Goddess Jade Li

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Doc Chocolate BBC: What’s up? What’s up? Everybody? It is your man, Doc. Chocolate, BBC. Coming at? You live from Las Vegas, Nevada, and I have another guest who I was able to entice to come on my podcast and I will introduce this little beauty here in just

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a second. But before we get started. I want you guys, ladies, to go to my website, get your free copy of my ebook, which is the bulls, the queens and the Swingers Survival guide to the lifestyle. It’s going to help you navigate through all the issues, the pitfalls and landmines of getting into the lifestyle. If you are new, and trust me. There are a lot of landmines, isn’t there, Guest?

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Jade Li: Lots lots, and you don’t wanna blow your ass up. And so you’re gonna get that copy at Bull’s in queens.com don’t do when you’re driving, though I mean II don’t want y’all getting to an accident or running over a little lady, and you know, just saying, Oh, Dot Chocolate got me

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Doc Chocolate BBC: into an accident, you know, like hey? Guess I gotta tell people that, you know, because looks like people do that shit. Yeah, and try Sue me and shit like that. You know

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Doc Chocolate BBC: the hell is wrong with you people, and and also make sure that you guys go to

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Dot Chocolate, bbc.com. And there you can get my swinger videos, and you can subscribe to my only vans or whatever it is I have up there because I’m going to slowly but surely start switching away from only fans. So. But you guys are still gonna be able to see my spicy fun, real time adventures that I have with

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Doc Chocolate BBC: hot wives and cuckold couples, and, matter of fact, the lovely lady that I have on board me and her like, after a year of planning like we finally shot some sexy film like, what was it like 4 or 5 months ago.

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Jade Li: Yeah, it was September. So, yeah.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: yeah, yeah, yeah, about 4, 5 months ago. So as we record this, it is January. And usually I do it the other way around. So like, usually, what I do is I try to

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Jade Li: get the beautiful ladies on my podcast. First and then they’re like, oh, he’s somewhat charming, so I’m so bad I’m so bad. Hell! Yes, hell! Yes, I’m coming up. My gain is getting better as I get older. It only took me 43 years to achieve. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: right there you go. And also, you guys make sure that you leave a brother a 5 star review on whatever platform you’re listening to this on. So if you’re listening to this on Google, or Spotify or apple itunes whatever it is, leave me a 5 star Review. Leave me a 5 star review, because that’s what allows other people

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Doc Chocolate BBC: who are searching for cuckolding lifestyle swinging. It allows it helps to allow them to find this podcast just so that they can hear the stories of the people, the swingers that I get on this. Podcast so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: without further ado, drum roll. Please let me introduce the lady

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and the queen of the hour. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: she is a swinger, an Asian milk which stands for mother. I like to fuck

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and a video creator. Her husband and she have been into lifestyle for 5 years and have been making content for 2 and a half years. We’ll tell you what her site is here in just a moment.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: She’s a pleaser, so she gets pleasure out of knowing that others have enjoyed their time with her, and she’s able to fulfill fantasies virtually

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Doc Chocolate BBC: she’s a switch, so she can go from being dominant to submissive instantly.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: That kind of turns me on just reading that

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Doc Chocolate BBC: she’s been in the lifestyle, and as a content creator, it not only allows her to fulfill this pleasure of hers, but is also a way that she has made many, many great friends along the way.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Her website is Jade lee.co. And her name is Jade Lee. Aka.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: hot wife, goddess J. Lee. Give her a hand.

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Jade Li: How you doing, girl? I’m doing great. I’m doing great. So it’s always a pleasure seeing you and your beautiful Smiley face and all that. Yeah, your energy. And so how are things going? So you’re located

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Doc Chocolate BBC: in Denver, Colorado. And it was like negative 200 degrees Antarctica temperature up there. Is that correct? Pretty much. Once you get started to get negatives, I don’t know if it matters how low negative you get. It’s just freaking cold. Yeah, it really doesn’t. It really doesn’t. Because, you know, obviously, I’m in Las Vegas. So it’s a lot warmer, you know. It’s about 40 50 degrees.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: But I grew up in Omaha, Nebraska, and I remember the last year jade that I lived there. It was back in 2002. I wanna say

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I, the winner was it was a polar vortex, and it was like negative 5 negative, 10 degrees air temperature. But then the wind chill was negative, 40 or negative 50, and I had a escrow on top of my head, which were some of you guys that are

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Doc Chocolate BBC: non, black culture appropriate. It’s that little hairstyle where you put a little bit of juice in there, and it kind of curls up. You know what I’m saying about jade that shit froze. Yeah, it froze, and it was so cold that, okay.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so ask me, how cold was it?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: How cold was it? It was so cold that when I breathed like there was no cloud or anything that popped out of my mouth.

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Jade Li: It was just freezing instantly. It was just freezing instantly.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, I was like, Damn, I’m black. I don’t. Yeah. I gotta get the not that I gotta get out of here. I’m like, I gotta get the fuck out of here, you know, I was like fuck. So the next year I moved to to Oklahoma, and I say there for 10 years before I moved to to Vegas. So yeah, so so how’s that been like going through, like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you know, doing all the shit that you do in Denver?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I mean, I I’m born and raised. I’m a Carter native, so I’m used to it. This it’s cold, but it’s doable. You know, it’s

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Jade Li: you just layer up, and then you take layers off as you get hot, and then you put them back on. It’s just the way Colorado is. Wow! Does it kinda like entice you to like snuggle with your husband with your bulls definitely makes you not want to get out of the bed? Yes, for sure. You’re like, Oh, man like it’s so warm. Right here. I got the body heat going. It’s yeah. It’s hard to get out of the bed. But

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Jade Li: gotta be an adult and do adult things so and so we already told people how to find you. Is that jade lead.co. And Lee is Li so jade lead.co. What are other places that people can find you at, Miss Jade?

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Jade Li: We’ll see. Let’s see here. I’m on tick tock. I’m on Twitter or ex. Now. I’m on minibids. I’m on fansly. I’m on of I just started a porn hub, so I’m on porn hub now.

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Jade Li: Let’s see what else? I’m on sex, panther, I’m on Clapper. I’m an Ig.

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Jade Li: I think that covers it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: You’re you’re missing one thing, are you on Doc? Chocolate?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, yes, I’m on chocolate, I mean. I would love to have you on me like over and over again. So with me jade film, we

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Doc Chocolate BBC: It was a threesome, and it was with a beautiful, lovely, hot wife. I’m trying to so not say her real name. It was with the beautiful hot wife L.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And like they took turns like writing, my Dick, and writing my face, and that’s like my King, that’s like my finish, like I’ll just like, Oh, my God! Just like that big curvy booty in my face. Yeah, hey? Hey? Jd, hey? You’re writing the shit out of my face, and then my Dick, and, like my, my, Dick has never been the same after you wrote on it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I gotta get a second round definitely. A hot fun time, that’s for sure, and I think part of it was the buildup, because, like you said, we’ve been talking for at that point we’ve been talking for a year

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Jade Li: and just our schedules weren’t lining up. And so it was like the buildup of like, oh, I finally get to play with Doc. Chocolate. Yeah. So I might have got a little animalistic. Oh, shit, hey? The first thing that she said to me, you guys feel like when she, when she met me, cause her and her husband. We went to a hotel takeover, and so like her and her husband Brad, they came, and she was like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, you shorter than I thought. I thought you were 6 foot tall. You have this big personality, you know, right? And then you’re like, Oh, shit you short! 5 7. So oh.

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Jade Li: hey, hey, Dory, it’s not just you like it happens to everybody. Alright so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: hey, hey, my, my, my dig! Isn’t that small?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: She’s like she’s like she. She’s like, yeah. Doc Stick didn’t even go past my clit when we fucked next. So the one day that attracted me to you, jade

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Doc Chocolate BBC: was outside of your personality, because you do have high energy, and you do just have this like lovely nature to you and all that. But from a physical standpoint, you guys, she is beautiful. And you’ve heard this before. And I’m sure you’ve probably heard like.

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Jade Li: Oh, you look so you’re exotic, right? Because, like, she’s okay. Let me just Ca, can I describe you? I have permission. Okay.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: she’s like, Hey, she’s giving me this. I right now. She’s like you better give me a good description, motherfucker, but she’s giving me that eye. Okay, yeah. So she’s she’s about 5, ish? I wanna say 5, 4. Okay? And like she has these. She’s half Asian, half white, so she’s half Japanese, half white, and it brings like this like very

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Doc Chocolate BBC: beautiful, gorgeous like mixture about her right? Because she has these. these naturally olive green eyes.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Hazel, okay? And they’re natural, right? Because, like, because, like a lot of times. What I do is like with somebody has like, really, really pretty eyes, like jade does. I’m always looking. I’m like those contacts. But then I can tell, because, like the pupils are small, right? And I was like, Oh, shit! Those are her real eyes. I was like, she is fucking beautiful. And then she has this like this, like nice

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Doc Chocolate BBC: here with these blonde highlights, and then she has this thick

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Doc Chocolate BBC: booty, and like these hips in these legs, and it’s like she got these child bearing hips. And oh, my God! And one of my finishes, you guys, ladies, is just sit on my face and let me slap your ass, and was great about it was when I was with you, and the lovely

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Doc Chocolate BBC: ill like I hey? You saw me trying to think I was like God, David, I don’t wanna say a real name. Because, yeah, yeah, because, like III don’t wanna have to do a bunch of editing on this. Podcast so I’m like, let me see, I’m like goddamn, I gotta like blot out her name. So I’ll, I was with both who them and both 2 of them like have like these booties, which is just like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: made for us

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Doc Chocolate BBC: black dudes. And so like 80 boys. hey, I’m gonna get canceled. But anyways, so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: that being said, Miss Jade. tell us how you and your awesome hubby, Brad, how did you all get started in the lifestyle?

