153 | Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers (Kathy Kay)

[00:00:02] Speaker A: What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Bulls and the Queens podcast and I am your show host, Doc Chocolate, your favorite white guy with a white voice. [00:00:16] Speaker A: Sounding. Hey, hey. I sound black. [00:00:22] Speaker B: I don't sound like me either. Don't worry. [00:00:25] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, yeah. We're going to introduce this other lady that's on the podcast here momentarily. [00:00:32] Speaker C: You are now listening to the Bulls and Queens podcast where we have sexy fun, exploring the lifestyle and swinging exploits of black bulls, queens of spades, cuckold fantasies, open relationships, seductive interracial encounters, and other kinky shenanigans that are sure to get you off in a very good way. So get ready, ladies, and make sure you take notes, gentlemen, because here is your host, that super sexy, bald black man, Candy D. Chocolate. [00:01:38] Speaker A: But I'm also here with my co host, Fun Charlie. How you doing today, girl? 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If you love my show, just love it. You don't have to say something bad. Yeah. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Yes, yes. Okay, so. So, okay, beautiful female guests who we cannot see. We need to take a really quick picture, so go ahead and pose. [00:02:50] Speaker B: Oh, I'm just gonna post. Okay. [00:02:52] Speaker A: Here. [00:02:52] Speaker B: No, I'm just joking. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Hold that book. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:02:54] Speaker D: Okay. Oh, it's upside down. [00:02:56] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Oh, you gotta show this. [00:02:58] Speaker B: No, there we go. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Gotta hold it down to the side. There you go. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:04] Speaker A: Beautiful. All right, so the lady that we have is. Her name is Kathy K. Of the Strictly Anonymous Confessions Podcast. [00:03:23] Speaker A: And I'm going to act somewhat professional and give you an introduction, if that is okay with you, Ms. Kathy K. I love it. [00:03:30] Speaker B: I love relaxing and letting you do all the work. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Right. Look, you have interviewed like 20,000 people. So I figured a pillow princess today and let us do the work. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Totally. I love it. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Yes. So Kathy K. Is a content creator and a host who started the highly acclaimed Strictly Anonymous Confessions podcast 11 years ago. Amassing over 900 episodes, she was driven by an innate sense of curiosity, a genuine desire to help people with their problems and and an unwavering commitment to non judgmental support. Kathy embarked on this remarkable podcasting journey and one interesting aspect of her bio lies in her own secret life. Her podcast. With an air of intrigue, she has successfully maintained anonymity, concealing her identity from not only her listeners, but also her own family and closest friends. She is the female form of Batman. She is. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Yes. [00:04:34] Speaker A: This carefully crafted mystique adds a unique allure to the Strictly Anonymous Confessions brand that she's built over the years. Drawing from her background in entertainment as a talent booker, Kathy possesses a tenacious work ethic and an uncanny ability to accomplish goals with unwavering determination. These qualities have been instrumental in consistently building her podcast to to secure top positions on itunes, well, Apple now and Spotify charts, all while remaining anonymous. Is that fair? A fair introduction of you, Ms. Kathy. [00:05:14] Speaker B: K. I love it. Who the fuck wrote that? I think I did. I don't know. It's good you did. [00:05:20] Speaker A: I mean, you did such a great job writing that shit. Yeah, right. My bio. [00:05:24] Speaker D: It was so long ago. [00:05:26] Speaker A: Right. And so you guys make sure you check her out. We, myself and Charlie have been on Kathy's Strictly Anonymous Confessions podcasts multiple times in the past. I have had Kathy on this podcast once a few months ago, and today we are actually going to talk about her first book launch. This is your first book launch, right? [00:05:52] Speaker B: Yeah, first and maybe only. I make a joke, like if anyone ever came to me again with like a book advance, I'd be like, I'll pay you to not give me a book deal. So hard. It was like one of the hardest things I've ever done in my whole life. You know, there's a lot to it. It's like took like a year and a half, but it's like with a real publisher and everything. But I'm very proud of it and I'm very happy I did it. It was definitely, you know, a fun experience, but difficult. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Love it. I love it. So tell us a little bit about the book, Kathy. Like, what is the name of the book? What's it all about? Give us the four. One, one. [00:06:25] Speaker B: So it's called Strictly Anonymous Confessions because that's really what it is. The Tagline is secret sex lives of total strangers. That's what I do on my show. But on my show it's like me interviewing people, you know, and sometimes because I'm a chick, I talk in circles and I go all around the place. And I'm not really just interviewing, I'm having conversations. But by the end of an hour on my show, I typically get somebody's whole life story. If you want Dr. Chocolate's whole life story, Charlie's whole life story, which are fucking fascinating, go to my show. You're going to hear them tell it and I'm going to get all the details. But you know, like I said, I go around and about. So what I did for the book is I took like 17 stories. It just wound up that way because of the amount of pages. But like I took one from each category. What I have in my show, right? And I told them in the third person, you know, my show isn't just a light. Like my show is like, I don't know what the big umbrella is. Is it ethical, ethical non monogamy, is it the lifestyle? I don't know what that bigger umbrella is, but I do. I talk to everyone underneath it, right? Like I talk to