152 | INSIDE THE LIFESTYLE - What it's REALLY like to go to a LS party or event!

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Inside the Lifestyle what it's really like to go to a lifestyle party or club. In this episode, we're going to pull back the curtain and give you the real unfiltered truth about what it's actually like to walk into a lifestyle party or a club for the first time. There's not going to be any porn fantasies, no Hollywood exaggerations, just the authentic vibe, energy, rules, surprises, and wild moments that make lifestyle spaces so unique. And we're going to hit that right after this sexy intro. [00:00:39] Speaker B: You are now listening to the Bulls and Queens podcast where we have sexy fun exploring the lifestyle and swinging exploits of black bulls, queens of spades, cuckold fantasies, open relationships, seductive interracial encounters, and other kinky shenanigans that are sure to get you off in a very good way. So get ready, ladies, and make sure you take notes, gentlemen, because here is your host, that super sexy, bald black man candy, Doc Chocolate. [00:01:48] Speaker A: All right, we are back. It is Dark Chocolates of the Bulls and Queens podcast here with my beautiful, lovely partner, Fun Charlie. You didn't say that. Very fun. Like Fun Charlie, that's a lot more funner. Fun is not even a real word. Yeah. So anyways, whatever podcast platform you're listening to this on, make sure you subscribe to us, leave us a five star review, let us know how much you love it, and as always, if you have any questions, don't to forget, please make sure you send an email to bulls and queensmail.com and we will answer them. And also make sure that you check out our spicy adventures, our content, our sexy swinger videos that we make. You're going to see a lot of dinglings, a lot of titties, nipples and all that other fun stuff. You can check mine out@doc chocolatefans.com and when you go to onlyfans.com you have a first month special for only $5. Wow. Yeah. And if you want to book a sensual massage for me, you and your wife, I mean, not for you, but for you to watch me sexually massage your wife, make sure you go to the Book Chocolate link on my site@doc chocolatefans.com.com as well. And Fun Charlie, where do people find you at? [00:03:19] Speaker C: Ooh, funcharli.com you'll find, oh, funcharli.com or fun charlie at on all my socials, fun charlie420 on a few of them. You'll find my spicy fun adventures on there. And you're. You're on there a lot. [00:03:36] Speaker A: I am? [00:03:37] Speaker C: You are? [00:03:38] Speaker A: Really? Yeah. You like to have sex with me? [00:03:40] Speaker C: I do. [00:03:40] Speaker A: On video. [00:03:41] Speaker C: I know, it's. Yeah. Really? I know that. [00:03:44] Speaker A: I. I feel very, very special. She has sex with me and she's very good at the sex. [00:03:49] Speaker C: You're very good at the sex also. [00:03:51] Speaker A: Yes. She's very good at pillowing. [00:03:55] Speaker A: We heard that term. We were watching a show called Shogun. [00:04:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:00] Speaker A: And it's on Netflix. No, Disney. Oh, yeah, it's on Disney. Oh, I thought it was on Disney. [00:04:05] Speaker C: Yeah, got it. [00:04:06] Speaker A: That's probably why they say pillowing. [00:04:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:07] Speaker A: But they're in the 1800s and there's a European guy, he's from port, and he lands in the 1800s. Shogun, Japan. And like, they send over. I was gonna say whores. They send over concubine. Concubines. No, there's a better word that they have for it. It's called a courtesan. Courtesan. Yeah. And instead of him saying sleep or have sex or, you know. [00:04:43] Speaker C: I mean. [00:04:44] Speaker A: You know, they say. [00:04:47] Speaker A: To the girl, you've ever. They sent a girl to his room. [00:04:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:50] Speaker A: And he was like, I don't want to pillow you. [00:04:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:53] Speaker A: I'm sure you're very good at pillowing, but I have a wife back home in London. I was like. The pillowing. [00:05:00] Speaker C: Yeah. So it was weird. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Yeah. So anyways, long story short, I like pillowing you. [00:05:05] Speaker C: I like pillowing you. [00:05:08] Speaker A: And so in this episode, we are going to talk about what it's really like to go to a lifestyle party or club. And before we get into it, how has our week been going? Funcharli. [00:05:23] Speaker C: Pretty decent. Been busy, actually. [00:05:27] Speaker C: We've been catching up from being so busy. And so it's been productive but not as, like, crazy, you know? [00:05:35] Speaker A: Got it. [00:05:36] Speaker C: More like at home stuff. [00:05:37] Speaker A: Yes, more at home stuff. And as we record this, we're actually going into Thanksgiving. So Thanksgiving is actually going to be in two days. And so we're thinking of having a friends giving at the house. Yeah, right. [00:05:50] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. [00:05:51] Speaker A: And we're gonna have some friends and I'm pretty sure that somebody's gonna get their turkey stuffed, if you know what I mean. We may throw a pillow or two in there as well. [00:06:01] Speaker C: Oh, my God. Possibly. [00:06:02] Speaker A: Yes. [00:06:02] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:06:03] Speaker A: So it's gonna be fun. [00:06:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:05] Speaker A: So shall we start on the episode? [00:06:07] Speaker C: Let's do it. [00:06:08] Speaker A: Yeah, let's pillow, baby. [00:06:10] Speaker C: Pillow. [00:06:10] Speaker A: Okay. So what we're gonna talk about on this episode, we're gonna talk about the real first timers experience. We're going to talk about what actually happens when you Walk through the doors, how people flirt, club rules, etiquette and unspoken codes. The difference between a chill house party versus a high end lifestyle club. How people mingle, safety, consent, boundaries and much, much more. Okay, so let's talk about the real first timers experiences. Right, so I'm sure I've been in the lifestyle for seven, eight years. And how long have you been in lifestyle Charlie? [00:06:51] Speaker C: I think coming up on four. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Four? [00:06:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay, maybe, maybe a little longer, but yeah, about four. [00:06:57] Speaker A: Okay. And how was your first time going to either a lifestyle party or a club? Did you go to a party first. [00:07:05] Speaker C: Or a club party? A party which I, I, this specific party was very good for starting, but I would not normally recommend going to a party first. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Why is that? [00:07:16] Speaker C: Because usually parties, they put together things where it's around everybody who wants to fuck. So if you are not down to fuck. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Fuck pillow. [00:07:29] Speaker C: Absolutely not. [00:07:32] Speaker C: If you're not down to fuck, it is awkward. Especially if it is a much smaller house party. So my experience was very unique and I think the after going to a lot of house parties, this one was very unique and very different than any other one that I went to. So I felt, okay, you know, in hindsight it was a good one to go to. But I would definitely not recommend that because most likely it's gonna be a everybody's down to fuck party. And that would be overwhelming. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Okay, so basically because you were just like testing it out, I'm assuming you were with your ex boyfriend, Bob? Boston Bob? [00:08:08] Speaker C: Yes. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:08] Speaker C: He took me and he, he had already been to one of these people's parties before, so he knew that it wasn't going to be like one of those like down to fuck parties. I mean everybody, you know, there were people fucking, there were people doing stuff, but it wasn't so small that it was like you were looked at like, why aren't you doing anything? You know, you're a lady. Get, get to work, get to work. [00:08:32] Speaker A: Spread those legs, baby. [00:08:35] Speaker C: But I would absolutely recommend going to a club first. [00:08:40] Speaker A: Okay. [00:08:40] Speaker C: That is, it's a much less, there's a lot less pressure. [00:08:45] Speaker C: And you can be much more kind of in the shadows and just kind of observe without people constantly coming up to you and trying to hit on you or talk to you or making you feel like you should be doing something. And you know, even though technically you do not ever have to do anything. [00:09:02] Speaker A: Correct. [00:09:02] Speaker C: You don't, you don't technically do not ever have to do anything. But there is a kind of social aspect of this where, okay, if you go to so many house parties and you don't play, you're gonna stop getting asked to go to house parties. Cause they want people there that play and fuck and, you know, have fun. And so if, if they fill it with a bunch of people that are shy and stuff, nothing's gonna happen. So they, you know, they try to. There a lot of people do try to do a mix too. So yeah, sometimes they put new people and. But if you've never been around nudity before, if you've never been around people fucking each other before, that is really overwhelming at a house party. I had at least been well introduced into like being nude around people and nudity. So that I was comfortable with. So it wasn't such a jarring experience. [00:09:52] Speaker A: It was so jarring. Yeah, yeah. She went in there and she just seen people pillowing all over the place. [00:09:57] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:09:58] Speaker A: Like, so my experience with it is. I agree with you. So I do feel that for people that are first timers that they want to go to a lifestyle event, a club situation is going to be probably going to be better than a party just because there's typically going to be a lot more people. [00:10:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:20] Speaker A: And a club versus a party. And when there's a lot more people, you can be incognito to a degree, right? [00:10:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:27] Speaker A: And you can kind of just disappear into the shadows. [00:10:29] Speaker C: Yes. And you're. It's much more of a comfortable environment to observe and not have to do and not feel like you have to do anything. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Correct, correct. You know, it's kind of like those like Steve Irwin. Right. You know, maybe that's not a good, good example. [00:10:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:44] Speaker A: But like if he's out in the wild and he's like cranky, I rip Steve Irwin. But it's like he's out in the wild and he's like cranky, you know, and he's out in the swamp with a bunch of alligators, you know. Yeah. He doesn't want to be right in the midst of the swamp with a bunch of alligators and stingrays and like that. He wants to be observing from a nice little distance. [00:11:02] Speaker C: Yeah, right, of course. [00:11:03] Speaker A: You know, and that was a horrible analogy. [00:11:07] Speaker C: Yes. [00:11:07] Speaker A: But that was what popped in my head first. So that's what you get. Yeah, Yeah. I went down that road, so I'm going to keep on driving down it. I'm not going to ask for directions either. [00:11:16] Speaker C: Okay. [00:11:17] Speaker A: And so, yeah, you can just pretty much hide. And my first experience and the lifestyle was actually going to a club. [00:11:25] Speaker C: Okay. [00:11:26] Speaker A: So. Yeah. [00:11:26] Speaker C: Which One did you go to? [00:11:27] Speaker A: I went to Red Rooster down here in Las Vegas, Nevada. [00:11:30] Speaker C: Okay, let's. Let's hear it. I'm excited. [00:11:34] Speaker A: So you probably already heard it and I. [00:11:36] Speaker C: Probably, but I. Yeah, definitely. [00:11:38] Speaker A: Okay, so basically I went to the lifestyle club and I was looking all good. I had my nice slacks on. I had my brown leather shoes on. They're nicely polished. [00:11:52] Speaker C: Nice. [00:11:53] Speaker A: I had on a V neck shirt. Muscles were all popping. I was freshly groomed and all that. [00:11:59] Speaker C: I can picture it now. [00:12:00] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. [00:12:01] Speaker C: Nice. [00:12:02] Speaker A: I was smelling good. I didn't use a Axe body spray. I used a real cologne. [00:12:09] Speaker A: But I was going there to observe. [00:12:11] Speaker C: Okay. [00:12:12] Speaker A: You know. Yeah. You know. [00:12:13] Speaker C: So you didn't have any expectations of fucking? [00:12:15] Speaker A: I did not. I was basically going on a reconnaissance. Reconnaissance mission. I can't even talk today. A recon mission. [00:12:23] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:23] Speaker C: Were you by yourself? [00:12:24] Speaker A: I was. No way by myself. Yes. Yes. [00:12:27] Speaker C: I don't know if I knew that. [00:12:29] Speaker A: Oh, you do now. [00:12:30] Speaker C: I do now. [00:12:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:31] Speaker C: That's crazy. I'm in. [00:12:32] Speaker A: I love it. Yeah. You know, I just went in there like the Marines and shit. And so I was, you know, a little bit, you know, had my nerves all popping and, you know, I may have. [00:12:45] Speaker A: Taken a little bit of party favor. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Smoked a little, how you say, what? Mary Jane. [00:12:52] Speaker C: Yes. [00:12:52] Speaker A: That is the way I made it. May have danced with Mary Jane a little bit before I. [00:12:59] Speaker A: Hey, it's legal in most states, but before I went into the club, you know, just the calming nerves. And so I go in there and I'm just, you know, embracing the scene and whatnot. And I'm exploring and I just see, you know, there is probably about 60, 70 people at the club that night. [00:13:17] Speaker C: Was this a Friday? Saturday. [00:13:20] Speaker A: It was a Friday night, I believe. Okay, so if it wasn't Friday night, it was definitely Saturday night. Okay, so. So I go there and, you know, I'm just seeing a bunch of people. You know, people are dancing because they got music going. There's people talking, there's people flirting. A bunch of people at the tables. I walk around. [00:13:44] Speaker C: How was the. [00:13:49] Speaker C: People? How was the mix? You mean aesthetically attractively attractive versus, you know. Because specifically why I'm asking is because Red Rooster is very eclectic. Eclectic. You have everything from. [00:14:06] Speaker C: You know, you're. [00:14:08] Speaker A: You have, you have everything from midgets running around to housewives running around, soccer moms, bingo halls. Bingo halls. You got 85 year old granddaddies walking on walkers. Yeah, you got. [00:14:23] Speaker C: It is insane. [00:14:24] Speaker A: Yeah, you got college age guys. You got like, you know, 500 pound people walking through there. You know, it's a picture, you know, you got a lot. Yeah, you got everything. Yeah. You got historically pretty people. I hate to use that because you know, that's all in the eyes of a beholder. But you got good looking people, you got mid looking people and you got people that only a mama could probably love. [00:14:50] Speaker C: So. Okay, so you walk in and it's. It's the typical crowd that we're used to. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Correct. [00:14:55] Speaker C: Okay, correct. [00:14:56] Speaker A: And so the thing that I go off of mostly is energy, right? [00:15:00] Speaker C: Fuck yes. [00:15:01] Speaker A: Absolutely. You know, the energy that I got from that place was. It was high as I was and everybody was happy. There was a lot of energy flowing through the place. So, you know, I just love that. [00:15:14] Speaker C: That is why we go correct. It is fun there. [00:15:16] Speaker A: Great energy. Even if we don't. Anybody up there? Yeah, yeah, we like going. [00:15:20] Speaker C: We know we're gonna each other. And they, they do play some good dance music most of the time. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Correct. [00:15:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:25] Speaker A: And so I'm walking around and they're playing porn on the TVs and I'm seeing random people in the rooms and whatnot. And so I'm just, you know, just intaking all this, right? And so I walk into the indoor pool area and there's a bunch of naked people in the, in the hot tub. And there's multiple naked people in the pool. And then there's multiple people, you know, having their drinks and talking, flirting, kissing, whatever, at the outside of the pool, you know, on the edge, right? And I don't know how this happened, but. But I'm walking and then all of a sudden, a split second later, you know, I just hear a splash, splash. And there's just water just splashing in my face and I'm just confused as fuck. I'm like, what the hell happened? Right? And then it takes me like about a second to realize that my dumb ass walked into the pool. [00:16:22] Speaker C: And if you knew how this was like set up, it's very difficult just to walk forward and not know that you're around a pool. Like the pool and the hot tub, it's very close quarters area. So you had to be high as like. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah, well, hey, hey. [00:16:41] Speaker C: I would have loved that. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Hey, I'm a very high achiever, you know. Emphasis on the high part. Yeah. So it wasn't too hard for me. So I walked straight up into that pool and immediately I was like submerged and I was confused because I was kind of high and I was like, why am I all wet? Why is There Water splashing my face. Because. Because, like, I. It's not like I walked into the. The shallow part. I walked into the. The five foot deep part, right? [00:17:05] Speaker C: Oh, you did? [00:17:05] Speaker A: Yeah. So, like. [00:17:07] Speaker C: Oh, so I pictured you got going into the stairs part, but you went into the other side. [00:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, I wasn't trying to walk into the pool. Like, I was just. I was trying to. [00:17:16] Speaker C: That makes so much more sense. That makes so much more sense because I thought you just, like, thought you were just walking down some stairs or something, just gradually. But no, you just went, boom, into the deep end. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So. [00:17:28] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So it would have been different if I walked down the steps, you know, so. So maybe I get my shoes wet. I'm like, what the. You know? But I'm not gonna get all the way in the water. [00:17:36] Speaker C: I kind of thought, you know how they're. They're gradual, but you can. If you take big enough steps, you can miss a couple and just end up in the water. So I kind of thought that's what happened. I didn't realize you were coming from the other way. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yeah. [00:17:50] Speaker C: That's hilarious. That's even funnier. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. Yeah. It's kind of funny. I mean. Yeah, it wasn't funny to me at. [00:17:56] Speaker C: That point anyway, but y. [00:17:58] Speaker A: So, like. Yeah, I walk in and, like, you know, so automatically, like, the water is, like, up to my neck level and, like, that. I'm totally submerged. I'm in the five foot deep part and, like, I'm, like, confused. And then the first thought. Can you guess what the first thought in my head was? [00:18:15] Speaker C: Did you pee yourself? Is that what you were thinking? I mean, that's what I would have thought. [00:18:18] Speaker A: It probably would not have mattered because I was submerged in water, but no, I did not. [00:18:23] Speaker C: You did not? [00:18:23] Speaker A: I kept control of my bladder. [00:18:25] Speaker C: All right. What was your. [00:18:27] Speaker A: My first thought was, did somebody see me? Can I just, like, sneak out? [00:18:34] Speaker C: Because everybody saw you. [00:18:35] Speaker A: It's fucking embarrassing, right? Yes. And so I immediately. Charlie. Hear, like, this random, dude, dude, are you okay? [00:18:50] Speaker A: What happened? Thinking in my head, bitch. I just walked into the pool. That's what the fuck happened. [00:18:54] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:18:57] Speaker A: And I'm looking around and, like, everybody's concerned. So it was like, a look of concern because people were like. [00:19:02] Speaker C: They weren't even, like, having fun with you. They were like, they're concerned. [00:19:06] Speaker A: They're concerned because they're like, what the hell? You know? And I'm looking and walk on somebody's head or something in the pool. Right. And so I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm okay, I'm okay. And like, I got out of there quickly, right? [00:19:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:16] Speaker A: But I'm totally dressed, right? [00:19:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:18] Speaker A: And, you know, I got my good slacks on and I got my good leather brown dress shoes on. And I'm like, fuck. You know, and then I was like, oh, shit, did my phone get wet? Did my. Back in the time when I had Android, did my Android phone get wet? Because if it got wet, I'm fucked, right? [00:19:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:36] Speaker A: But luckily I left my phone in the glove department of my SUV because they said that you can't take pictures or videos of this. So I said, thought to my head. [00:19:48] Speaker C: Why do I need it? [00:19:48] Speaker A: Yeah, why bring the phone? You know, why? You know, have like bulky pockets. [00:19:51] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:19:52] Speaker A: So I was like, yes, yes. So I promptly got naked because, you know, a lot of people out there are naked already. And, you know, I'm a pretty chiseled guy. And so, you know, I'm like, I never scared. You know, I've never been in a situation like that. So I get naked and I'm drying off my clothes. [00:20:08] Speaker C: I think that was a good way to go. [00:20:10] Speaker A: It was. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. And so, you know, I'm just kind of just chilling up there. And then there's. [00:20:17] Speaker A: Long story short, there were two guys that approached me. [00:20:22] Speaker A: And they said, hey, do you want to get into a gay? Gay? No, I'm just teasing. [00:20:27] Speaker A: No, but they approached me and they were like, hey, so our girls over there, they're talking about you and they're really digging you or whatever, right? And so I look over and, you know, they are some pretty looking chicks. [00:20:46] Speaker C: That is very nice. [00:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was like, if I remember correctly, they're both. They're probably about. Both about 5, 5, 5, 6, you know, they looked like they did like, you know, CrossFit, you know, three, four times a week in this spin cycle, you know, spin. What's that called? The spin cycle class. [00:21:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I think. [00:21:06] Speaker A: And you know, they look good. You know, one chick, she was like a blonde chick with like the, the blonde noodle type hair, you know, like the dried noodle hair. And then another chick had some dark brunette hair. And I'm looking at them, I'm like, they want to fuck me. [00:21:24] Speaker C: This is your first time? [00:21:25] Speaker A: This is my first time. And I'm like, I'm kind of shy. I'm like, you know, because, you know, I'm a former pastor and everything like that. [00:21:30] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:21:31] Speaker A: You know, like the good Lord Would not approve of this. And so I'm like, okay. You know, and then there's this other dude that walked in. He was a single guy and you know, he was trying to jump into the conversation because we. What happened was the guys, once they saw that, I approved of it. Yeah. They invited their girls over. So the five of us are having a conversation and, you know, kind of flirting and whatnot. And you know, I'm talking to the ladies and I'm like, oh, shit, these guys are for real. These two ladies want to have sex with me. They want to pillow me. [00:22:05] Speaker C: Yeah. And so, so was it kind of where the guys were going to watch or was it going to be like. [00:22:10] Speaker A: A. I will get to that. [00:22:11] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:22:12] Speaker A: I will get to that. [00:22:13] Speaker C: I'm excited. [00:22:13] Speaker A: So there's this random guy, this tall black dude that kind of walked in and you know, he kind of got in the conversation too. So it was six of us. And you know, so he's thinking that he's in, right? [00:22:25] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:22:26] Speaker A: And so the guys, the two guys, the two boyfriends or husbands, they're like, okay, well, hey, you know, let's go to a private room and we can have some fun. And you know, hey, say no less. You know, I guess this recon mission turned into. Into an active battle, you know, and so, and so they're leading the way, right? And then the tall black dude tries to follow. And then the girls are like, they start whispering and talking to each other. And then they whisper to the guy, their guys. And then the guys say to the tall black dude, they're like, oh, just him. They're pointing at me. Cuz the dude, yeah, he tried to. [00:23:05] Speaker C: Get up on that. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Hey, hey. He thought he was going to get some point. [00:23:08] Speaker C: Yes, he did, right? Yes, he did. [00:23:09] Speaker A: And so like, I was thinking my hair like, oh, they dissed him, right? [00:23:13] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:14] Speaker A: And so the guy's looking at me for help and I'm just kind of shrugging like, hey, better look next time, I guess, you know, I'm giving him. Right? [00:23:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:21] Speaker A: So we go into the room and so once we go into this room and the doors close, it's five of us, two ladies, me and then the two guys. So we get into the bed and you know, I get naked, you know, and the two ladies, they get naked. [00:23:36] Speaker C: Oh, so you have your clothes back on? [00:23:38] Speaker A: Oh, no, I had a towel on. So at that point I had a towel. Right. And so the two ladies got naked. I got naked, which was easy because all I had on was a Towel. And then I was thinking in my head, oh, this is going to be a good time. [00:23:53] Speaker C: Right? [00:23:53] Speaker A: And then the two guys are getting naked and I'm like, whoa, hold up, yellow flag. What's going on here? You know, because in my head, I'm thinking in my head that I'm going to be having sex with these two ladies and somebody's going to do like, you know, pin, pin the tail on the donkey in my asshole, you know, like. Like, hey, what's going