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Jade Li: How we got started in the lifestyle. Unfortunately, our stories that like exciting and like, Oh, this happened. And then this happened. It’s pretty but I like it, because it’s kind of it’s based off a communication which is what the lifestyle is all about. He came to me one day and just said, I have a fantasy.

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Jade Li: I want to see you with other men. I want to see you sleep with other men. I want to see another guy fuck you good. And I was like. Huh.

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Jade Li: really. Okay, I was, very intrigued and curious, because all my past relationships have been very controlling, possessive, very jealous. And so for my husband.

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Jade Li: At this point we’ve been married for 8 years, and so for my husband to come to me and tell me that he wanted to see another guy fuck me. I was like, Okay, so we just, you know, through open communication, talked about it some more. And it was also a way for us to, so my husband, Brad, is a pansexual.

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Jade Li: and so it was a way for us to kind of also explore that a little bit more together. That wasn’t even his initial thought when he brought the lifestyle up to me. It was more just, you know, to hot life. But then I was like, well, what about you know? What about this like? Can? Is this something that we can do in that space as well? And so that’s kind of how it just came about. It was just through open communication that we decided to venture into lifestyle together.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: That is beautiful. And so what were your like? Initial thoughts like he comes to you? He’s like, All right, baby girl. I wanna see you fuck all the dudes like. How did he like? Say it? Exactly. And then what were your initial

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Jade Li: reactions to that? II was. I know I was quiet, for, like a like the 2 min after. And was just this like, did I hear this? Right? Am I processing his words so Brad’s great at communicating? But when he gets nervous to talk about something. He stumbles so it took him a minute to get it out of his mouth.

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Jade Li: But then he just flat out, just gets frustrated with how he can’t say it. Any flat out just speaks it so what he said precisely, I can’t remember was 5 years ago, but I know I was quiet afterwards. And I was just like.

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Jade Li: Okay, usually, people are like, Oh, I wanna do this because I wanna explore more with women together. And this was like.

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Jade Li: like, I said, coming from a background of having possessive and jealous boyfriends, or my husband telling me that he was not jealous, and he wanted to see me have relations with others. I was a little shocked, so I took a minute to process it.

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Jade Li: And I know most people are like. Well, isn’t that a way for them just to say so? They can sleep with other people? But that never crossed my mind. It never even entered my mind of. That’s why he was bringing it to me. So it was. It was a. It was a quiet couple of minutes afterwards, but then, after that I don’t think we both were just kind of going at it, asking questions and talking about things. And it was like a couple of hour long conversations. So

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Jade Li: okay, like, do you remember what your first question was to him after those like 2 min of silence which pro probably felt like 20 h of silence to Brad I was like, so wait, you want to see me sleep with other men like I had to clarify what he was asking, and so that it was. I think I’m kind of so long ago, but I pretty sure was along the lines of like, well, how does that work like?

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Jade Li: How do we go about this like cause? I knew of the lifestyle, but I didn’t know that there was sites or websites or apps to go to, or, you know, podcast to listen to. So I was like, how do we even go about this? And Brad’s like, Oh, well, I listen to the front port swingers already on their podcast and you know, they talk about different sites that you can get on. And I was like, okay. So he’s already been

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Jade Li: not with it. But he’d already been kind of listening and doing some of his own research.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And like, how long? So you guys are listening to the podcast and you guys have done your talks like, how long did it take before you guys actually

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Jade Li: put the pedal to the middle and actually did action like? Did you go through like clubs first, or did you just like jump straight in? Did you just watch initially like, what was the story, Jay. So we within a week we were getting on Cassidy and creating a profile and just communicating back and forth. So at the time when we first got on there. We were only interested in single men. We weren’t interested in couple swaps. We were kinda just kind of going in as a hot life couple.

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Jade Li: So we only we’re chatting with single men on through Cassidy, and after doing that for about a month or so, I was like, you know what I want. I wanna be in the environment of, you know, a swingers club. I wanna put myself in the environment so I can experience it and see.

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Jade Li: So within a month we were going to the Scarlet ranch here in Colorado, and we did Rookie first time or mistake. We went in the evening for dinner. We went at dinner. There we were there for like 6 h, 6 or 7 h, because we got there at 60’clock.

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Jade Li: Never again. Will I go to the club that early? I think there was maybe 2 other couples there at the time that we first got there. So I mean there was experience. It was fun we got to kind of walk around the place and kinda really see it without other people around. So that was kinda nice but we went, and we just

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Jade Li: we talked with people, but we really went and just watched. I just wanted to kind of

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Jade Li: see how I felt about being in an open environment review. There was open play and you know, learning about the the private rooms and the curtains and all that so we didn’t do anything there. We just went and watched, and we kind of, you know, made out with each other for a little bit. But that was really it. It was just more to go and see how I felt being there. And I was excited. Oh, okay, that’s good. So.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: hey, you just have this like little cute ass, smile that pop in your face, and he’s so like I was excited. Shit so. And that’s one key piece of advice that I get to people. If I’m coaching them in the lifestyle, they’re asking questions about the lifestyle jade. I always tell them that

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Doc Chocolate BBC: when you first go into this right, I can’t even say it right like, just do a little bit of reconnaissance, and just like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: scope out the land and just soak it in, and don’t have any expectations to play. Just go there to watch, and then, if you do do anything physical, do it with each other, you know, and then have your initial set of rules, which is always gonna change. Yeah. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: okay, so this first one, you guys go, you watch. You’re up there for like 6 h, and you’re like, Oh, my God! This is so early! But then your eyes getting big, and you’re like, I like this. So when did you guys actually start playing?

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Jade Li: So after that we went to the club? So this was in January, I think, of 2,020, I think 2,019, 2,019. I can’t remember and then so we went to the club again the next month for Mardi Gras, the Mardi Gras, and we met a couple that that night that we hung out with for about an hour or 2 upstairs, playing pool shooting the shit talking, and then decided that we wanted to go downstairs to swap with them.

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Jade Li: It was a fun experience, but not my most memorable experience. It’s actually how we developed a few more rules for us as well like. So the couple was really nice and the gentleman was a little drunk a little too drunk. But we were just rolling with it. But you know, kissing them, he tasted like alcohol. It was just

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Jade Li: wasn’t the best and

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Jade Li: days, and it’s almost like the smell of alcohol was coming off of them still. And it was like, Okay, this is.

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Jade Li: But you know, I was like, I’m not. Gonna I’m not. I’m gonna keep it open, mind, I’m gonna go with it and see. But it’s kinda how. So we ended up just doing like soft swap stuff with them. And then I was like, you know, I’m really not feeling this

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Jade Li: so we I excused us.

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Jade Li: Cause. We knew then that it just that’s that was the disconnect. We didn’t know them. We just met. I’m sure they were nice, and they were cool, but there was not enough time to build a connection with them

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Doc Chocolate BBC: that makes sense. That makes sense, because a lot of times, you know, especially in this day and age people. Well, II personally think that it’s better to connect with people, you know, in telegram groups or on sites like Cassidy or telegram groups or Twitter X, whatever you wanna call it, and you know, just develop that, you know. Hey? I know you just like me. And you, you know, like we have been chatting for about a year.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you know, and like we have planned on meeting up and playing, I think, like 2 or 3 times. Yeah. And I remember you came down for your birthday. And I was like, all right, I’m gonna give her some birthday chocolates. It’s my dig in a box. You know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Vegas, I was with another guy, and I’ll leave his name unsaid out. I was hanging with him, and he was telling me, yo, doc, about to meet with Jay later on, because I think you were staying at resource world.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: was it? Yeah, out here in Vegas? And I was like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: okay. And then he told me to time, cause I think he’s supposed to meet you at 10 pm. Or something like that, or 9 Pm. And so you know I’m watching him gamble, and I think he’s playing blackjack, and we’re at some hotel on the strip, and then I’m like yo. Aren’t you supposed to go meet up with jade. And he’s like, Oh, yeah,

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Doc Chocolate BBC: yeah, yeah, I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll tell her that I’ll you know. Give her her later. And so I’m thinking, he texted you. And then I’m like, Did you text her? And he’s like, No, no, not yet. And I was like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I you should text her right. And you know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so we get to the we get to the hotel, and then, you know, he’s calling you, and then you’re not pick it up, and then he’s like, I know she hears me because it’s ringing, and this and that, and I’m like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: please don’t tell her that I’m with you, cause I could tell, like somebody in my head told me that he was

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So they go by and told me that you solve the the call. And you’re like, Yeah, I’m not picking up. And I was like, Okay, yeah, I don’t want it to get connected with this shit because I don’t want her. I don’t want Jason’s first impression on me to be.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Would this do? I just got here the traffic and I was like.