swingers, I talk to cuckles, I talk to hot wives, I talk to lesbians, I talk to, you know, gay men, I talk to by guys, I talk to it all. It's not very niche, right? So I wanted to. I decided to pick out like every category. The one, the top 17 that people like to listen to, you know. And I picked a couple guests that I thought were super great, went out to them. Of course I had to get their approval. And once I did, what I did was I wrote that their story in like a third person format, as if somebody's sitting across from you and telling you their whole story. So what's cool, I think about the book is it sort of takes what I do on my show and puts it in a different way. But like, if you never heard the episode and read the story, what's cool, I think personally is that you could go and like listen and hear that actual person talk and now get their whole vibe and everything. So it's just a different, different way to do it. And I think it's super fun. And I mean, I know for me, like before I did my show, I didn't know that there were people like you guys doing what you guys do. I didn't know that guys wanted their girls to fuck other guys. Like, I didn't know any of these things. And I think there's still a lot of people out there that don't know it either. So, like, this book, the fact that it's going to be out in the public, like Simon Schuster's distributing it, it will be on Barnes and Noble. Like regular people, I think might stumble upon it. And these are not erotica stories. These are real. You know what I mean? I didn't make up these stories about a girl that had over 50 gang bangs. These are actual real people. So I think it will shock some people. But, you know, my show has always been here to say, like, this is what people do. Some people do it. You know, this is like real people doing real things, and they're pretty hardcore, which is fun. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, just looking at the back cover of your book, Kathy, I mean, you have everything from a devout religious couple who secretly opens up their marriage to a. And the ultimate hot wife. A grandmother who became a porn star in her 60s. [00:09:14] Speaker B: That's right. [00:09:15] Speaker A: Divorcee who found sexual freedom and swinging. An insatiable woman who has been in over 50 gang bangs. God. [00:09:24] Speaker B: Yeah. The gift that keeps on giving. Name Casey. She's been on my show many times. She really. You know, it's funny, my publisher, because I did more stories, right? And they picked and choose which they pick, and they want to throw out the 50 gang bang girl episode. I was like, there's no fucking way. [00:09:38] Speaker A: They wanted to throw that out. [00:09:39] Speaker B: Swear to God. I was like, there is no way for me. I have to tell you. And there's like a lot of gang bang facts in there. And, like, I was, like, fascinated by the gangbang facts. Like, I wanted to know, how is it set up? How do you pick the guide? Where do you do it? How do they line up? Who fluffs them? What the fuck goes on? Do you. You know all? And I feel like if I want to know, other people want to know, right? So I was like, there's no fucking way you could take out the gang bang girl with all these gang bang facts from my book. Okay, sorry. I fought for that one. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Pardon the interruption. If you're a cuckold gentleman, a stag, a voyeur, or maybe you're just a woman that likes to watch amateur BBC porn. If you are, I got a question to ask you. Do you want to follow Doc Chocolate's sexy ass adventures in playtime that I have with the most gorgeous hot wives, queens of spades, and milfs out there? Now, if you answered yes, then you want to go ahead and pause this episode right now and go to my website@bullsandqueens.com and subscribe to my free OnlyFans page. So that's going to be at bullsandqueens.com bullsandqueens.com and click that button that says OnlyFans. And what's going to happen is you're going to get free access to my personal collection of videos, pictures of my kinky lifestyle adventures in my playtime that I have with my friends with benefits. And you'll also be able to chat with me and the other fans and also do custom requests. And I am on there daily. So for free access to my only fans for a limited time only, you guys, I want you to go to Bulls and queens.com and click that link that says OnlyFans and join the fan club. I'll see you on the other side. Now back to this spicy episode. [00:11:47] Speaker B: That's a good one, of course, because you know what? The truth is, I had a woman on who created Afterglow, which is like porn made by women for women. And, you know, you tend to think you know her. You tend to think that lesbian porn is the biggest thing that women watch. But I don't know if it's the second or the first. But like, right up there with that is gang bang porn. Not to say that every woman's going to go out and have a gang bang, but it's a lot of them have a fucking fantasy about it. It is the number one fantasy for women, which I was surprised about when I heard that. So, you know, I think a girl has been in over 50. Most people are not going to be like that. She's the extreme. But you know what? She gave me all the gang bang facts that I wanted to know and she gave me a great story and it's in the book. [00:12:30] Speaker C: Wow. [00:12:31] Speaker A: What do you think of that? [00:12:32] Speaker D: I want to. I want to read. [00:12:33] Speaker B: You want to be at her now. [00:12:34] Speaker D: On the gang bang stuff? But yes, because. [00:12:38] Speaker D: I still have yet to have like a technical gang bang, even be gang bang. [00:12:43] Speaker B: What does that mean? How many have been the most guys? I've been sort of. [00:12:46] Speaker A: So. So. So for you guys, ladies listening, we did the quote unquote fingers, the two fingers. [00:12:52] Speaker D: Like a technical gang bang where all the guys are there for me. I've been in orgies where I've had multiple guys on me at a time. [00:12:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. [00:13:00] Speaker D: But nothing technically. But I've had multiple MFMs and being the only woman in the room or being the main woman in the room with a lot of dicks is insanely empowering. So I can totally understand running after this thing, you know. [00:13:12] Speaker B: And you know what I