on? Like, I was like, hey, I don't swing like that. [00:24:21] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:24:22] Speaker A: And then the guys are like, we're not trying to fuck you. They're looking at me like, I'm a dumbass. [00:24:28] Speaker C: I love it. [00:24:29] Speaker A: And you know, I'm new. [00:24:30] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know. [00:24:31] Speaker A: I don't know what they about to do. My asshole is a virgin. [00:24:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:35] Speaker A: And so. And so they're like, oh, no, no, no. We. We are going to play with our girls too. And so I kind of do a quick thought in my head. I didn't really process that beforehand. And then I'm thinking in my head, oh, okay. Well, I guess that's okay, you know, as long as, you know, you're not touching me with your dick. I'm not touching you with my dick. I. I guess that's cool. [00:24:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:24:54] Speaker A: You know. Yeah. So anyways, the guys, they wanted to watch me at first, right. And so, you know, they're kind of stroking their junk. Right. [00:25:00] Speaker C: And so was that weird for you? [00:25:04] Speaker A: I actually felt better just because it was me and two naked ladies versus the two naked guys on the bed. [00:25:12] Speaker C: And on. On it. [00:25:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:25:13] Speaker C: Okay, so them stroking their dicks were. That didn't really phase you? [00:25:16] Speaker A: It didn't. I glanced at them and then I was hyper focused on the two ladies. [00:25:20] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:20] Speaker C: Okay. [00:25:20] Speaker A: And I was high and I was wet, and I was like, you know, I'm just focused on the beautiful ladies. The beautiful naked ladies. It was like the idea. Yeah. And. And so I'm, you know, using condoms, of course. And so I'm. [00:25:37] Speaker A: One lady, and then the other lady wants to turn, so I switch condoms and then I. The other lady. And about maybe four or five minutes have passed and, you know, we're, you know, we're doing everything. You know, we're kind of kissing. You know, they're giving me a blow job. I'm eating their. The them out. Okay. We're all kissing together. [00:25:56] Speaker C: Okay. [00:25:57] Speaker A: And then like I'm. And then like all of a sudden, I feel myself about to bust a Nut, you know, after about four or five minutes, right. And then I was like, oh, you know, the guys could take out a tail. Like I was about to bust a nut and they're like, dude, what are you doing? [00:26:14] Speaker C: We just got started. [00:26:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I felt, I, I felt shame cuz like I, I wasn't a marathon man back then. Did you tell me that it was. [00:26:23] Speaker C: Your first night or you're like, no, I'm not gonna do. [00:26:25] Speaker A: I may have told them. Okay, possibly, but you know, I don't want to tell them. You know, like, oh yeah, this is my first time on the Rookie. And they're like, oh, well, you know, let's get the tall black dude out there. Not you. [00:26:34] Speaker C: Exactly, exactly. [00:26:35] Speaker A: Rookie. [00:26:37] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. So like what happened was the two guys, they jumped in and they started their wives. And so I think I am with one lady and then the two guys, they go to the other lady and then like I wind up busting a nut. You know, I suck. And so like the whole time, you know, after that, you know, I'm just either kissing or fingering or doing whatever you're doing. [00:27:05] Speaker C: Great job still. Yeah. [00:27:06] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. [00:27:07] Speaker C: Yes. [00:27:08] Speaker A: And like what happened was the combined weight of us. It was five of us and we were on a queen size bed. [00:27:17] Speaker C: Oh. [00:27:17] Speaker A: Like the bed broke. Like we heard it like crack, you know, and then like it just automatically just sunk down to the floor and we're like, oh, yeah. So. So anyways, that was my first time. It was at a club. [00:27:32] Speaker C: Yeah, that was a great first time. [00:27:34] Speaker A: Thank you. Like, I really, really enjoyed it. So. 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[00:30:10] Speaker C: What was your first. So if the club was your first time, what was your first party like? [00:30:16] Speaker A: My first party was. [00:30:19] Speaker C: And how long after your club was that? [00:30:22] Speaker A: Maybe a month afterwards. My first party was with my ex, Caramel. [00:30:30] Speaker C: Okay. [00:30:30] Speaker A: And. And we went to this. [00:30:34] Speaker A: Astronaut'S house, and he had a big ass, huge house. And it was a smaller party. There was about maybe 10, 11 people up there, and people were fucking. And all these people were, like, beautiful. Right. And so we got invited off of Cassidy. [00:30:53] Speaker C: Okay. [00:30:54] Speaker A: And so when we go up there, you know, they have all the food up there, you know, and they have, like, steak and whatnot. And, you know, they're cut into small pieces, and, you know, they're very welcoming and whatnot, but they're very, very, very sexual. So, like. Yeah, yeah. And so that was a lot. That was a lot. [00:31:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:12] Speaker A: You know, it was a lot for me and especially, you know, for Caramel. [00:31:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:16] Speaker A: And so we just were just watching people, and then, you know, I kind of wanted to join in, but, like, I didn't know what was appropriate. [00:31:23] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:31:24] Speaker A: And then one guy was his wife. [00:31:27] Speaker B: Okay. [00:31:28] Speaker A: And it was Dr. G and Jimmy from Phoenix, Arizona. [00:31:34] Speaker C: Okay. [00:31:34] Speaker A: And they're like my lifestyle mentors. [00:31:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:38] Speaker A: You know, and so Dr. G is getting ridden by his, uh, lovely wife, Genie. And, you know, uh, they. They asked me, like, hey, do you want to join in? And this and that. And I'm thinking in my head, like, you know, hell, yeah, I want to join. Right. You know, because the thing was, like, I always kind of had like a thing for. And I didn't know it until I got into lifestyle, but I always had a thing for like nice fits tight older women. Right. [00:32:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:06] Speaker A: And I think Genie was probably about 15 years older than me, I would say. And so, you know, she was looking pretty tight, you know, And I was like, yeah, I want a little piece of that. I was like, shoot, she's looking good. But then I was like, want to be respectful to my then wife. And so, you know, I'm not making a move, you know, so I'm just playing it cool. Right. And so I'm like, ah, yeah, we'll get around to it. Yeah, yeah, you know, so that's basically what happened. [00:32:36] Speaker C: Okay, so you didn't play that first night. [00:32:38] Speaker A: Correct. [00:32:38] Speaker C: Okay. But it. You met people that led you into other things. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Correct, correct. And then I met another guy up there who you and I, we played with him and his wife about a month or two ago. [00:32:54] Speaker C: Okay. [00:32:54] Speaker A: At the Playhouse. Lv. [00:32:57] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [00:32:57] Speaker A: So, yeah. Cause I recognized him literally like seven years later. I had seen this dude for like seven years and I was like, I know you. And he was like, I remember you. And so, yeah, so yeah, we actually had fun. [00:33:10] Speaker C: Yes, we did. We had a lot of fun. Yeah, for sure. [00:33:13] Speaker A: So how about you? [00:33:15] Speaker C: Oh, on my first time. Yeah, okay, first time. My first time in the lifestyle. Did I spit on you? [00:33:24] Speaker A: No. [00:33:24] Speaker C: Okay. Was the party. And so I went with Boston Bob and he thankfully came and drove down. I lived a couple hours away from where it was in Orlando. And he had to come pick me up. Thankfully he did. Because I probably would have chickened out. I was already cool with nudity, but I had never seen anybody fuck in front of me. I had never, you know, kind of done anything. The only, the closest thing I had done where it was like fucking in public was like we made like my ex and I fought in a room full of people that didn't know we were. That was like the closest to like that kind of situation. Okay, so this was a party where there. It was very, I'd say eclectic. There were a little bit of everybody. They were the nicest people there were. They had the coolest house for that kind of situation. It was the first time I saw a hidden room behind a bookcase. [00:34:29] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:34:31] Speaker C: And it was so. It was interesting. I got, you know, I got to do a lot of firsts. And that is what, like, the thing is, like, when you do, when you start going to these places, don't expect to do anything except have fun and have some firsts. And your firsts could be as little as just seeing people in front of you. [00:34:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:52] Speaker C: Or being naked in front of people. [00:34:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:54] Speaker C: Or giving your partner a blowjob or, you know, just anything that. Just little steps. Little steps. Everybody that is a veteran rarely starts with, like, a hundred. You know, going from 0 to 100. So. [00:35:10] Speaker A: Unless you're walking into a pool. [00:35:11] Speaker C: Yes, unless you walk into a pool. So. Yeah. So the. The party. Less. [00:35:16] Speaker B: We. [00:35:17] Speaker C: We stayed at the party for a good three to four hours. Right before it started, everybody started to kind of play and stuff. I did fuck my partner at the time in front of people, but that was, like, as far as I went. [00:35:32] Speaker A: Were you nervous doing that? [00:35:33] Speaker C: I was a little, but it felt very. I was comfortable. I was. You know, I was like, oh, my God. But then I was like, this feels right, right? This is weird, but okay, this is. I'm going with it. But then we had plans that night, and I ended up having my first MFM for, like, three hours that night. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Mfm, for those of y' all who don't know what that is, it stands for male, female, male Threesome. [00:35:58] Speaker C: And my first time having anal on my turn, like, saying, yes, I do want to do this. Absolutely. And, like, so half of the three hours was, like, anal. And I was like. I was like. [00:36:11] Speaker A: So you went analyzing. You had an anal at your first. [00:36:16] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I was. I was. Yeah, I was very proud of myself. I was just like, fuck, yes. I did this for, like, three hours. I mean, it wasn't straight three hours. You know, you take little breaks and smoke and chill and whatever. [00:36:27] Speaker A: Change the pillows out. [00:36:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:31] Speaker C: So that was, like, the first kind of party slash interaction that I had. But I definitely don't suggest going to a party first, because other. Every single other party I've ever gone to, it's down to fuck. And it's. It would be very difficult to just jump into that situation. [00:36:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:48] Speaker C: The first time I went to Secrets was kind of as similar to. Well, not similar to you, because I didn't end up fucking, but I did give my partner a blowjob kind of around the corner. And then one of the, like, security came around the corner and was like, nice job, guys. So there was a camera. A camera. So I ended up doing it for more people than I thought. But so, yeah, so it was like two. Two very good experiences. But you, you know, have little. Little bitty firsts that you do. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Nice. Nice. And I agree with you, like, when. If you are a person that's out there. And this is, let's say your first time. Do whatever you're comfortable with. And what I recommend is similar to what Charlie said is just go there and observe and, you know, just, you know, do your own recon mission and see how things are playing out. You know, see if you vibe with it. Maybe you don't. Maybe you just want to watch. Yeah. Like you said, maybe you just want to have sexual relations with the partner that you went up there with. [00:37:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:55] Speaker A: You know. [00:37:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:56] Speaker A: But I feel like for most people, they typically don't play with others the first time they go. [00:38:03] Speaker C: At least the first couple times. Usually, I mean, usually there's some daring people and there's some people that kind of have played in the past, but it wasn't technically swinging, that they're a little bit more comfortable with the situation for the most part. It takes most people. And like, I was thinking about our friend's sister, the Rob Lifestyles. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Okay. [00:38:26] Speaker C: Sister. And she was there at Secrets for the first time. And I think when you go, you're like, I'm gonna do everything. And then you get, you know, and she. And then as she's leaving, she's like, you know, I had, you know, quite a few firsts. I was like, that's what you do. It's just like little bitty little baby steps so you don't overwhelm yourself. [00:38:44] Speaker A: Baby steps, baby steps. So let's talk about this next topic. [00:38:50] Speaker C: Okay. How people flirt, connect and vibe without pressure. [00:38:55] Speaker A: Okay. [00:38:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:56] Speaker A: So like people are going to flirt with you, especially if you're a lady. [00:39:02] Speaker C: Yes. [00:39:03] Speaker A: Maybe not so much if you're a guy, but I mean, yeah, people will flirt with you if you're, you know, a good looking guy. But if you're a woman, people will flirt with you. Yes, 100% yes. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Right? [00:39:17] Speaker C: There's. Yes, it's. You're gonna get flirted with and the guys get flirted with too. It's just a little different. I mean, understand that the women are what is attracting everything. Like everything is driven by women in the lifestyle. So without the women, it would be a bunch of dicks walking around, you know. [00:39:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Sausages. [00:39:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:38] Speaker C: So, yeah, everybody flirts. You know, it takes some time to get used to, especially if you haven't done it for, you know, 20 years since you were dating and stuff. So it does take a little getting used to and. But it's kind of like you had training wheels, you know? [00:39:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Kind of like riding a bike. You have, you know, you could step on a bike well, sit on a bike after 20 years of not. [00:40:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:02] Speaker A: Riding, and you're like, oh, my God, I remember, do this. Yeah, I still have balance. [00:40:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:06] Speaker A: So how would you say, Charlie, that people should flirt or connect with other. [00:40:11] Speaker C: People without pressure or without feeling like they're pressured? Yeah, I think I. Okay, so if you go to a house party, I feel like you are going to no doubt feel pressure. You're going to. People are going to want to fuck. So avoiding that situation in general is going to help a lot. But people at clubs kind of generally don't assume that you are down to fuck because there are so many different dynamics. So I feel like you can feel a lot freer to talk to people at the clubs. And especially if you're brand new and you are terrified, just tell people that you're new. Some people are like, oh, okay, thanks. No, no, no, thanks. I don't really want to deal with new people tonight or whatever. Do not, you know, don't be. Feel rejected and don't. Don't get your feelings hurt. It's just sometimes you have a vibe, you know, you have a idea that you just want to fuck and party and being around new people is not gonna do that for you. But there are other people that are like, fuck, yeah, I'm in the mood for, you know, hanging out and, you know, walking people through this situation or, you know, just being nice and friendly and, you know, answering questions and stuff. [00:41:26] Speaker A: Okay. [00:41:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I think. [00:41:27] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. Don't be a wallflower. [00:41:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:29] Speaker A: All right, so next, let's talk about Charlie. Let's talk about club rules, etiquette, and the unspoken codes that everybody should know. [00:41:37] Speaker B: Okay? [00:41:38] Speaker A: And I'll preface it by saying this, that the club rules is really, for the most part, gonna be or pertain to the clubs. Yeah, Right. [00:41:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:47] Speaker A: Yeah. But etiquette is etiquette, right? [00:41:49] Speaker C: It goes. Yeah, it goes the clubs, it goes the houses, it goes everything. [00:41:52] Speaker A: Okay, so what are your thoughts on that? Like, what are certain rules or etiquette and unspoken things that people should know? [00:41:58] Speaker C: Okay, so there was one thing I was thinking of earlier that I did want to say because I had in my mind that this is kind of how the house parties and stuff were going to be. And it is still so far from the truth. So I don't know if it's still an issue today in schools, like in junior high and high school, but in my day, and I'm not going to even go there. If you were in junior high or high school and you were around boys, you were going to get groped. Like you're going to get groped. Your ass is going to get grabbed, your tits are going