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Jade Li: dude. You’re like 45 min late, like, no, I’m not picking up your call, either, did he? No, yeah, see, it’s like, there you go, you guys communication. You gotta communicate this stuff right? So just like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Jade and Brad, they had good proper communication, you know. He properly communicated to to his beautiful lady what he wanted.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and when you’re trying to meet up with couples or singles, you gotta communicate stuff, you know. You gotta let them know ahead of time. So alright. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: tell us a little bit more about pansexuality. So there’s gonna be some people that are kind of confused because there’s a lot of terms, you know. So obviously. You’re bisexual. Do you classify yourself as bisexual? Or I do now. So when actually we first got into lifestyle, I was not bisexual. I’m straight.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: It wasn’t until March of last year that I started exploring more

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Jade Li: with women. So about a year ago, almost now that I started exploring more with women and I think it was just finding the right women to explore with. That made me go. Okay, no. I enjoy this in the past when I had ever explored pick women, I was like, Yeah, this is not. I’m not feeling this. It’s not doing anything for me. So I think it was finding the right women that I just really connected with to open that door a little bit further for me.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, and like W. One of the things I love doing is like, if II love threesomes and reverse gang banks with multiple women that’s like another one of my kings.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and I like one thing that I love is like, if, like like a woman, 2 women are giving me a blow job at the same time they’re kissing at the same time as well, and like you and hot wife L. You guys are doing that so like at the same time on my Dick, you know, just like like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: beautiful. And do you think that women are

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Doc Chocolate BBC: cause? Obviously not all women are Bi. But do you think that, like women, are typically more predisposed of being like bicurious, bisexual, bi-friendly?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: What? What are your thoughts on that?

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Jade Li: I think that they are not, I think, because the world and the lifestyle is more accepting of bi women, more women say it. I think there’s a lot of by curious buy open by situational men lifestyle, but because it’s still kind of like. Hush, hush! Not as many of them come out as say that they are by or by situational or by comfortable.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, so do you feel like it’s kind of like the same like percentages like Buy or pan men

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Jade Li: compared to women, I think there’s probably more percentage wise as far as women go. Yes, but I don’t think there’s that big of a percentage If

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Jade Li: if every man that was biased came out and said they were by. I think there would that the percentage would be smaller, but because not as many men come out saying that they’re bi. It looks like there’s a lot more by women than there are by men.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. Because, yeah, cause. I mean, you know, in this society it’s, obviously more acceptable for a woman to be by or whatnot. You know hell, not even just in lifestyle, but you know in general as well, you know. So you know you have to be a swinger, you know. Woman says, Oh, yeah, I kiss the girl, and I liked it, you know. Hey? Join the club right? But oh, that’s fucking hot. But then you hear a man say that, and it it’s, it’s, it’s a different reaction.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, it really does really does. And I mean, I classify myself as straight. But like, I’m very, very accepting of, you know everybody’s sexual whatnot. And so yeah, cause like, you know, I had. I’ve had a couple like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: cooks or husbands, you know, like, give me a blow job with their wife. And I’m like, Yeah, yeah, don’t really like that. But that’s you know, whatever you know what I’m saying, Oh, Rebelli, okay, okay. A. A. A. A. We may do that when you all to come back down to Vegas there, but like to tell me a little bit more about Brad. So like, obviously, he’s pansexual. So can you tell us, like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: what’s the difference between pen sexuality versus bisexuality?

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Jade Li: Yeah. So like when you’re by, you’re attracted to both men and women. So you’re attracted to the same sex. And you’re attracted to the opposite sex. Pretty self explanatory simple. When you’re pan sexual, their sexual orientation has nothing to do. If you’re attracted to them, you’re attracted to more of them as a person. Then you are their sexual preferences or their sexual orientation. So like as a pansexual, you could be attracted to men.

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Jade Li: women trans nonbinary. Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with the attraction.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. So cause. It seems like there’s a lot of overlap between the the 2 terms. But yeah, I could see the the clear definition well, the clear dividing line between that. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so tell me, you guys like, W. What would you classify your sales as so? Obviously, you’re not cuckold.

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Jade Li: are you stag vixen? Would you say we’re kind of more stag vixen? You know, I would definitely say, that’s more of the term that we are close to. Besides being like a hot wife couple, we are more stag vixen, but at the same time he does also play it’s not just me playing, and but we are, I would say the closest term would be stag and mix and dynamic

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Jade Li: beautiful. Do you like seeing him play with the Brad? So Brad says it like this. He’s like, okay, cause he’s a car guy, too. So he says, you have your car. You love your car. You know how your car feels. You know how your car sounds, but you’ve never seen your car in action because you’re always behind the wheel.

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Jade Li: He’s like I get to watch my car in action, driving around and doing, you know, donuts and shit and that’s it’s a it’s a pretty self, explanatory, breakdown way of explaining it. He gets to watch his favorite car take a ride.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I love that I love that and trust me. Y’all jade is a beautiful fun ride. Just saying, is she got 4 wheel drive because she needs that open Denver. But yeah, I do. I like watching him, too, because I know how much he can pleasure me. And so II like watching him do it to other people.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Do you like watching more or participating, more participating, participating? Okay, okay, do you like playing with guys? More ladies? More?

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Jade Li: It’s it’s now it’s like it’s like a really like I don’t. I don’t know if I have a favorite. I like playing with them together. That’s my favorite. I like when there’s men and women all just having fun together. I don’t know if I like one solo over the other. I like it when it’s a good mixture. So yeah, I don’t.

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Jade Li: I don’t have a favorite.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So you like orgies.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, I like, yeah, I like orgies, too. I love the the sexual synergy like when you’re in a hot orgy and bodies all around, and everybody’s switching back and forth. And exactly, we actually had our first 8 person orgy at Pod Bash.

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Jade Li: Oh, shit! Tell us about that. Invite. The fuck. Was that invited? I think I saw the video of it afterwards. I was like.

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Jade Li: that was hot. Yeah, it was hot. It was hot. I mean, there was only a small video of it, because, it was 4 couples and one couple. They don’t a film, they don’t. They’re not content creators. So it was film for personal pleasure. But it wasn’t film to put out there for the world to see. Unfortunately, but one of the couples was

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Jade Li: hot Wi-fi L and her hubby A/C, and then the other was another couple Lexi and her her hubby and then the other couple is, they’re not content, creators. So.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: but you actually can, because, like they’re on Twitter. And they gave me permission to say their name when I interviewed Amy Idaho. So are are you talking about Dr. Jay and E.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yes, yes, okay, like, yeah, yeah, they gave you provision. So like, yeah, cause IIII play with her that little cute as Puerto Rican dynamite. And I was like, Oh, my God, II played with her twice over that weekend. Yeah.

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Jade Li: yeah, I don’t usually do that. I’m like you, hey? Usually I’m like in a buffet. I’m like, I want this woman. I want that woman, this woman. I had to go back to her twice. Sounds like shit so for, and we already like we already known elle and A/C like really good friends with them. I’ve been chatting with Lexi for quite a while. On on Twitter. So we had built up, and we exchanged numbers before Podbash, and we’re just building up that connection and vibe

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Jade Li: same thing with he and Dr. Joan. So it like

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Jade Li: it just all. And everybody was friends with everybody. So it just meshed really well, and just the

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Jade Li: it was like a well oiled moving machine on that king bed like, just like working like magic. And it yeah, it was. There was definitely bottles of lube

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Jade Li: floating around, or good old spit, you know. Good old spit is works just great for loop, too. Oh, shit! And the bed was able to support 8 people on there. Oh, well, I mean, at times people might have been standing off to the side, you know, but there was always at least 6 people on that bed.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay. Okay? Cause. I remember my first, okay, my first experience doing lifestyle stuff. Right? I went to the red rooster in Las Vegas. And I was, it was late 2016,

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Doc Chocolate BBC: just keeping up the place, and just like just slidy soak in right. And to these gorge th, there’s these 2 gorgeous ladies right? And they’re just like really feeling me. And so their husbands come over to me, and they’re like, well, hey, our ladies like on a play with you, and I was like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: well, I just kinda came to watch. But like there, you almost like, okay, yeah, put me on the spot. And like, I’ve never. This is my first experience in the lifestyle. Right? So it’s like they’re like, okay, let’s go to the room, right? So we go to the room.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And then we start and dressing. And then I see these 2 guys start addressing, and I’m like, Whoa, hey, what’s going on, you know, cause you don’t get I’m new, so I don’t know the rules of the etiquette. You know. I’m kinda thinking in my head, okay, well, am I gonna be fucking these ladies? And so I was gonna stick cause?

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Jade Li: Oh, I don’t know. Okay. So like we all got on the bed. So it’s 5 of us right, and like we broke the bit like we heard it like crack, and it broke.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and I was like, shit. And yeah, and I lasted a good 5, 6 min, and the guys were talking shit to me. They’re like, Come on, don’t, Bustin that I mean it was friendly shit, but like they’re like, oh, no, don’t, Buster Dud, you got it? You got it?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Come on, don’t bust busting nut all the muscles shit that I was like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: fuck you so anyways, this, but very memorable, and like I may have gone up there, Jay.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: totally high, and I may have walked into the indoor pool. And yeah, that

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Doc Chocolate BBC: definitely happened. And yeah, fun story fun story. So anyways, so what’s your craziest lifestyle experience?

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Jade Li: my most memorable actually was. It was one of the one of the first hot life experiences that I had. It was actually at the front port Swingers hot wife event here in Denver. We had gone to one Vegas and then

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Jade Li: They had came out here a couple months later, and it was our first one going to the hotwife event here in Denver and

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Jade Li: that II actually knew he had been already messaging me on my Ig for months and months ahead of time. But he I mean he’s obviously lifestyle. But he was more on my page as like a a fan sort of cause of like

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Jade Li: my Ig was obviously to promote. You know, my content and things of that nature. But he came off very, very aggressive, and very just

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Jade Li: rubbed me the wrong way surprisingly. And I was like he just he just. He just rubbed me the wrong way is aggressive. He’s cocky. I can’t deal with this, so I kinda cut off ties chatting with him, and then we ended up running them into at like into him at the hot life event.