love about you saying that. And one of the interesting things for me about that episode is right after that, I did a poll on my Patreon just to ask people, like, because I know where she was coming from and I know what you just said is very true for women in a gangbang. But I want to show for my audience, like, what do you. Because I like the psychology behind things. I'm like, what do you think about the woman in the gambling? Do you see her in the position of power or do you see her in the position of like, weakness? And the guys are overpowering her. And by far a lot of people thought, oh, she's the weaker one because these guys are taking her. But no fucking way. This looks like a way for this girl Casey to sort of take back her power, to be in control, to do that. That's what she was doing at the gangbang. She was in the power position. And I think it's interesting because I think there, you know, maybe half the people out there would think the opposite. But not when you read her. Not when you read her story or listen to even Charlie just saying. No. You feel empowered by that, right? [00:14:07] Speaker D: Yes. [00:14:07] Speaker B: No. [00:14:08] Speaker D: When I, in my. In the beginning of my journey into what I liked sexually after my divorce. Yeah, absolutely. I was like, why the hell would anybody, why would woman want to put herself through that? And then you start, you know, getting into things and you're like, oh, no, no, no. She is totally in control. She can, as fast as she wants to. Everybody is only doing what she is allowing to do, and she is in control. And that's like the most empowering thing. And so when you switch it around, you can. You can work out so many mental health issues through sex. It's insane. [00:14:43] Speaker B: And that's why I think a lot of women have that as a fantasy. I think it is a way. And I think because it was never my fantasy. And I'm like. I think it's because I'm like, you know, gang banging when I'm walking down the street, boss, and everyone around, like, you know, I don'. I don't need to be in any more control, you know, but like, I could see the regular woman maybe, because like, like the girl like Casey, let me tell you, if you met her on the street, she's a quiet girl, you would never think, you know what I mean? This is where she's like fucking ferocious So I think it's, like, a really interesting take. Cause even you, Charlie just said, like, you didn't think that before yourself. So I like to present these stories because I do. As much as I'm having fun on my show and I'm getting people's life stories, what I really love is to dive super deep and get, you know, the psychology behind it and all that stuff as well. Besides the hot stories. I mean, there is sex in here. That's where I took a little liberty, where sometimes the sex scenes were done a little bit more. Right. Because I didn't go. Exactly. But a lot of the other stuff is all taken from. They're all real stories, and all the facts in there are from the episodes. [00:15:39] Speaker A: Okay, awesome, awesome. So, Kathy, what made you want to even write a book in the first place? [00:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good question, by the way. I have to ask. Well, no, it's very. Like, for me, I was always somebody. When I was younger, I read a lot of books. You know, I grew up where there was no Google. If there was Google when I grew up, I would have never read one fucking book. I just like to know things, you know? And when I grew up, there were, like, encyclopedias. That's what was, like, aroused. And books, you know? So I read, like, so many books, and I loved reading books. And I always, like, used to write, like, really cheesy poems when I was younger. And I was always kind of like a writer, though. I hate writing. And I just always wanted to write a book, and I always wanted to get it published. Because I remember sometimes, like, reading certain books. There was one by Norman Vincent Peale's like, you think you can if you think you can. And there was a lot of religious stuff in there, but I threw that up. But it was, like, one of the best books I ever read. And it, like, completely changed my life. And I was like, oh, my God, this guy is dead and buried. And he is, like, affecting me. Like, how powerful is that? So I feel like to put stuff out there that exists is, like, super powerful. I mean, listen, my book is not that deep. So it's not like, you know, Norman Vincent Peale material, you know, 50 years from now, changing people's lives. But, you know, I think it's important to get the message of my show out there in paper. And I just always wanted a book in my name out there. [00:16:56] Speaker A: So basically, Kathy, your book is, like, the sexual form of the Power of Positive Thinking. That's the book you must have read, right? [00:17:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they had a. I read all his books. The one you can, if you think you can is all about like motivating. Oh, it's so fucking good. All. Did you read his stuff? [00:17:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was totally into self help and. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. Those are all the books I read. [00:17:20] Speaker A: Yep, yep. I read this book about 25 years ago. [00:17:24] Speaker B: So you were like, me ahead of the times. Like, I read all this shit. And then 10 years, 15 years later, Oprah's like talking about all these books as they first came out. I'm like, I read those when I was 15. Me and you. Yeah, yeah. [00:17:34] Speaker A: He literally wrote that book in like the 50s. [00:17:36] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I mean. And it was so powerful. I would like send tingles in my fingers. I was like, oh my God. And that's when I was like, this is so powerful. But like, that's how I feel about. It's like music, books or any stuff that you sort of put out there. It lasts forever. Now, I don't know where our podcasts are going to be 50 years from now, but I love what we're doing. I love that my show is out there. I love the emails that I get from people. You know, I hope that my book is like a different way of like getting in touch with people because a lot of people don't. You know, I used to be on YouTube, I got thrown up. But like a lot of people don't, don't go on podcasts or don't listen to podcasts. You know, some