy, the gorgeous, the beautiful Fun Charlie. You can find her. She lives@funcharli.com you can find her on X at Fun Charlie 420. And last but not least, make sure you check out the guy that does not look like Shemar Moore, Doc Chocolate at Bulls and Queens or my website, docchocolatefans.com so till next time, y' all be lovely, stay sexy, be beautiful, take care of each other and just be kind to one another. Bye. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Thank you for listening to everybody's favorite black man candy, Doc Chocolate of the Bulls and Queens podcast. If you would like Doc Chocolate to help you host your next fun and kinky private party or you want info on his next monthly Las Vegas Bulls and Queens play party or you'd like to have him pose as a nude or semi nude model for your next girls night out or bachelorette party. Make sure you go to www.bullsandqueens.com right now and fill out the form on the website to contact doc again. That's www.bullsandqueens.com until next time. Bulls, Queens and Cucks. Stay sexy.