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Jade Li: And it’s funny how people will have 2 different sometimes ways that they are, because through messaging DM. He was very cocky, very arrogant, very

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Jade Li: just pushy. He was so gentle, so nice

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Jade Li: totally got along with them really great, sat there, talked for a couple of hours at the event. The event was ending, and we were like, Do you want to come home with us? Well, we had an Airbnb, but we we took a back to the Airbnb with us, and I think we got back to the Airbnb about 2 30, and I don’t think we went to bed until like 6.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So just the 3 of you guys, you, Brad, did you ever tell him that? You know he almost lost his shot by his dms. You do. Okay. I was like you were super aggressive and just

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Jade Li: not what I expected in person. So I’m glad that this actually happened, because I would have blew you off. I blew you off. I had no intention of chatting with you, and I still chat with them to this day.

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Jade Li: he’s like, Oh, okay, he’s like, it’s almost like he’s so quiet in person. He like processed it. But he didn’t express how he was processing it in his head. Okay, gotcha gotcha. Well, honestly, I am glad that you told him about that, because I feel like it’s very, very important, especially for a single guys to address or communicate with the lady couples in an appropriate manner, you know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Cause I mean? Obviously, yeah, you don’t wanna be too too passive. But you don’t wanna be an asshole, either. I think it’s better if you go a little bit less than a little bit too

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Jade Li: exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Now I now I understand, and I can take the aggressiveness that he has to throw at me. Cause. Now we have that friendship. And whereas before, it was like, yeah, I just yeah. But yeah, it’s definitely important to communicate to people. It’s people have to realize that you’re not doing it to be mean, you’re just trying to let them know. And you know something that they could work on.

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Jade Li: Yeah. Yeah. And so you guys got into the lifestyle. Any of you guys are discovering yourselves along this journey. J, so you’re discovering. Oh, hey, I’m bisexual. I like girls. And then, Brad is discovering that he’s pantsexual. And how did you guys make the leap from just doing lifestyle to doing lifestyle and then also creating content.

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Jade Li: Not, major content. It was very little. It was funny how that kind of came about. I

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Jade Li: I had started doing my like on my lifestyle health and wellness journey. For myself, I wanted to lose way after

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Jade Li: you know, having kids, my body, I was at my heaviest weight that had ever been. I wasn’t happy with it. So I was like, I’m gonna start to, you know, really focus on myself. So I started to eat right workout. And so I lost like 45 pounds. And I was like I have to get rid of all my clothes.

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Jade Li: cause like I can’t fit in these. And Brad’s like, Okay, he’s like, but don’t get rid of your underwear, and I’m like.

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Jade Li: why wouldn’t I get rid of my underwear? Like everything else? I donated my underwear. I was plan on just throwing away, and he’s like you can sell those. And I was like, What are you talking about? This is not a thing he’s like. Yes, it is. And he went and showed me, and he’s like, Look.

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Jade Li: you can sell your panties that I was like. Seriously, he’s like, Yeah, I was like, okay. So we started dabbling in that before we went full force into the lifestyle. So we were kind of doing that.

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Jade Li: And then it just started. You know, one thing after another was like, oh, can you do a video call with me? Oh, can you make a video for me? And it just started growing and growing and growing. And

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Jade Li: doing our lifestyle stuff, but keeping the 2 separate. But then we’re like, Oh, you know, we can kind of combine these 2 together to.

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Jade Li: we tried it for a long time, and it really wasn’t working well, trying to combine the the content creation with the lifestyle. So we went back to just keeping them completely separate, like we have our content that we make with people. And then we have our personal play that we make with people.

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Jade Li: Now we have lots of friends that are also in the lifestyle that make content. So there’s times that we will have times with them that we film it, and there’s times with that will have with them that we don’t film it but in that, besides those 2 crossing there, we keep them pretty. We keep them pretty separate cause that we think it’s better that way than trying to make it work so much meshing together.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay? And and why is that? Because, I have my thoughts on it, obviously. But I wanna hear your thoughts so like what’s like the biggest difficulty of combining strictly lifestyle with strictly content creation. Well, I find that. So when we were trying to find people to play with.

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Jade Li: and then also say, Oh, and, by the way, can we film this? If they weren’t familiar.

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Jade Li: The nose in around a filming. It’s a lot harder than it’s use, would it, that it thinks? I mean, it’s not just, you know, whipping it out and doing your shit. There’s a lot of like angles and lights, and just there’s a lot that goes into it. And we found that people that didn’t already make content. That was familiar with the ways. We couldn’t even use the film because it was terrible.

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Jade Li: So it was like, or they just didn’t understand. And it’s just yeah, it’s yeah. So we just were like, okay, 2 separate worlds. We have a personal play. And we have our content making.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, have you tried selling some of those videos where you think that? Okay, well, maybe the lighting wasn’t the best, or maybe the angles weren’t the best, because, like what I’ve seen, and it may surprise you. But a lot of people that are consumers of especially swinger porn, they like to see the just, the natural stuff, so it doesn’t have to be all like, you know, the perfect angles, cause II know exactly what you’re talking about

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Doc Chocolate BBC: when it comes to angles. But like.

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Jade Li: oh, shit. Okay, yeah. You guys should try selling it because, I’ve done polls. And I’ve you know, done tests. And people like, yeah, so like sometimes, what I’ll do a lot of times when I’m playing with my partners is because I

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I cause, I think most content creators will say this right that are in the lifestyle. They’ll say that. Can you hear all that background noise behind me

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Doc Chocolate BBC: not really. No, okay. They’re generally downstairs, but like I

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I think most people that are content creators and their license owners like us, they’ll say that they like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: having sex playing off camera more than on camera.

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Jade Li: Just because it’s like, Okay, well, when the cameras on you feel like you gotta perform, you gotta hit the angles. You gotta do this and that. And if you’re just, you know, playing you don’t have to worry about shit. You know, you just have fun. Yeah, definitely. See that? Yeah. Well, sometimes, too, when you’re filming, there’s lots of stop and go, too, like, Oh, I need a break, or, you know, like, Oh, I gotta, you know, grab a condom or something, or you know, whereas

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Jade Li: and so you have to turn off the cameras and stop it. And so it’s like, whereas personal plate, there’s not that stop and go as much.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And and I think cause like E, even in the play session that you, me and ill had. I don’t think that there was any stop.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, yeah, we do stuff at all. Because, Brad, yeah, Brad was filming. Yeah, Brad was filming, and I think it worked out really well, because, like all 4 of us

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Doc Chocolate BBC: know what to do. And you know we know how to have fun at the same time. And you know we’re just, you know, like II think we’re having more laughs than orgasms comes off so great on camera, too. It’s like, is you? Could you could feel you could see the connection in the friendship that we all had, and it was awesome. Exactly.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Exactly. And so so yeah, cause there’s a lot of people out there. They if they’re not in concentration, they think that. You guys are just constant creators. You’re just doing it for the money. And you know, you’re not real lifestyleers. And I’m like, No, that’s like, further from the truth. It’s like we’re just people that are in the lifestyle. And we’re probably more exhibitionist.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you know, in our nature. And you know. So we would film anyways, but because of the advent of you know, things like only bands and whatnot, we can make money off of it. Why not do it. Yeah. Why not do it?

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Jade Li: Well, I think a big part like it took a big boom during Covid when

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Jade Li: everybody was home. And it’s like, Oh, let’s film this. And oh, we can do that. And yeah, so I think there. But yeah, it’s like, why not? You love doing it? It’s like you love your job. Why, you know we’re lucky enough that we get to love our job and make money at what we do versus. Not

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Doc Chocolate BBC: exactly, exactly, and I will. I was taking videos personally before I got into all this. Honestly, I got videos from like back in 2017 2018. I wanna say, you know, some of them are kind of hot. So so, and when you start selling your panties like, what sites did you go through to sell your panties.

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Jade Li: At the time it was sniffer, and all things worn were the 2 main sites that I used.

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Jade Li: Now I don’t. I’m not on those sites. It’s in my menu on like my platforms that I sell it. I don’t do as many more as many like panties and things of that nature. But I still have a couple of people that reach out that that wanna.

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Jade Li: So when I started, it was snipper and all things worn.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay? And then you’re on like a bunch of different platforms. So you’re on only fans and fansly loyal fans, porn hub and all that. What do you. Are you doing this like full time or part time? Full time? Well, I’m a I’m a full time, mom, and then full time content. Creator. So yes, it’s a nonstop.

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Jade Li: I don’t. I don’t know how I get it done. Well, I know how I get done. Brad helps me a lot. He runs part of my pages. I’ve run the other parts. You know. So we do it as a team. But yeah, it’s full time for me.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay, great, great. And tell me, cause you go by. You’re obviously a hot wife. But but tell us about goddess. So like, what’s the difference between goddess versus hot wife.

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Jade Li: So we first went with Goddess because so like, I said, we actually came up with that before we were fully into the hot wife scene. So that’s how we first came up with the goddess part, like, you know.