people just read. So like, maybe people are going to find this book that never would find my podcast and they're going to learn things that they would never know, you know? And what I always say about my show is like, I'm not trying to tell people because sometimes people will be like, oh, like, do you think everyone should do this? And I'm like, no, like, that's not what I'm saying at all. I think most people will never do these things. But what my show is here to say is that you can do these things and you can be better for it. You know what I mean? I'm not here. And I love a swinger gone wrong story and all that stuff. But what I love about my show is I show real people, people, real, sober, clear headed, intentional people living their best life in love, having fun, whoever they want. And that can be a reality. And I think so many people I hear all the time talking about the opposite like that Dr. Drew I always did. I always say bad things about him, because I used to love him and I hear him on podcast like, oh, open relationships doom for failure. It's like, not actually. No. You know, listen, some people might be doomed for failure if they do it, but I've talked to so many couples after 30 years, 40 years, and I've. You know what I mean? That are not only not doomed for failure, they're happier and in love and more close than any vanilla couple, you know? So I just think it's important for people to know that, like I said, you don't have to do these things, but if you do them, it doesn't, you know, you can be successful and you can have a great relationship and you're not doomed for failure. So off. [00:19:37] Speaker A: Dr. Jeff, at first I thought when you said that you're like that doc. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Doc Chocolate. [00:19:48] Speaker B: Yeah. No, you're the real doc. [00:19:51] Speaker B: Him. Him. [00:19:53] Speaker D: But I think there are people out there that don't know because, I mean, just like four and a half years ago, I got into the swinger lifestyle and I had no idea it existed. [00:20:03] Speaker B: It. [00:20:03] Speaker D: But it is the most outed thing in plain sight. But it's like under the radar and you don't know. And if people aren't listening to podcasts, they may not come across that information. They read your book. They're like, you know, maybe. Maybe this is what I need. Because every single relationship in the past has not worked, you know. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Yeah, totally. And some people, and I've had them on my show many times, tell me that, like, you know, they went into, you know, a lot of times it's second, third marriages or whatever, where they go in like, I'm never going to be not who I am again. You know, cheaters that always cheated on their. And they go in their next relationship, they're like, I want variety and that's how we're going to roll. And the other person's right there with them, and that's how they live. And they're happier than they've ever been. I've heard every kind of story, you know, but I think it's important that people know that, like, these people exist. We all know them. I mean, I don't know how many people removed everyone is from one of these kinds of people, but they're out there and they're all over. And this is what people are really doing. Guys are sucking other guys dicks, okay? It's a real fact. And everybody wants to protect. Exactly. And cars, okay? Everyone wants to pretend it's not happening. I'm just telling you, this is what real people are doing. There's not some, like, you know, I always say there's not some pervert island where all these weird, perverted people exist, and they're all fucking, like, crazy people, and they all look a certain way. These are regular people. They could be your co workers. They could be your boss. They could be your aunt. They could be your parents. Okay. They could be your fucking husband. I don't know. But, like, I hear from a lot of people. I've talked to 21, 241 people as of today. Well, that's how many I've posted. I have 40 more tapes, so I probably talked to 1500 people at this point. [00:21:42] Speaker A: Geez. Geez. [00:21:44] Speaker D: A lot of information, right? Yeah. [00:21:46] Speaker B: I love it. I love it. [00:21:48] Speaker A: And you're not afraid to call out people when they get like. I've heard you. Like, okay. So usually. Okay, Kathy, usually when I'm listening to your podcast, usually I'm either driving somewhere, you know, long distance, or I'm. Yeah, whatever, right? And, like, you'll literally have me. Like, I'll be walking, and then you'll say something. Like, somebody will say something. And you're like, yeah, that's. That's Matthew. I don't believe you. No. I'm like, damn. [00:22:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to know? It's awesome. I just called you out of my podcast that I'm taped, I'm airing tomorrow with this guy with this crazy fetish, because I was like, oh, yeah. I was once on this podcast. And he's like, kathy, don't yuck anyone's yum. And I'm like, you. I'm gonna yuck people's yum if I want to, and be like, oh, my God, that's crazy. Like, I mean, I really am a normal. I think that's, like, the sort of charm of my show, because a lot of people do what? And everybody has their own unique personality. But what I think I bring to my show that my audience appreciates is my honesty. You know? I mean, like, I am, like, the regular person listening. And a lot of times I'm like, no fucking way. Like, I can't believe it. Or sometimes, like, what the fuck? Like, I don't believe you, or that's crazy. Or, you know the guy that put eggs down his pants and jerked off in them and then cook them and ate them? I thought that was disgusting. And that's what you said was, I was yucking his yummy. [00:23:07] Speaker B: He was like, don't yuck someone's yum. Yeah, no, you told me that though, when I was on your show. I gave that as my craziest episode. [00:23:16] Speaker A: But anyway, when you told me that Kathy, I had nightmares for like the next two weeks. [00:23:22] Speaker B: He wanted to send me a picture of the omelette that he made with his jerk off session while I was on the phone. I was like, no thanks. So I am very real on it with the people, which I think is entertaining. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Sorry, must have been a lot of egg whites with that. [00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:40] Speaker A: So do people get your book at what is the link? Like how do they. [00:23:45] Speaker B: Well, yeah, you know, listen, there's a hard copy book if circa 1987, but you could also get an ebook. And I think for my show, what's really great, it's like some people might not want this book on their coffee table, you know, when their mom comes over. But like there's an ebook available and I am doing like there is an audiobook. And just so you know, like, I was like, of course to my publisher when they solved the audiobook, I was like, I have to do the audiobook. Right? Like, this is my show, this is my book. I, you know, I wanted to sort of the stories to read. Kind of like I'm sitting across and telling you this and then they're like, okay, of course you have to. And then my agent called me up, he's like, oh, you got to do like, just do like a little interview, like a sample tape for them. They just want to hear how it sounds at your place. Maybe you could do it yourself. So I started like reading my book into my podcasting equipment. I started listening and I was like, horrific. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Hey there cucks. Stags and ladies, do you want to meet up with me Doc Chocolate and have a sexy experience of your life for your hot wife? Now if you answered yes, then you must check out Doc Chocolate's hot wife training days@hotwife trainingday.com. now if you've ever seen one of my sexy videos that I've recorded with hot wives, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. What's going to happen is your wife is going to get wine and dined by me. There's going to be heavy sexy flirting. 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And then I realized like, oh my God, these real narrators that work for these real companies that read audiobooks, it's like, they're like actors. They have like real skills. They bring stories to life. So I got a hot ass girl to read the book and to make it great. And I took myself out and you know, my publisher was a little bit like, what the fuck? But I'm like, no way. Like, I would do my book a disservice if I read it. I wanted a professional to do it. So there is an audiobook and I think that's a super fun way to, you know, consume the book. And that's available too. And it's all like, you get on Amazon, you can get on Simon and Schuster, Barnes and Noble. If you just put in like strictly anonymous confessions book, it will pop up. But it's available in all three formats, which is great. [00:26:52] Speaker D: I love that you did that. I love that you, like, I. This is not my wheelhouse. Somebody else is going to be able to make this book come alive. I will not be able to do that. This do. [00:27:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just get to have my voice. First of all, my, like, it is my show, but my show is about other people, right? Like these guests aren't me, right? And it was supposed to be me telling the story, but I was like, why not get someone really great that's a professional? Because there really is a big difference. It's like funny people think they could be comedians. When I worked in entertainment, like in my bio, I work with famous comedians like you. Just because you're fucking funny doesn't mean you could be a comedian. It's so rude to say, you know, just because I host a show and I talk to people, I can't narrate a book because you want to know what it is? It's acting. And I am like the worst. I'm a very real Person. I cannot. I don't even like to wear a costume on Halloween. It's like too much acting for me. Do you know? I mean, like, I don't. I can't be anyone but myself, so I can't get to the sex scenes and be like, oh, like, you know, So I. Yeah, you don't have a. [00:27:51] Speaker A: Sex scene voice, Kathy. [00:27:53] Speaker B: No, I have this voice that your girlfriend thought I was like an old soccer mom. Okay, this doesn't work. [00:27:59] Speaker D: I did not say. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay. Okay, guys. So. So all we had a conversation. Oh, my God. We. Nobody knows what Kathy. [00:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah, right. I'm anonymous. It's my speaker. Yeah. [00:28:13] Speaker A: And so, like, I was telling. I was telling Charlie, I was like, kathy is pretty hot. [00:28:19] Speaker B: And I guess twice. [00:28:21] Speaker D: And I hadn't looked her up or tried to see any, because he's like, yeah, yeah. So I was like. I didn't even think about. [00:28:27] Speaker A: So basically, when you Google Kathy, all you can see is the body and then the luxury, the luxurious hair. And, like, she saw it. Charlie saw it. She was like, kathy is hot. And I was like, that's what I've been telling you. [00:28:44] Speaker A: And then, like, we get on the podcast before we hit the record button, and then. What did you say, Charlie? [00:28:50] Speaker D: She's like, I showed her your picture and she thinks you're hot. And then, of course, the question is, what did you think I looked like before I explained that in my head? I had this, like, kind of soccer momish person kind. [00:29:04] Speaker B: The. [00:29:05] Speaker D: The. The New York accent was throwing me. And she's very. [00:29:09] Speaker B: I think you could use the word Jewish. You can. [00:29:11] Speaker D: I did. I did. [00:29:12] Speaker B: Okay, not even Jewish, but I have tons of Jewish friends. You could say Jewish. [00:29:16] Speaker D: I feel like you grew up in a Jewish community. [00:29:20] Speaker D: And got a little bit of the accent because you got some in there. A little bit. [00:29:25] Speaker A: Charlie. Hold on. FYI, Charlie can say that because she's half Jewish, half Jew. [00:29:30] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm probably less than a quarter, but still, I'm familiar with the. The accent. So I was like. There was a little bit there, but I think it's more the New York accent. But you have a mom assertiveness that, like, usually gives me a thing in my head. But yeah. Anyway, we got past that. [00:29:46] Speaker B: That's so funny. Yeah, but I mean, I love that it's funny. I just did. I just taped a. One thing to do my book with a friend that's on a YouTuber Girl Toronto unicorn. And she was like, kathy, news flash, in my YouTube comments, people don't think that's really you. I'm like, what do they think I do? Like, do you think this is AI and that I wouldn't have a better background if it was AI and, like, I wouldn't pick even a hotter chick. I mean, like. And they think I, like, move my hands and put, like, a fit my voice to my friend or something. Like, what do they think is going on? And she couldn't find the comic, but supposedly on YouTube, they don't think this is really me. [00:30:22] Speaker D: That's very talented. If it's not you. [00:30:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's fun. I mean, the whole anonymous thing, I mean, that's what it says on the back in the beginning of this book. It's like, you know, that's the thing about my show is all these people are anonymous. Right. Like, you guys weren't. Because you're a content creator. And I love promoting people and I love people who are out and proud. Right. Like, that just helps everybody else. [00:30:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Which I love. And that's. I think that's super helpful. So, of course I have you guys on, but most of the people, the majority of my callers, all the people in this book are anonymous. I change their voices, I change their names. I don't even give a shit who they are. I don't ask them any incriminating evidence. I don't want to know where you live. I don't know your real names. I don't know what you do for a living. I want to know what you do behind closed doors. And they do tell me. And, you know, and I'm like, oh. Like, what is my secret life? Because I don't. I'm, like, kind of vanilla and boring compared to all my guests, but I'm like, this is actually. It's kind of funny that, like, this is my secret, like, my podcast. [00:31:13] Speaker A: Kathy, timeout. Timeout. [00:31:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Wow. [00:31:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:17] Speaker A: Flag. [00:31:18] Speaker B: Flag. [00:31:18] Speaker A: Flag. Flag. On the play, 15 yard penalty. You are not boring. You have told me and probably Charlie Some, you're not vanilla. She. [00:31:29] Speaker D: Well, I think I feel like you've had more fun than the average vanilla person. [00:31:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Me, Yes. I border on, like, the most extreme vanilla, but I'm very vanilla compared. Which I. Which I love. And I think, like I said, I think that adds to my show. But I think, like, the craziest thing is that, like, literally, I am a mom, by the way. I'm a single mom, and I did have a kid way later in life. And, like, none of my mom friends, by the way, thank God nobody's as curious As I am. No one gives a shit about other people. Like, I ask everybody everything about their life. Not one person has ever asked me what I do for a living. And I'm like, thank God. Yeah, I swear to God, thank God. People are so uninterested in other people and so self absorbed because no one ever asked me. Because I don't, I don't, I don't tell anybody. And I would. Nobody knows. This is very. Except like a small. I'm like, my mother never knew. My father doesn't know. Most people in my family don't know. My sister, my brother know, a couple friends. But besides that, nobody effing knowledge, which I love. It's kind of fun, right? [00:32:25] Speaker A: So when that question does arise, like, what do you tell people? [00:32:29] Speaker B: That I, I, My mo. And what I told my son, because my son's like nine and people. You know what I mean? And he's so proud of me. He knows I have a podcast and it's about sex and I'm very open. And when it comes to sex, like, he'll learn about it one day. And I don't fucking care what people think, but other people do. I tell him. So you don't say that. You say your mind. This is what I told him and this would be my thing. But like I said, no one's ever asked me. But like, I helped people monetize their podcast. Like, I work in podcasting and I help. I'm on the business side and I help, you know, people networks, like, monetize podcasts and stuff like that. [00:32:59] Speaker A: You're a podcast consultant? Yeah. [00:33:02] Speaker B: There you go. I like that even better. That's even easier. Less words. [00:33:05] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:33:06] Speaker B: Yeah, because. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Yeah, because you call me a gang bang coordinator once. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. Yeah. I like podcast consultant. You got my thing. But trust me, my son's 9. I've been hanging around these moms for. No one asks anyone questions. We all talk about kids and stuff, so. So it's great that people are like, as not as curious as I am because nobody asks me and I don't have to worry about it. And I will only out myself for like, you know, like a big deal or something. You know, I hope to one day out myself, but I. But right now it's like kind of great being anonymous, but every now and then I have to tell you, like, I was at CVS recently and I ordered my script and the guy, like, looked up to me, like, looked at me, like, funny twice. And I was like, oh, you know, once I started talking. So sometimes when or if I'm in an airport and I start, you know, barking orders of what I want, like I said, people look at me, guys check me out. I don't know if it's because they think I look good or they're like, I've heard that voice. [00:34:01] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [00:34:02] Speaker B: You don't know. Or I'd be, like, uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:34:07] Speaker A: I. I would definitely know your voice if, like, you were in a crowded place. I'd be like, for sure. Is Kathy. [00:34:13] Speaker B: Yeah, You, Yeah. Voice. Yeah. People Uber drivers have emailed me, like, oh, were you in Cincinnati last night? Because they picked up someone that sounded just like you. I was like, no, that wasn't me. You know, no one's ever caught me yet, but I, you know, and when I got started my podcast, my Patreon, I was going to out myself then. But whenever I came to the place where I was like, maybe I should out myself, people were like, why? Like, in a weird way, it kind of works. Like, people could kind of put whatever face they want. Like Charlie put a terrible face to me, but, like, maybe other people put a great one. 