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Jade Li: It’s perfect, I guess, so to speak, even though there’s perfect in the minds of everybody, is different which I love. So that’s why we went with the goddess part of it. And then, as I started to venture more into the hot life scene, we kind of started transitioning to the hot, wise name more than the goddess name. But we don’t want to go and change names on platforms

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Jade Li: that have been established. So we just kind of ride with both. Okay, okay, I got you. I got you. And then one last question, because I know you’ve got places to go.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: how? How do you keep this like secret from your family, or do you or like, how do you like

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Jade Li: Nope? So, Nope, they’re eventually gonna find out. So you might as well be the person that tells them.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay? Cause I mean, like, so like, my immediate family knows the family members. I wanted to know. I didn’t want them to go and discover me sometime. I told

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Doc Chocolate BBC: if there’s other family members that I don’t give to shits, if they know that’s fair enough. That’s fair enough. So alright. So we’re going to end this. But before we end this I want you, Jay, to give out your platforms again, because this is

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Doc Chocolate BBC: beautiful, gorgeous woman, and I know I say this with probably every woman I get on here. But is it just so happens that all the women that I connect with. They’re all beautiful and gorgeous, but like she is

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Doc Chocolate BBC: absolutely yummy. And III tell you all that from the experience. She is yummy, she said on my face for about 5, 10 min. So she yeah, III definitely speak from experience. She’s definitely so. Tell us tell us your platforms again and your website. And then I also want you to give a key piece of advice to

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Jade Li: in this podcast so okay. Okay, honestly, there’s so many platforms I’m on. It’s either

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Jade Li: hot wife, jade, Lee, or Goddess Jade Lee. if you go to my site it’s jade, Lee. So JADE. Li. Coco everything is on there. It’s all in one place. But like I’m only fans. I’m Hotwife jade, Lee, and I’m got Goddess Jade Lee.

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Jade Li: Minivids! I’m got it. Jade, Lee twitter. I’m Hotwife jade Lee. So it’s just hard to remember all the different ones. This is easiest if you go to Jade Co. Page.

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Jade Li: Thank you. We actually just redid it. Oh, nice, nice. Nice. Okay. II like it. Somebody got that Jayleecom? Huh?

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Jade Li: No, it’s available. We went with the.co. Before, because we wanted it to, not when trying to promote it on places of like tick tock. We didn’t want it to look like a.com. So that’s why we went.co.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, that’s probably what it is. Somebody probably like is like squatting on it. And they’re like, Oh, yeah, you can get have Jlycom for

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and or they’re in the lifestyle, but they are thinking of getting into contents.

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Jade Li: Yes, I mean for the lifestyle, the biggest thing that I always say is just communication.

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Jade Li: It it’s so simple, but so many people don’t know how to communicate properly. I tell people, Mike, you need to talk, and you need to talk. And then, when you think you’re done talking, you need to talk some more like there should never be a point in time, whether you’re not having an open conversation about anything and everything. So whether that’s just starting off in your life, not even to do with lifestyle, just with everything going on in your life.

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Jade Li: having that open communication, knowing that you can trust your partner to bring anything to your partner and not be judged that they’re gonna be empathetic and sympathetic towards how you feel. So that’s the biggest piece of advice I have is open communication, and your partner is always number one. Never put anything else above your partner, and those are the 2 biggest things I would say for advice, for getting into the lifestyle

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Jade Li: I would say that. It’s a process. It’s one of those things that you get out what you put in. So you know, you’re gonna only give it 50. Then you’re only gonna get 50 back. If that

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Jade Li: oh, I’m gonna do this for a couple of months that I’m gonna be, you know, rolling in the bit, you know. Money. It’s it’s a process. It’s a roller coaster ride. It’s an up, and it’s a down, and also what works for somebody might not work for you. So you have to play around with things and see what works for you. And then hopefully, you find it and you can roll with it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I love it. I love it. So that was like, why? Stage advice? Because, yeah, obviously, what works for me as a black male

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Doc Chocolate BBC: content Creator is gonna be way different than what works with you as the beautiful Asian female Creator. So III love that piece of advice. Jade. So so this has been the beautiful goddess, Jade Lee, and you can find her@jadelee.ceo, and if you own jade lead Dot.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and you’re selling it for $3,000, we hate you. No, we don’t but kick rocks, and

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Doc Chocolate BBC: yeah, very, very shitty, but I love. I love your business game, though so like that shit for excessive amounts of money. And Doc, chocolate. BBC, you guys can find me at bulls and queens.com, and then you can find my spicier stuff at Doc Chocolate, bbc.com. And so until next time, you guys, bulls and queens nation. Y’all stay sexy. You all be blessed.

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You guys support each other, make love and not war, and stay warm outside. If it’s like super super cold, so

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Jade Li: have a nice day. Bye, bye.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Hello, Hello, everybody. It is Doc. Chocolates. BBC, and I am coming at you with another episode of the bulls in the Queen’s swinger podcast experience.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And as I record this, it is actually the day before Thanksgiving, and we are happy. And we are ready for Turkey and ham and stuffing and all the fixings, and I know some of y’all ladies are out there. You guys are waiting to get stuffed.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and we’re not talking about stuffing.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: but you know, you you guys, I don’t know what to do with y’all. But anyways, I hope you guys got you ladies got stuff the guys are like, I don’t wanna get stuff. Well, some of y’all guys wanna get stuff, you know, that’s that’s an episode that we need to do. We need to do an episode about Peggy like my guests before I introduce y’all. Oh, shoot my female guest! She’s like raising up the roof like, is that a episode that we should consider doing in the future pegging.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, Mr. Guest.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: what are your thoughts on that? Oh, yeah. She she loves it. Okay, okay, III was looking at you, and it looked like you had the fear of God on your face. You’re like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: that’s surfing.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, shit. Okay, okay, we’re gonna we’re gonna talk about pegging. We’re gonna talk about pegging here in a moment. And so I’m going to introduce these 2 beautiful human beings that I have on the line here, and approximately 90 s. But before we get into this, you guys, I want you all to do a couple of things real, quick. I want you to go ahead and go to whatever podcast platform you’re listening to this on

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Doc Chocolate BBC: whether it is apple, spotify or Google.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and leave me a 5 star review. Let me know how much you love me. Hate me! Well, don’t tell me you hate me. If you’re listening to this. If you hate me, kick rocks, but if you love me, I love you too, and leave me. Apply. Serve you, please, make sure you also check out my only fans platform, and the link is at Bull’s, and queens.com

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Doc Chocolate BBC: bulls and queens.com. If you’re visiting Vegas, or you want to link up with me and have your wife go through a hot wife trainee day with Dot chocolates. Go to the website. Bullzing queens.com check out the links and you’ll be able to reach out to me, and we’ll talk alright. And without further ado I would like to introduce this couple.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So this couple is a cook holding couple, and I have to introduce them proper, like. So basically.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: their names are Dustin and Abby and Abby is a 43 year old, mother of 4. She’s been divorced twice, and since her last divorce was determined to live life to the fullest in every way possible. She’s been in the lifestyle for 11 months with her cuck Dustin.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: who introduced her to Cuckoldey.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: She actually had her very first in person, cuckolding experience on their first dates. Oh, my God!

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Doc Chocolate BBC: He’s been in the lifestyle, Mister Dustin, for over 20 years looking for his queen, and was about to give up before finding her.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: They couldn’t be happier, and every day they’re growing as a couple more and more all while exploring more things with a cuckolding lifestyle. So, Dustin Abby, how y’all doing?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Great

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Doc Chocolate BBC: awesome, awesome. So, Dustin, I gotta ask you.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: did you find your queen?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, yeah. And then some oh, man, and there’s some I love it. I love it. And, Abby, you’re a mother of 4.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you don’t look anything like that. How? How did you get your body so tight.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: OO, okay, you guys, if you guys haven’t haven’t seen her, she got a tight body.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Thank you. What happened?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Just getting a workout.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And so the funny thing is like me and her. We’re talking. All 3 of us were talking, and we’re actually the exact same age. I’m like 2 weeks older than her. So I was telling her, and joking with her, that, hey? I’m your eldest, so you gotta respect me.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and if she was like, fuck you. I’m gonna peg you. And I was like, Yes, ma’am, II apologize. So all right. So let’s get started, you guys, I mean, I first heard of you guys on my good friend, the lovely Venus caca dress, podcast. And such a lovely woman saw her a couple of weeks ago as flash Moka Houston shout out, and I was like listening to you guys

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Doc Chocolate BBC: as I was recovering from Covid, and I still got a little bit of sniffles and whatnot, and I’m doing my walk, and I’m listening. And I have seen you

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you guys on her

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Doc Chocolate BBC: twitter feed, I believe, for about a week or 2, and I was like, Okay, let me check this out. And then I was listening to it. And I was like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I like this, I like this, I gotta have from up podcast. Right? So like I went on, Twitter or X, whatever the hell is called. And I was like, oh, we already follow each other. Yay.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: so like I was like, Come on my, podcast and then I was looking at your videos and pictures. And then I was like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, okay, I want you on more than just the podcast. I want you on me, too. But hey, okay, I’ll I’ll just say, not not every hot wife is hot. But II didn’t say that, but so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so give us, like the 4 1 one on

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Doc Chocolate BBC: how you all got into this cuckolding relationship, and how your journeys intersected with each other.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well, we met on a dating app, on like a kink dating app. so kind of was easy an easy transition into cuckolding. So

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I kind of told em from the get go like I don’t want to be monogamous.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and I think he had in his profile something about cuck holding which I had no clue about, like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I kinda thought I was kinky, but I had no clue. What was out there in the world. And so he sent me Venus’s. Podcast and he was like, Hey, listen to this girl. She has a podcast about cuckolding. And so I started bingeing it. And I was like, Wow.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: she makes this sound beautiful. And so

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I started. He, you know, I was already dating around, and he’s like, keep doing what you’re doing just

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: include me. So I just kept dating, and we hadn’t actually met yet.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So I was still dating other people and just sending him pictures of me with other people until we actually met in person.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And then on our first date, we decided. or I decided I’d test him and see like if he was really serious about it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, man! So you tested him to see if he was really serious about it, and II already know the story so obviously I cheated. I listened to your your interview with Venus, but

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Doc Chocolate BBC: tell everybody what happened.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So we decided to meet, and we ended up, you know.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: hooking up for our first, you know, hooking up together.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But then I was like, Okay, we’re gonna go to the sex club because there’s Sex club locally sex club locally. So I’ve been talking to another guy. And I was like, Hey, we’re gonna be at this club if you want to meet us there? And he is. He said he was in the lifestyle, too, so he’s familiar with it.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So we go to the Sex club and this other guy, and I just start making out and Dustin just bush pushing people out of the way like trying to see and try to get in there. And I was like, Okay, like, he’s serious. Because I you know, I I’ve been with very jealous partners before Dawson. So I didn’t really believe that he was actually going to be comfortable with it.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So it’s it’s really kind of a test for me, cause that, especially at that point, because

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: we had met. So to me, I was like, well, he’s just getting free porn at this point, like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: he doesn’t really care about me. So like at this point. He doesn’t really, it doesn’t really matter.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So but once we, you know, we are developing more of a connection before we met. And then we actually met, we really were having feelings for each other. So then, to see it in person that he actually cared, and he was into it.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: At the club, and then we ended up taking the guy back to our hotel room, and I ended up having sex with the guy, and he was in his cage because I had him, whereas caged out that night.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So he was caged up, which was a new thing for him, cause he was like. Oh, no! What to do with my hands like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: oh, man! So we take the guy back to the hotel room and have fun. I had fun. Well, I’m sure. Doesn’t have fun, too. Right?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: It was a blast.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: That was our first. you know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay, like, okay. So with this guy in the hotel room, I mean, you gotta give me the nitty gritty. II wanna hear the details. I’m not in a cage. So I

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Doc Chocolate BBC: like, like, Give me like the 30 s overview. I wanna get my free port into.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well, it wasn’t the best experience as far as a bowl.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: it that

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I’m sorry. I’m sorry that also very bad experience for you, Abby.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well, it it wasn’t very bad, because we give him kudos that he actually followed through with everything. It’s just that he couldn’t perform very well. He wasn’t very big, and it’s

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: he was nervous, but he actually followed through. He was aggressive and and was kissing her right away in the club. So it was super hot, and when we got to the hotel room

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I was expecting like fireworks, and I could tell immediately, not even really knowing her, that it wasn’t the greatest. But give him kudos, that he was there all the way, trying his best. So yeah, yeah, I think it was nervous. And so he was having a hard time like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: performing. So there was issues with that. So it wasn’t the best experience

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: in that regard. But like we’ve we’ve talked about a million times like he went through with everything like he was comfortable. And like all this scenario, so like we got to experience what it was like to do it

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: like in the same room. And like. I mean, it wasn’t like he couldn’t ever perform. He just struggled like it was just kind of a struggle like. so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so was it kinda like it was like kind of intermittent. Where, like, you know his Dick would get hard, and then it’ll get soft, and then we’ll get hard.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah, yeah.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: yeah. So I couldn’t really get into it like I couldn’t really get into it, and it wasn’t really somebody that I would normally like take home. It was more like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I wanted to do it for the experience kind of situation. I was more like.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: take one for the team a little bit.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Was it like a physical thing which was kind of like a deterrent for you, or was it like like a mental thing, or both, or

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah, I wasn’t super attracted to him, but I liked the fact that he was comfortable with the situation.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: okay, I got you. I got you, and then chime in on that dusty W. What were your thoughts? So you up here, you got this beautiful lady at your side, you meeting here for the first time, and then, you know she gets you shocked. She’s like, Hey, Bro, this cage? You’re on your Dick.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And you guys, Justin, hey? I can tell just by looking at him sitting down. He’s a pretty stully built man, you know. This man knows his way through a gym. You know. He knows how to do some overhead presses and got some bulk there. So you know, he’s a man’s man. So you got this cage kind of looks like Goldberg. Actually, now that I’m looking at him. But like.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Went to a hotel, take over. And he was told that there that he was intimidating.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And I have to say about the case thing. He’s pretty well inbound, too, so like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: the guy we took home from the Sex club. I think it was intimidated by that, because even at his cage you could tell he’s really big. So with this, I was a bull for many years, because my career had me gone every other year.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I have that point of view. So I’m watching this guy. I’m actually critiquing in my head and like, what are you doing? Like sound? That’s not what bulls do. But it’s his first time, I’m thinking. So have fun. But she hand me that, and we talked about it. So I thought it was hot, because, being well in doubt. I never fit, and it actually hurts quite a bit painfully, not the fun way. So we headed on for

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: in the club why give him kudos is. I was talking to this dude. I turned around and she’s on this guy’s lap. She meant making out with him. I was like, Oh, hell, yeah, like this.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Most women are so scared. And that dude I’m talking, he goes, you know, this guy might know. And he goes. I said, no way. I like to watch my girl fuck other dudes like what, and it’s shocked. And she heard me say that, cause II don’t care like I’ve been this lifestyle long enough. You’re in a 6, but it’s not weird. And

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: so it was fun. It was fun watching her make out, and both of us would finger he’d take her back to the curtains, and I’d sit next to them all those who are making out, and it was super super fun and super hot, and then we went back to the hotel. Now I was expecting fireworks, and I watched him, and then he waved it. I was like, Oh, boy.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Youtube, video or something. But no. it it it was super odd it because of just getting to know her and starting a date or end our first date. That was just hot, no matter what. Yeah, it was a great experience, even with all the bad stuff. Honestly.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Le, let me ask you this, would you guys give him a second chance, you know, like knowing this is his first time, or oh, no.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I didn’t.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And Bro.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I’m sorry

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I tried. I tried to fight for you. If you listen to this, Bro. I’m sorry you get them next time. Tiger. Alright. So you.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Dustin, has you started off as a bull, and you’ve been in the lifestyle for 20 years. Is that correct?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah. So like, what got you into the lifestyle initially?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well, being in the current was every other year. You can’t date somebody and have a relationship.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So I figure. Well, what better way to have fun actually well endowed I learned about from Craigslist personals. God bless Craigslist, Rip Craigslist! Personal!

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: That was painful to see that go in. But yeah. yeah, no, that was super fun. But when I first got the inkling of

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: like the cuckold side that’s watching Boogie nights in 2,001,

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and the husband walks in and the wife is railing. That young dude is like, what are you doing? She’s like, get outside. Wait for me. I was like, that’s the hottest trick ever, and I thought, what is wrong with me like? Why does that turn me on what is so hot about that, but it always stuck with my head, but because, being a bull, I was having fun all the years, but like I told her, and you probably heard before

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I enjoy being a bull. But then, when I’m done, those 2 are makin out, and they’re all hot, and they’re all Lovey Dovey, and I’m goin home.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and I’m just chilled out by myself like, Hey, that was fun. But now I’m alone again. And so the more I got into life the more I saw the beauty and the cuckolding side. And then, yeah, II love being able, but I don’t want to do it for 40, 50 years and still be alone.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: You know II really enjoy having her, and plus having that tackle desire back in my head and meeting someone like this that she craves this lifestyle like I’ve never seen anything like it like I knew I was into like within 11 months. She’s like S,

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: just on a rocket ship, and she can’t get enough of it. She’s now a size queen, so the first guy has no chance ever again like.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and I make fun of her because she choose normally smaller than me. So I’m like, Well, don’t be disappointed after this one again, but we we have a lot of fun with it. And how big would you say, you are?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: 9 by 6.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay? So so yeah, yeah, you you you over there packing a missile yourself. You got some right there. How do you put that in the cage?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah, it’s it’s it’s it’s worth it.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Cold showers, ice trying not to think, and then we try and put it on. You’re thinking

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: so. It’s like a struggle for a good half hour

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Doc Chocolate BBC: right now is Abby is like, just like banging her hand into the other hand, like, yeah, we gotta jam this thing in

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: yeah. And then she can send me cages that are smaller and like this is not physically possible. Physics will not allow this gonna work. It’s gonna work like Abby is a determined woman. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so, Abby. you

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Doc Chocolate BBC: just got into the lifestyle 11 months ago. Is that correct? Yes.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay. So can you tell us a story of obviously, you were in 2 previous marriages before you met Dustin. And

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I guess that kind of led you into this life of non monogamy. Right? Cause that’s all. Non monogamy. So like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: how did that like end up going like, how did that flow for you?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well, I mean I didn’t. I don’t know that I was trying to be like in a ethical, non monogamous relationship. But

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I knew I didn’t want to settle down. Basically, I was like, I’m just gonna live my life. And whatever you know, I’m never getting married again, basically, cause it was traumatic. But I was. But then, whenever