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I love that I'm doing what I love to do, and I'm doing it well, and I do it all the time. And it's my full time, 247 gig, and I don't, you know, nobody has to know about it. And I don't go to my gym, and guys are kind of checking me out because they know when I talk about sex, you know, and blah, blah, blah. And so I'm like, incognito, which is cool. But my book won't be. It'll be out and everyone will get to read about it. I mean, Lisa, this is not my real name. Kathy K. Is not my real name. [00:37:21] Speaker A: It's not? [00:37:22] Speaker B: No, of course not. How would I be? Oh, you're joking. [00:37:26] Speaker A: Is not my real name. [00:37:27] Speaker B: Either way. [00:37:30] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I never thought about that. Yeah. What the is your name? [00:37:34] Speaker A: My real name is. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Charlie. Is you really Charlie? [00:37:39] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Okay. I mean. I mean, but, like, your faces are out there. [00:37:45] Speaker D: Yeah, it is. It is. [00:37:48] Speaker A: And funny enough, I had a guy that messaged me on my real Facebook and, like, he was like, doc, question mark. I was like, damn it. [00:37:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Was it a friend of yours that found out, like, that kind of a thing? Some random dude, like, wow, he put it together. [00:38:06] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah, dog. [00:38:08] Speaker A: Is it. Is that you? [00:38:09] Speaker D: Oh, my God. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I have Googled myself. Even my real name. Like, even if someone somehow got my real name. Because sometimes I'll be like, oh, I live in New York City and I have, you know, no one could even find a picture of me anyway. Like, even with my real name, you know, I made sure of that. So, like, no one's knowing anything unless I'm making, like, seven figures. Six, you know, so that's it. [00:38:32] Speaker D: And you're like, I don't care. Anyway, It's. [00:38:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:34] Speaker A: And you live, like, one of the biggest cities in the world. So, like. [00:38:38] Speaker D: I know. [00:38:38] Speaker B: Yeah. But no, I. You know, my son's getting to an age where it doesn't matter, but I'm very glad. When I started my show, by the way, I didn't know it was going to be about sex, but I didn't know I was going to be anonymous. Like, this all sort of happened by accident. But I'm so glad it happened the way that it did because I also didn't know I was going to have a baby on my own and be a mom, a single mom, and that, you know, it would be. So. I'm just glad that no one knew and there was. Because, you know, at the end of the day, the reason why we are talking about what we're doing and everything, and at least for me, too, is like, to just sort of ease the judgment that's out there. But the truth is, there's still a lot of judgy people out there. There would probably be certain friends of my son that wouldn't let their kids play with my kid if they knew. There's one in particular that I'm always like, oh, my God. And I love this daddy. So fucking cool. I think, you know, and. But I know because he's super religious, he would never allow his friend to play with my son. And they're like besties. So I'm glad that I'm on the DL for my son, you know, but he'll be older soon. It won't matter. [00:39:36] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [00:39:37] Speaker A: If he ever says anything, just show him a copy of your Norman Vincent Peale book, Power of Positive Thinking to tell them, I am very, very religious. [00:39:47] Speaker B: Well, that's what I. You know, that's what I used to say about books, because Norman appeal, there was a lot of g. I forget what it was. There's a lot of Jesus stuff and everything, and a lot of times people will pick up a book, and if they don't believe in Jesus, they're like, I can't read it. It's like, just throw that out. Because everything else in there is so great. Like, you're never gonna buy into everything of anyone. Right? But all these books had, like, such great stuff in there that if you get turned off by Jesus, like, just forgive it. Put a different word. Just put a different word in there. Who gives a. He's like a brilliant genius. [00:40:18] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [00:40:19] Speaker B: No judgment about that, too. [00:40:21] Speaker A: I. I totally agree. Like, you know, because, like, I'm Christian in faith, but, you know, I can read something that's Islamic and faith. I can read something that's Hindu Buddhism, you know, I love it all because I feel like you can get a wealth of information and build yourself up as a person by learning about other cultures and things. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Yeah, right. And taking from the things that you like that you connect to and the things that you're like, oh, my God, light bulb moment. You know, we all are free thinking individuals. I'm sorry, Unless you're the biggest fucking follower, you're never going to find anyone that you're going to agree with 100%. But if you know, someone brings something to the table that's brilliant genius shit, like, why not take it? It doesn't matter that the rest of them, you don't agree with them, you know? So I, yeah, love Norman Vincent Peele. [00:41:12] Speaker A: What's your favorite story in the book? [00:41:15] Speaker B: Oh, God, it's hard. I love Crimson story. She's the guilt porn star. She also, you know, she's a lot of things. [00:41:23] Speaker A: Crimson, for those of you guys who may not know what that is. [00:41:26] Speaker D: It stands for Grandma I'd like to fuck. [00:41:30] Speaker B: Yeah, there you go. And she fucks a lot. Okay. A lot of guys want to fuck Crimson. Okay. She turned into an XXX star. She's sweet as pie. She's hardcore. She's super interesting. I like hers because some people, like you guys have been on my show more than once. So some people have a little bit more of an arc and a little bit more of a journey, right, because they called in more than once. So I drew from all those episodes. And there's a time where Crimson in her story, in her real life did like wind up having a lot of surgeries and stuff. And the shit she was doing through that, I was like, wow, you are like not the normal person. So