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and I, when I was dating, I mean, that gets lonely, cause you’re like, it’s fun to have all this fun. But you don’t have anyone to confide in. You don’t have that confidant person. So then I was starting to get lonely, not having that, you know, cause I’ve been divorced for about 2 and a half years.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So that I was starting to get a little bit lonely. The fun is great, but it was getting a little lonely. And then when we met, I mean, I still didn’t wanna be monogamous?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But Then, when we start connecting, it was so nice. It was so nice to have someone to like. talk to and confide in and start have feelings for again.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and then I started bingeing Venus. And then I just started, I don’t know finding podcast and podcast and he’s like a

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: telling me all these things that he likes. And so I just started like listening to all this stuff I’m like I I was built for this

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: idea that all this lifestyle stuff was even around like there’s a sex club like not even far from my house. I didn’t even know was there.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So I had clue about any of it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, wow! I love it. It’s

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Doc Chocolate BBC: that. Yeah. Isn’t it crazy? How things happen? It’s like you’re not looking for something. And then something just like slaps you across ahead. And I’m not talking about a big Dick. And like, Is it? Isn’t that nuts?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah, yeah.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah. So I mean.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so so like, when when you got into this like, Are you

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Doc Chocolate BBC: black only? Or are you just big, hot

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Doc Chocolate BBC: only, or like, what’s your dynamic?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well, I mean, when I when I think we first started, I was just whatever I mean. I was just still dating other people

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and doing whatever I wanted. I mean.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I’m most. I’m trying more. III feel more comfortable doing mostly Black BBC, but

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: it’s hard in my area to find that it’s hard to find what I want honestly.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And then you have people that say their bulls that they really aren’t bulls. so it’s hard for me to be like super picky

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: so I kinda go for size like, oh, I can ex. I try to do BBC, only, but II like Latin, too. But I also want to go for size. So like I always want to picture.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But it has to be. I feel that like I’ve changed so much from the beginning to now, cause in the beginning like. That’s why I got that situation for the first night, like I was asking for pictures, and I wasn’t. People can make anything look like anything in picture like I can hold it at an angle. So now

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: it has to be with a ruler like measurements like people laugh at me, and they’re like, Are you kidding? I’m not doing that. I’m like, Okay, then you don’t need. I don’t need to waste my time, because I’ve been fooled so many times.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: That sounds bad, but I don’t know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: No, it it it it’s not because I’ll I was talking with a with a lady friend of mine, and yesterday night, actually and

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Doc Chocolate BBC: II was telling her, you know, like the difference between guys and a woman in the lifestyle or in general, is that us guys? For the most part, we’re simple to satisfy for the most part. And so, you know, we we we really care. We don’t really care that much, you know. But y’all, woman

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you would are very, very like, hey? He needs to be this he needs to be that if his ear lobe is a millimeter off center but a. And I was telling her I said as it should be, you know, because, you are, you know. So supply and demand thing, you know. And so you should be, very, very selective.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah, selected.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: especially like, Oh, selective on like somebody new. But like. if it’s somebody that someone says, Hey, this person’s a great person like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I don’t need all that. I don’t need all the stuff, you know, pictures and all that like. If somebody says, Hey, this person is a good person like Great.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I don’t need all that, but I get so many messages from people it’s hard to like. We do it, you know. But she also went through a big learning curve, because in the beginning, after our first date, it was like a kidney candy store. And I was just like this crazy Christmas. There was guys like 3 different guys a week off that website.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But they weren’t in the lifestyle. They were looking at hooking up. But when she started bringing in the lifestyle. They were like getting freaked out, and

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: he’s black, and I’ve always liked the black aspect, but not for the race of the color. But the fact of the attitude

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: because a lot of race wanna fall in love with her. They wanna carry off. And Mayor every time is savvy several cuckle relations before this, and that’s what I learned. I’m like, I’m tired of the drama.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: like all my black friends that I learned to lifestyle

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: awesome attitude. I love it feel cooler on them. They know exactly what’s going on. So during her first few weeks after starting, she kept

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: finding guys that were definitely not as big as they said they were. They definitely weren’t bowls. They would start talking the world. Why would you want to do this list? I want you come with me, and I was like, Oh, my God! Dude like that’s we told you upfront so. She’s had a steep, but

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: over time, I told her, and she’s learning herself the little hints and the red flags. And now she’s great at it. She’ll be like this dude’s fake cause, like, Oh, yeah. yeah, I’ve had some really bad experiences like one of my

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: well, probably one of my best sexual experiences with a bull.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: He doesn’t. He didn’t want dust in there.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: but Dustin wasn’t available. So he’s like, Oh, yeah, he can. He can come like II definitely wanted there just not the first time. But he wasn’t available the first time, and it was a really hot.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: It was a really hot hook up!

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But then he never would want to be available. If Dustin was available. It started to be like this sneaky thing he wanted to do.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And you see, and he was

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: like I felt in the beginning. I haven’t told her. As I don’t care for this guy, he seems off. And then she found out later on he was totally off.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Davis was trying to be like sneaky around. So I feel like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I’ve had a hard learning curve and like trying to weed out the guys that wanna try to like sneak in there, you know.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Yeah, yeah.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And I mean this pretty terrible that people like that, you know. And but I think it’s th. Those were mostly the guys that were non lifestyle. Is that correct? The ones that were like trying to be kind of sneaky, like.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: yeah. But they they say, like you meet them on the lifestyle website. So you think they are.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But then, when you actually start.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: you know doing things, or, you know, hooking up and stuff, you realize they really aren’t.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: They’re just pretend. And so that’s hard for me.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, I got you. I gotcha. So yeah, that’s terrible. Because the one thing I’ve learned about being in the lifestyle. I’ve been in the lifestyle for about 7 years and

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Doc Chocolate BBC: there’s definitely boundaries that need to be respected.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you know, and adhere to.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: And you know, I mean it kind of works for me. I’ve been married for going on 20 plus 20 years

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Doc Chocolate BBC: next month and

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Doc Chocolate BBC: the. The. The one thing that I think is beautiful about people that are really in the lifestyle is that there’s, you know, trust and respect and and honor code

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and on both sides. So

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Doc Chocolate BBC: but I think that it’s good. You know, you guys have really really good communication between the 2 of you guys. And you guys talk back and forth. And you know, you know, desktes over here like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Man Abby, I don’t like that dude something about him. I just don’t like him, you know, and you know that quite voice where you’re like, you gotta listen to it.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah. But sometimes I mean most of the time he’ll let me just figure it out on my own. He’ll be like.

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Cuckoldress Abi: I think there’s a red flag. But do what you want. You’re the boss like you’re the boss like.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: but I don’t know. I have a bad feeling, but you’re the boss, so he just let me figure it out so.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and then, whenever I do, he’ll be like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I’m not trying to say that I told you so, but

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I told you so

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Doc Chocolate BBC: alright. Then I love that I love that. So let me ask you guys

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Doc Chocolate BBC: this. what’s

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you guys have been together 11 months so far, is that correct. Okay, what’s the hottest experience

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Doc Chocolate BBC: you guys have had?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Good for that.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: It was his birthday.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I it was our first I did first buy situation on him, and that was probably our hottest

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: situation. I surprised him with that. I didn’t tell it was gonna happen, and he had to eat his birthday cup take off his off my bowls junk. Oh, shit!

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Hello there

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: it was! It was an experience

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: when I saw the cupcake in the truck. I was like, Whoa! No, I kinda had an idea I was like, Oh, son of a bitch. He thought I was gonna get cream pie on top. So he was relieved when he just had to eat it off there.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay. But

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: that came later that that came later. Shit?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, shit. So you you you had the chocolate first, and then you had the cream pie at the end. What? There’s a cream pie on the brownie.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: well, shit. How was, how? How was that whole experience?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I would say it wasn’t

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: like, I’m game for whatever she wants to do like I don’t.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I’m definitely not in the man, but I enjoy her cuckolding, her power, her dominance. I love that so I’m getting for there she wants to do. But

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: it was an experience it was. There’s moments in there that I was like I was underneath her, and he’s bounding her from behind. And

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and the balls get hit me in the forehead the whole time.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: 100,000 times in a day before. There’s a lot of experience that I just did not expect there was hot that she made me do it. The actual act it was, I guess, for me was just

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: kinda even I wasn’t like, Oh, my God, this is so extremely hot. But I wasn’t grossed out, either. It’s just

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: since she wants to do it, and it turns her on. That turns me on. So yeah, well, I mean, we’ve talked about all these situations we wanted to try. We’ve never tried, been able to or tried, or had a bow that was comfortable sometimes.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and like with him being under me while I’ve been with a bull behind me. We’ve always wanted to try that. And so he did that, too, that night.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and then afterwards, he’s like, bring a helmet to the party.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: It it it real quick, you guys.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I didn’t get your your social media. So tell the listeners

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Doc Chocolate BBC: what is your social media, your twitters and your only fans.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Shoot

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: it is. Let’s see cook at Cook Dustin, and at Cuckoldress Abby

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: on Twitter.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And then yeah.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: got it. And how about your only fans?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And my only fans is

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Cuckoldress Abby?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And it’s like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: it’s linked there on my twitter.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Alright! Beautiful, beautiful! Yo make sure if you’re not driving. If you are driving, come to a stop.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: take off your phone and go to only fans and subscribe to Miss Cuck holders, Abby. So cuckolders Abby

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Doc Chocolate BBC: join her stuff because she is fine, and you’re probably gonna wanna see your little adventures that she has with these big, huge cocks. So like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta check it out. You know, she’s like doing this thing with the arm. She’s like the bigger the better, you know. Like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: yeah, what’s what’s the biggest hockey you’ve ever had?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well, his so far, because I can’t. I’m having to. This is raising the roof.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I know, and we gotta break this confidence. I’m tired of hearing about it. I’m always there for after care, so she won’t. She’s disappointed.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: We had a okay. Okay. So like I,

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I thought I was big, right like, when I first got lifestyle, I thought I was big. I’ll go to these parties, and you know love times will be these new pool parties, and I’d be like, Yeah, and I feel good. Right then I got into the porn world, and I was like.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Dave.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: life sucks like, okay, it’s kinda like like football, right? You could be a badass in high school, a bad ass in college, and then you get to the pros, and you’re like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: God damn! I’m not shit.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and that’s what I feel like I feel like

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Doc Chocolate BBC: man cause some of these dudes are like 11 inches 12 inches, and they’re like thick. And I’m like.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Oh, I feel very, very. I need to put my Dick in a cage. Don’t get me wrong. I would die to see her with that. So it’s it’s a joke I always give her. But no like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I die this year with one of those, but

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Doc Chocolate BBC: they’re hard to find. Well, and also like I’m like, I don’t want to talk out my butt like cause I want to say, like, I want big, big. But I’m like, Can I take it like I need to? I need a practice more. Well, you know the vagina is very stretchable. And

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Doc Chocolate BBC: oh, that. Yeah, yeah. You come up to Vegas, and there’s

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I can introduce you to a few

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Justin over a lot of care.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Alright. So tell us about Peggy.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So we were talking about pegging before we started recording what’s up with that

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I love it. Yeah, he he told me that he, you know, was into it, and that

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: like with me, things that

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: like he’ll say, Hey, what about this and that. First, I’ll be like, I don’t know. And then the more I think about it, I’m like, okay, like the force. 5 thing. I was very like, I don’t know. And then, like, Oh, yeah, hell, yeah, let’s try it, you know. So I was kind of the same way with the pegging. So I do my thing. I start binging podcasts and listening to it. I’m like, okay, I think you can do it. So then I listen to a bunch of stuff and

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: tried it, and I was like, holy shit. This is Badass. I feel so powerful.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I’m like, let’s line them up. I’ll pay whoever who wants pay, I’ll pay a bunch of people. Oh, Dale, you got shit! You got a dick you got a dick, and you’re like, Hey.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: yeah, I just loved it. And just seeing what it does to him. Yeah.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: it was amazing. I loved it.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: How big is the the dildo or the

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Dick, almost strap on that. He’s a weenie

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: 7 and not very thick.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Okay, okay.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: did you have a hard time like getting on rhythm? Because I know a lot of women I talked to in the past that have like done it before. They’re kinda like, there’s 2 typical things that they say they’re like, wow! You guys, I commit you guys, I didn’t know it was this hard to thrust into fuck somebody. That’s number one, and then number 2. They’re like, it was hard for me to get rhythm.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: It was hard again. It was hard to get in the right position. Like to get in the right like position with my hip, like with the

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: with my legs, and like to get in the right word. We go in the right way.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But I didn’t have a problem with the rhythm. I didn’t feel like, did you? I mean?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But no, he said, I look like I was in a trance. I was like this? Is she start sweating, her eyes just glaze over. And it’s like this can be a long ride. literally.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Oh, shit.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Okay. But

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: what happened?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: He quits before I do. Every time you’ll be like, okay.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: She made you tap out Dustin.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Oh, she will, so she can do it for hours.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, Dale, okay, so like, Hey, this is just for myself. Ish, like myself is right. I wanna I wanna see the rhythm you have. You guys give me like 5 s of this, this rhythm that you have when you have the oh, yes!

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Oh, yes! Oh, yes, there you go! There you go, hey? She a she a she’s going like she’s writing a bronco. She had the air scrolling it like she had her little cowboy hat in her head. Alright, alright!

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I wouldn’t be surprised if I saw some

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Doc Chocolate BBC: picking videos on your only fans? Or is there already picking videos on your only fans?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yeah, there is. Yeah.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: No, – we’re not on there yet. Is it? Better?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: it is. There’s a few things out we’ll talk privately. I’ll get you right. I’ll get you right? So yeah, yeah, keep all doing your peg and thing, you know, freaking love it. And so like. What is next in the journey for you guys like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: what’s next, Babe?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well. we started doing some paperwork

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: yesterday for a possible marriage.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I’m counting my days of freedom. I could say it all right. That is.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I happen to early on. I’m like, Hey, it’s pretty hot, you know. The cuckolding ceremonies are those cuckolding, you know, after the wedding she gets bred by the bowls, and she’s like, Oh, my God! It’s so hot! I was like, Oh, shit like I didn’t expect that much acceptance. So now that’s all she talks about. And

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: so, when it does happen, that night will be

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Doc Chocolate BBC: all her and her bowls, and I’ll be there with the towels and water. That’s beautiful. It’s kind of like a Venus is a fantasy cause. She is a fantasy when she gets married that she’s gonna have like a a gang bang with all of her like best bulls that she loves. And her husband.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Yes, yeah, I heard her say that. And I’m like, that’s awesome. And he’s like, when we talked about it. I was like, we started there. We started our relationship coupling. It only is right that we get married as a cut wedding like it would be weird if we didn’t. So

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and we don’t. We’ve both been married before, so we don’t want a actual wedding.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: So we something with our kids like us, something with our kids. But we want to do the paperwork and then plan a cux ceremony, and then later, do something with our kids.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I love it. I love it. and wise and you can answer this or not. Don’t answer it. But like, I mean, do they kind of know what’s going on? Are they in the dark? Or

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: no, we’re not gonna tell our kids. And we’re gonna do the cux ceremony like first, and just have it between us.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: And then tell our kids later.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay, okay, I got you. I got you, you know, like the craziest thing is like, you know, like you try these things for your kids like they always find out shit like I have a 14 year old. And he was looking through my old phone he saw some saw, saw some of Dad’s nasty ass videos and pictures like that.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: but the fuck

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: stay out of a grown man’s phone.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Exactly. Yeah, shit.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I guess in hindsight, looking at the glasses half full.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: At least he knows what he’s gonna inherit when he comes of age.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: So alright. So it was a pleasure having you guys on board oh, no! Hold on a sec. One real quick question.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Abby, would you ever let?

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Doesn’t have a hall past?

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: I don’t know.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Probably not.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Probably not. I thought about this question. Actually, because some days. I’m like, maybe, depend on who it was.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Okay.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: But then I’m like, could I handle it? ’cause I’m not him. Depends on the day.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Catch me on there.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: That’s not the right day. I might. but he says he doesn’t want one.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Alright. She’s like, as long as you catch me on the date. That doesn’t end in Hawaii. Then I’m good.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Well, they II had so much fun the last 20 years between being a bull and a cocktail. I know exactly where I what I want, where I belong, and

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: they they wouldn’t even I have no desire to do with anybody else like this is exactly what I’d look for.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: That’s beautiful. I got a gun to his back, and the Prom. The problem is, all the women that I think are really hot that I would like a chance are all cuckolds. So it’s like.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so that doesn’t work out at all. Oh, man, yeah, I mean is so unique. I mean, just seen the whole dynamic. Because I even with this, podcast you guys, I learned so many different things about different people’s lifestyle and the demographic, and what they like. And even, let’s say, within the niche of cuckolding.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: there’s sub niches, and there’s literally literally dozens, if not hundreds of variations of how you can cuckold, you know. And you know, I’m seeing new things every day. And like, I’m like, Wow.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: so so I commend, you guys, I commend you guys, and y’all make sure y’all invite little old Doc chocolates to the wedding. I wanna

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Doc Chocolate BBC: yeah.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: yeah.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: don’t pick my ass, though.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Alright. So this has been cuck holders, Abby, and cut Dustin, and you can get at them on their twitter or ex accounts, whatever they want to call it nowadays. So Miss Cute, beautiful Abby. She is at Cuckoldis.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: Abby. and that’s a B. As a boy I,

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and then Dustin is at Cuck Dustin.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: and then, only fans is gonna be onlyfanscom slash cock, Holdress Abby, y’all make sure y’all go out there and

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Doc Chocolate BBC: join her stuff and all that. Goodness. And Abby, doesn’t. I want you all to give

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Doc Chocolate BBC: couple words of encouragement or advice to a couple out there, cause there’s a couple out there. Maybe there’s a guy out there, maybe even a lady, and they’re considering getting into the cocoing lifestyle. But they don’t know where to start. They don’t know where it’s going to lead to. They don’t know if this is like weird or crazy, like what

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Doc Chocolate BBC: key pieces of advice would you give them

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: from my standpoint is? I’ve made all the mistakes that every cock is made many, many years ago, trying to control the situation. Have her do what you want her to do, which totally self defeats being a cog. And then, you know, trying to live what you see online.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Once you just give up control and let her have her freedom and led her

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: enjoy it all. It becomes crazy, awesome. So I would say, let go the control and let her have her freedom, and it gets way better.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: and I would say, Be super careful with who you pick as a bowl like, be more, picky, take your time, and don’t be like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: super excited about like

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: finding someone. Take it.

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Cuckoldress Abi & Cuck Dustin: Take more time and picking somebody, I would say, that

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Doc Chocolate BBC: beautiful, beautiful! I love that

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Doc Chocolate BBC: wise words. And you guys until next time. This is Dot Chocolate with bulls and queens. You guys make sure that you encourage each other, love each other because tomorrow’s not promise to anybody. Peace of God bless you all! We’ll see you all on the next episode.

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Doc Chocolate BBC: I.

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