she's. I like hardcore people, you know, extremists. But I also like, there's like a story, Mara, she had like a real story with an arc because she was like in a lesbian throuple with her husband. And this was like a very short period of time in a short story, like I said, that had an arc. That's the thing about some of the stories. They're just like a person's whole life story where you just hear what they do. So some of the stories are a little bit more of like a beginning, middle, end story. And that's what Mara has that I enjoy. But I think I love them all. It's hard. I mean, I chose them all. [00:42:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I love it. I love it. And can we potentially expect Another book from Ms. Kathy K? [00:42:49] Speaker B: You know, it's funny because when I did a lot more than 17 things that I sent in and they're like, oh, we're going to hold these and don't put in these. And maybe for your next book. And my agent's always like, your next book. But I did make a joke, like, I would never do that again. So I don't know. It's kind of like Chuck childbirth. I don't know. You know, like, you say I would never because it was so hard, but maybe I would. You know, I. Listen, I do have. I mean, this book took. You know, you. You do. You don't even realize the process of writing a book with a publisher until you do it. It's very long and tedious and crazy. And I learned a lot this first time that I would do things very different the next time. So, you know, if they came back and wanted more stories, I. I totally would, because I have so many more. Even when this was done, I was like, oh, my God, I've done 500 episodes since, and I wish this story was in. I wish this store is. I could do just a whole book just on fetishes because I have so many crazy ones, you know, so, you know, maybe. For sure. It's hard, though. Writing's hard for me. I'd rather talk. [00:43:45] Speaker A: Yes. And you're very good at talking. [00:43:50] Speaker A: Thank you. Ms. Kathy K. You are so freaking awesome. Of the Strictly Anonymous Confessions podcast. Make sure you check out her book, her new book, her first book, and I doubt it's going to be her last book. And again, Ms. Kathy K, where do people find your book and your awesome podcast at? [00:44:12] Speaker B: Well, listen, they could go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and there's links to everything there you could find. Listen, if you put in Google, Strictly Anonymous Confessions, you're going to find my book, you're going to find my podcast, you'll find my website. It's all there. My book is available anywhere where you buy books, and my podcast is available anywhere you listen to podcasts and strip called Strictly Anonymous Confessions, my podcast and my book. So it's super easy. And like I said, you know, if you want to read it on the DL, you do the ebook or the audiobook. It's, you know, so. But thank you so much for having me on and allowing me to talk about my book. You know, I typically don't go on podcasts as gas. I always feel bad. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm not talking about gang bangs or anything fun, but, you know, maybe I hope it was a good episode for you. It was. [00:44:56] Speaker A: You were such an interesting, unique, like, lovely person. Like, I mean, you're so freaking entertaining. Your whole life is like, yeah, awesome and just unique. So, I mean, it's always a pleasure having you on board. This is the second time you're on this podcast. Yeah, yeah. [00:45:12] Speaker B: Second time. Charlie, you were just. You were on the phone with him or you were in bed talking about. I forget. There was. She was, like, in your bed naked, remember? [00:45:20] Speaker D: Yes, yes. That was when we were in the studio, and so I was there all, yes. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Something had just gone down, and you were in the back chiming in. And then I had you on my show. [00:45:31] Speaker D: That's right. I do remember that. I do remember that. Yes. [00:45:35] Speaker B: That was in the beginning of you guys. Are you guys at a proud couple early days? [00:45:40] Speaker A: And then Kathy's like, oh, that's so cute. [00:45:42] Speaker B: You're still with him. [00:45:43] Speaker A: He didn't chase you off yet? [00:45:46] Speaker B: No. Doc, Chucky, you're like a ray of sunshine. You could tell. You're a nice guy. And I remember Charlie's whole life story because I heard it and she just had one, like, not so great guy after another that, like, you really found the one. I feel like, you know what I mean? Like, you're lucky because it's hard to find good guys. And, you know, and I think vice versa. You're lucky, too, to have found her. But, like, you know, I'm not surprised that you're still together. [00:46:10] Speaker D: Thank you. [00:46:11] Speaker A: Thank you. Thanks. [00:46:12] Speaker B: Yes. [00:46:13] Speaker D: He's freaking awesome. [00:46:14] Speaker A: Yes. And you're very awesome. Yes, ma'. Am. So. [00:46:19] Speaker B: And. And by the way, Doc Chocolate is a great massage. What are you doing? Massages. Gang bang coordinators. All my listeners. I got an email that a DM the other day on Instagram. I said to you, I'm like, this couple's like, we've been talking to him. Should we use him? Blah, blah, blah. Like, oh, my God, yes, you should. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Yes. [00:46:34] Speaker D: He's amazing. [00:46:35] Speaker A: And I have a person. Well, a couple that wants to come on, not the other. [00:46:40] Speaker B: Please have them on. [00:46:42] Speaker A: Yes, yes. They. They love you so. And we love you, Kathy K. Again. [00:46:46] Speaker B: You guys, thank you. [00:46:48] Speaker A: Welcome. Make sure y' all go to strictly anonymous podcast.com. her new book, Strictly Anonymous Confessions, is available. Make sure you go to Amazon and any place that books are sold. Google. I'm sorry. Do a search for strictly anonymous. You'll find it. I am@doc chocolatefans.com and she is ads funcharli.com and until the next episode, y' all stay beautiful, y' all stay blessed, and y' all stay sexy. Bye. [00:47:18] Speaker B: Bye, you guys. Thank you so much. [00:47:21] Speaker C: Thank you for listening to everybody's favorite black man candy, Doc Chocolate of the Bulls and Queens podcast. 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