to get grabbed like it's, it's insane. So I don't think it's that bad anymore. But that is what I had in my mind. Like I thought when you go to a house party, it's all up for grabs and people are just going to be grabbing you and touching you and stuff. And that is so far from the truth. Even if you do go to a house party and it is a down to fuck party, you still have consent if somebody touches you without consent that you need to tell somebody because that is bullshit. It's like that is still. That is whether you go to a club, a party, no matter what, you do not touch people without consent. So that is across the board. [00:43:04] Speaker A: Yeah, and I'm glad that you said that. So especially this is for guys, right? So obviously it does go both ways. [00:43:11] Speaker C: Sorry. [00:43:11] Speaker A: So obviously this does go both ways. So women shouldn't touch guys without consent. But let's just be real about it. It's the woman that we want to make sure feel safe and secure and comfortable. So usually. [00:43:27] Speaker C: Sorry. So sorry. [00:43:29] Speaker A: So this woman is wanting me to make edit the out of this. [00:43:33] Speaker C: I know, I'm so sorry. I just want to put in an astronomy because I don't know if you know this but women can be some of the worst offenders of this. And I'm not kidding, if you talk to most unicorns, you will find out that women are some of the worst offenders. And it's fucking bullshit. You do not have consent to touch other women just because you're a woman. You do not have consent to shove anything inside women because you're a fucking woman. Please understand that consent is across the board no matter what sex you are. Sorry. Correct. [00:44:03] Speaker A: No problem. And yeah, that's true. Because a lot of times what happens is at these parties and clubs. [00:44:11] Speaker A: Many a high percentage of the women are bisexual. So sometimes it's assumed that every woman is bisexual and some may not be bisexual. 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May actually be worse when it, when you're talking about anal, but it's like, and that is, that is a typical story that, that happens way more often than you think. Not the anal situation, but the woman taking charge of the man's dick and doing things with it to the woman without consent or, or overly powerful or, or whatever. So it is a thing. And I want to make sure that women understand that just because you're a woman, you do not have fucking consent. [00:46:49] Speaker A: Correct. Correct. But literally nine times out of 10, us guys, we, it is gonna be the guys. [00:46:55] Speaker C: Usually it's gonna be the guys. [00:46:56] Speaker A: We give you mutual consents. So like we're. Have fun. Hey, my body is your body. Treat me like a machine and a toy. You know, let's just be real. Yes, but consent does be given. Yes. Yeah. So all right. And then it's very important as well that especially if you are going to a club or a party, if you don't know, make sure you ask, make sure you understand what the rules are. So usually if it's on a website or a page Like. [00:47:27] Speaker A: SLC or. [00:47:29] Speaker C: Oh, sdc. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Sdc, sorry. Or Cassidy. There's usually gonna be club rules, Right. But one unspoken code that goes everywhere is consent. Consent, consent. If you are unsure, ask always, always, always ask. You know, you will never go wrong by asking. And always play towards the side of being conservative, you know, with what you're doing, you know. [00:47:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:59] Speaker A: And you know, if you're having sex with somebody or pillowing them, you can go. [00:48:05] Speaker A: Go slower and the lady can tell you to go faster or whatnot. Right? [00:48:09] Speaker C: Yes, definitely. [00:48:10] Speaker A: Okay, so next let's talk about the difference between a chill house party versus a high end lifestyle club. [00:48:20] Speaker C: Okay, let's do it. [00:48:23] Speaker A: Let's do it. [00:48:24] Speaker C: Okay, let's do it. I think this is a good part because I was, I, I thought of something and I was like, okay, okay. The chill, the house parties. One thing we, that happened to us this weekend, I would like to bring up just real quick, I think this is a good point. I was. We went in blind. Usually I like to get at least some kind of list of people who are going or I like to know who is throwing the party because that can give you a good litmus for whoever is throwing the party. They usually are bringing in like minded and like looking people, like similarly looking people. So you know who you're attracted to so you want to follow those people. And so we went in blind this weekend and it was interesting. It was not an necessarily our crowd, but we got out of the house, you know. [00:49:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:17] Speaker C: But yes, you can ask for a guest list. You can ask who is throwing the party so that you can. I like to know that I'm at least gonna be attracted to at least a couple people at a house party because if it's a down to party, I better be able to want to at least a couple people. So. [00:49:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, now I did. There was two ladies that were to me. [00:49:41] Speaker C: Oh yes, yes, yes. [00:49:44] Speaker A: And it was funny too because as we were driving home, I told you that and you're like, I know exactly what two ladies. [00:49:52] Speaker A: You wanted to fuck those two Latina chicks, didn't you? And I was like, I sure did. But I mean the vibe of the whole party though. Yeah, it was very weird. And both you and I were kind of put off by the energy. [00:50:07] Speaker C: Yes. [00:50:07] Speaker A: And not saying that it, it's bad, but you know, different strokes for different folks. [00:50:12] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. [00:50:13] Speaker A: For sure. [00:50:14] Speaker C: And it's an experience, you know. Yeah, it's. Sometimes those can be interesting and you know, we're gonna count it off as an interesting Situation. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go. There you go. And I mean with the chill house party. [00:50:29] Speaker A: The good thing about going to a chill house party is, you know, you can just kind of dress up however you want to dress. I mean, I mean, don't go dress like a slob. [00:50:37] Speaker C: Yes. No, no, not in like yoga pants and shit. Usually there's some kind of a theme. So. And you want to start off with something sexy. Yeah, it can, it's just whatever you are comfortable with. [00:50:46] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And one thing that I tell Charlie all the time is you will never go wrong with a little black dress. [00:50:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:52] Speaker B: Never. [00:50:53] Speaker C: Yes, because. Absolutely correct. [00:50:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I mean, you could go to a chill house party in a little black dress. You can go to a high end lifestyle in a little black dress. And you're good. You're never going to be underdressed or overdressed in a little black dress. [00:51:05] Speaker C: Exactly. And something I don't have that I need to get is some kind of like, like what is it, kind of a raincoat? What is that a. Anyway, it's like an overcoat or kind of an overcoat, but it's got, it's, you know, cinched at the waist. Some kind of coat. [00:51:22] Speaker A: Oh, a pea coat. [00:51:23] Speaker C: Not necessarily like a light coat or jacket that you can wear that covers up what slut wear you're going to have on. So that if you do want to wear a little slutty stuff, but you don't want your neighbors to see you or your ass is hanging out and you know, it wouldn't be good for the neighborhood kids to see you walking to your car. [00:51:41] Speaker A: That is literally a lady's pea coats. They're stitched in the waist. [00:51:44] Speaker C: Well, yeah, but a pea coat kind of is wool. [00:51:47] Speaker A: Okay. [00:51:47] Speaker C: And I'm talking more of like a light raincoat kind of thing. A trench coat. Thank you. Trench coat. [00:51:52] Speaker A: Okay. That's. [00:51:53] Speaker C: You know, if you look in the movies and the woman is going to show up with nothing underneath or like lingerie, she's usually wearing some kind of a trench coat. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Okay. [00:52:00] Speaker C: So. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Yeah, you're gonna be cold. [00:52:01] Speaker C: Yes, for sure. I mean, they have furry ones. Easy. But that's. Yes, that is very A good thing to have some kind of a coat that you can wear over things wherever you live. If you live in Florida, it needs to be very, very light, you know? [00:52:16] Speaker A: Yeah, correct. Now with the high end lifestyle club, usually there's gonna be more formality to that. Right. So usually people are going to be dressed a certain way and things may be a little bit More rigid. But just know the rules before you go. Yeah, okay. And you'll be good. Right. And guys, when you go out, I mean, one thing that I will say dress wise is, you know, go in some dress shoes, you know, that's good. You know, go in some slacks or some nice pressed jeans. You know, the darker the jeans, the better, you know, don't have holes in them. Don't be sagging. If you're fit, then you can wear like a nice V neck shirt that conserves your muscles. If you're not, you know, you can wear like a polo shirt that fits you. [00:53:08] Speaker C: Yeah, whatever. [00:53:09] Speaker A: Or a dress shirt. [00:53:11] Speaker C: Yeah, right, Absolutely. A good button down is always. Always works. [00:53:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And you can always go in a nice dress jacket, too. A dress jacket. And you can even wear that with the V neck shirt, you know, and just go, ready to party. But don't go in there with, you know, a jersey on or some sandals and socks on or nothing. You know, some PJs on. [00:53:31] Speaker C: You guys, this is like you're dating. You are showing up and women have to want to fuck you. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Yes. [00:53:37] Speaker C: They are not just showing up and going, I don't care what your dick is packaged in, I am ready to fuck anything. No, you don't. No, no, it's not like that. You have to make effort. [00:53:52] Speaker C: Just. Yeah, don't just make some effort. And a lot of the clubs, they have theme night, so it helps you. It points you in a direction, you know, oh, black, all red. We're doing white tonight, you know, whatever the hell. So. And, you know, look, look good with your lady. A lot of couples don't do that, and is so shocking. [00:54:13] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:54:14] Speaker C: Like, if you're gonna go out and. And she's got. [00:54:19] Speaker C: Sequins on and he's got khakis on, you guys are gonna look like you're not together. So kind of coordinate. It doesn't have to match exactly. Just like if she's dressed up, he needs to be dressed up, you know, it doesn't work the other way around. [00:54:32] Speaker A: Yeah. You guys need to go in there like a unit. [00:54:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:35] Speaker A: Looking like y' all belong together. [00:54:37] Speaker C: You're. You're trying to, like, meet couples as a couple. You're. You can't just put the nicer looking person out front and try to pull in whatever you get, you know? [00:54:47] Speaker A: Right. So speaking of that, Charlie, we want to talk about how do couples and singles actually mingle? [00:54:56] Speaker C: Yes. [00:54:57] Speaker A: And what doesn't happen like people typically expect it to happen. [00:55:01] Speaker C: Yes. [00:55:01] Speaker A: Right. [00:55:02] Speaker C: Yes. [00:55:02] Speaker A: So you're at the lifestyle party, right? You're looking good. Your lady or your guy is looking good. You guys are ready to mingle and stuff like that and you know, hopefully get your dingle dingled. And so how do you approach somebody that you find attractive? [00:55:22] Speaker C: You walk up to them and you start a conversation. You kind of. I. We both have talked about this many times and it's like you are. You walk up to somebody and say, hi, how are you guys? [00:55:36] Speaker A: Are you having. [00:55:37] Speaker C: Guy, are you having a good time tonight? Are you having. [00:55:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, hey, hey, let's roleplay this. Yeah, yeah. Having a good time. My name is Doc. What's your name? [00:55:45] Speaker C: My name's Charlie. Oh, it's nice to meet you. [00:55:47] Speaker A: It's very, very nice to meet you. Yeah. [00:55:50] Speaker C: So very nice. [00:55:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Where are you from? [00:55:54] Speaker C: Okay. So immediately he is interacting with me. He is showing me that he is also interested. [00:56:01] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:02] Speaker C: Now you. This is a great way to break the ice. Break the ice, but also test the waters. If they are, if they give you cold answers, if they're like giving you one word responses, then you know that they're not interested. You don't even have to go further. Go, just keep moving. And it's like a perfect way. You're not putting yourself out there too much. It's, you know, you're not like, hi, will you me? [00:56:26] Speaker A: No. [00:56:27] Speaker C: You just have to see if they're even interested. You might not be interested after you start com. Having a conversation or ha. Or start talking about like what your dynamic is. It might not fit. So just start a conversation and see if they are responsive. I think that's a good idea. [00:56:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And I like that. And I've like employed that for so long. [00:56:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Because yeah, if I go up to like, let's say a couple or a single lady, if I'm getting like one word responses or you know, if the lady's looking at the clock or her watch or whatever, you know, or, you know, looking at the other handsome guy that's behind me, you know, hey, I keep it moving and shaking, baby. Like I keep on moving, right. But it's like a thing of where I try and escalate the conversation. Right. So I start off small. Oh, I'm friendly, smiling, you know, going in there with confidence. [00:57:18] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:57:19] Speaker A: What not. But being friendly and whatnot and you know, you know, ask them, you know, about different things or blah, blah, blah, you know, and as I see a smile on her face and I see, you know, receptiveness from her. [00:57:31] Speaker C: Yes. [00:57:32] Speaker A: Or if there's a couple, you know, I approach the guy first and then, you know, segue to the lady. Right. So guys, when you're approaching a couple, always go to the guy first and ask. Start your conversation with the guy first. [00:57:47] Speaker C: Yes. [00:57:48] Speaker A: And then women do the same thing as well, go to the woman of the couple. Yes. So. [00:57:54] Speaker C: Or sometimes. Okay, now I feel like for guys, they really need to go for the guy first because that's like a big thing. [00:58:02] Speaker A: 100%. It's a respect thing. [00:58:03] Speaker C: Yes. It is a respecting. Sometimes with couples, I will go to. To both of them, but I'm. I'm heavily concentrating on the wife, so. Because I feel weird. Just like it feels sometimes like I'm asking permission from a mom. You know, it's like. But. But I'm also, like, gauging their. You know, depending on the couple, I might go to her straightforward. But a lot of the times I pick couples that are more. [00:58:32] Speaker C: Kind of in on a team, and they usually. I've already observed them for a while. You know, they. I like to approach them at the same time, but for stalking them. Yeah. Yeah, I do. Yeah. That's the only way to make sure, you know, you get. You're not getting into some drama. So. But this. This also reminds me of. I think I've gone to way more meet and greets than you have. Is that correct? [00:58:58] Speaker A: I don't know. Probably. I've been to a few. [00:59:01] Speaker C: Okay. [00:59:01] Speaker A: You know, not a bunch. [00:59:02] Speaker C: No. We. In Florida, we had a couple that would throw them, and they are very good at it. And so if you can find a. [00:59:11] Speaker A: Good meet and greet, tell the people what exactly is a meet and greet? [00:59:15] Speaker C: Okay. So the meet and greets that they would throw, they would rent out a bar or a section of, you know, a big club where there. There's a bar or whatever. And it would be hours for the night. So we could mingle, we could drink, we could flirt, we could do like, we've done oral in the club before. You know, a guy will get a blowjob. Maybe the guy will go down on a lady. There's not a lot of nudity. But there, you know, you can. I love meet and greets because you can test chemistry out. [00:59:48] Speaker A: Okay. [00:59:48] Speaker C: So you can leave a meet and greet with numbers for three to five couples that, you know, you have chemistry with, and you can set up meets in the future. [00:59:57] Speaker A: Okay. [00:59:58] Speaker C: I love those situations for that. And you can meet a lot of times unicorns like those because it's a great way to meet a lot of people without the fear of, you know, getting accosted or having a really bad night with a couple that, you know, you barely know. So, yeah, it's a. It's a fun thing. And usually single guys can go to those. Sometimes it just depends. This specific couple, they have the couples. [01:00:23] Speaker C: Sponsor a single guy for, like, three parties, and then if that single guy has, you know, behaved himself, then he can start coming by himself. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Okay, that makes sense. [01:00:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I like it. They're a low stress way of getting into this. [01:00:37] Speaker A: Okay, I love that. I love that. And, yeah, so. And I do approach couples, you know, but as you. When you approach couples, you go for the. Spend more time with a woman in conversation. I do it vice versa. I spend more time with the guy and then try and segue that to the girl. Right. And I've had ladies that, when I was. [01:01:08] Speaker A: With the ex wife, where, you know, they. I would flirt with them and go back to the ex wife, and we're talking and conversing, and then the woman comes over to us and, you know, they start small talk with the ex wife, and they're like, hey, do you mind? Would it be okay if I play with your husband? And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, which I thought was totally respectful. [01:01:33] Speaker C: Very. It makes it so much easier, especially if you have any issues or if you have, you know, if it's just like to. It's just nice to have respect for that and. And them going, hey, can we do this? Or hey, thank you so much for letting us, you know, for your husband fucking me, you know, kind of. Thank you for the dick. [01:01:53] Speaker A: Your husband brought some good pillow. [01:01:55] Speaker C: Yes. [01:01:57] Speaker A: All right, last but not least, let's talk about safety, consent, and boundaries, which are the real backbone of the lifestyle. [01:02:04] Speaker C: Okay. [01:02:05] Speaker A: So you being a woman, obviously, I'd like for you to talk about the importance of safety, consent, and boundaries. [01:02:13] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. I would say for the most part, men don't necessarily have to worry too much about. [01:02:24] Speaker C: Being murdered or accosted or raped or, you know, the big, big ones. So mostly so I have gone to clubs and parties as a unicorn by myself. I have gone with partners. And I will say the single guys that are good are good across the board. The single guys that now. And even husbands have done this. So it's like. It is not just the single guys, but as soon as they get me alone, that is when they want the condoms to come off and all the boundaries to drop. So understand that your solo things are. You really have to be on your Game. The woman has to, she's really got to be on her game. So if you do have a partner that likes to watch, get comfortable with that first. Because as soon as you start going on your own, the guys try to get away with a lot more and it is super frustrating. I honestly, I kind of, maybe that's why I try to avoid the single stuff too. I think that is why, because I just get so frustrated. It's like they want so much more when it's my by myself way more than I. Than is cool to ask for even you know, it's like unless you talk about it. But so safety. The best thing that I can say for women in general is. And this is the one of the hardest things that women have to get over. And it is, I don't care how old you are. It is, it is a tough thing. I still, I still find myself not speaking up when I need to speak up. I have found ways to get out of things if I can't use my voice. But. [01:04:05] Speaker C: Speaking up and sticking to your guns and making sure that if something is going on that you are uncomfortable with that you can stop the situation that you can speak up. That's the biggest worry that you should have. If you can't do that, make sure you are. That is, it's. Make sure you can do that actually before you start playing. Even if you're playing with your partner. You and I, there's so many times when it's like, hey, I couldn't get your eye, your eye contact. I mean you were busy, but I was busy pillowing. But sometimes it's hard to get attention now. We've, we've morphed our things and we've changed how we do things so that I can get your attention easier. But sometimes things are going on and it's like, hey, you know, can you go easy on the lady? The guy is having a little trouble over here and hearing her like. [01:05:00] Speaker C: Is not helping him. You know, stuff like that. But, but other than that, there's a safety. You need to have like. [01:05:08] Speaker C: Like you need to have non verbal cues to each other so that if the woman, it's usually the woman, you, you would not. I mean, I think when guys listen to their wives and their girlfriends and stuff, you're thinking of yourself and things that you would do and not do, but you're not thinking of all of the things that we have put up with with other guys. Like every time I have a boyfriend and like both guys that I have dated in the lifestyle, they Are floored by the things that. That I get. [01:05:42] Speaker C: Approached with, messaged with. It's just. It's insane. And so it's like you don't know the depths of what men can do and go into until you have looked at a woman's inbox from a lifestyle situation. So. Yeah. So make sure you can speak up for yourself. Make sure you aren't putting yourself in situations where there is not someone looking out for you. [01:06:09] Speaker A: Correct. [01:06:10] Speaker C: If you are a unicorn by yourself and you are at a club, tell the bouncer that you were there by yourself, and they could check in on you every once in a while. And they do a great job of doing that most of the time. If you're at a house party, make sure you know the owner and make sure that they know that you're there by yourself and that they need to help you, you know, because if you're a hot wife, you got your husband to constantly watch for you, and that's. We talk about that. [01:06:37] Speaker A: Correct. [01:06:37] Speaker C: At parties all the time. It's like, if you have somebody to watch your back, make sure the guy's keeping on his condom. Make sure nobody gets out of hand. It's awesome. So having that. Yeah, it's. It's good. But just be careful. Make sure you know what you want and what you will not do before you go into things. [01:06:54] Speaker A: Yes. And don't be an. Like. I was. So you. You brought up. Oh, no story where you said that you're with the guy at Ellsworth with the girl. We were playing. So here's the story, y'. All. [01:07:09] Speaker A: So the story is we were playing with a couple, and the guy was with Charlie, and I was with the lady. And me and lady were. We're having a fun time. You know, I'm reeling her. Usually I'm more sensual. [01:07:23] Speaker C: Yes. [01:07:24] Speaker A: And whatnot. But, like, I'm just not want that. Oh, no, she did not want that. Yeah, I was. Was, like, destroying that. [01:07:31] Speaker C: Yes. [01:07:32] Speaker A: Like, I gave no quarter to that. Like. And she was. She was singing an opera. [01:07:38] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. [01:07:39] Speaker A: And the guy, he was being more sensual with you. [01:07:43] Speaker C: But let me. Let me preface this. He did an amazing. He was very good. He was very, very good. But. And it was. It was nice because most women get you the sensual type, and a lot of guys think. Or a lot of guys just like, the jackhammering. So when I get somebody like that, I'm like, I get that now. All right. Okay. So he was very good. So that's. That's what kind of was throwing me. But I, I guess if that's not your normal style and you usually don't, you know, pound that pussy, you know, hearing it, right next door is, I mean, like literally on the same bed. Right next door. [01:08:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. We were right next to story to each other. And so what happened is the guy, he had some dick problems, you know, I call it intermittent dick, you know, and hey, look, it happens to everybody. It happens to me, it happens to everybody. So let's just preface it by saying this, right? Absolutely. No shame in the game. But anyways, this guy had intermittent dick issues and I'm pounding his lady. Yes, yes. And so Charlie, she's always sweet and good. She never makes a guy feel less than or whatnot, you know. Yeah, you're welcome. You know, you, you may give him a blow job or, you know, do whatever else, right? So me, I should have been, you know, looking, you know, and you know, I kind of saw you guys slow down. But hey, I, I thought I was on a porn. I film content and do porn. So I'm thinking I'm opening up for the camera and I'm like, like her and slapping her ass and like that. And she's just going wild, right? And then finally, after about maybe five more minutes of that, I kind of look over and I see you two just kind of like laying on the bed next to each other talking. And then I'm like, oh, maybe I should like stop or slow down. Right? Yeah. And so at that point I'm all sweating and like that and you know, because I burned a bunch of calories. [01:09:36] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:09:37] Speaker A: And you know, she's sweating and whatnot. And so she goes over, she goes over to her guy and is, you know, they're talking and whatnot. And then you come over to me and then you promptly sit on my lap because I sit in the chair. And then I start the. Out of you. [01:09:56] Speaker C: Yep. [01:09:56] Speaker A: And then you're like, oh, my God. [01:09:58] Speaker C: Oh my God, I'm squirting. I'm squirting, I'm squirting. [01:10:02] Speaker A: And like, you know, I didn't even think about it. Yeah. [01:10:05] Speaker C: Because honestly, I thought they had left by then and that they had not. [01:10:09] Speaker A: There's right on the bed. [01:10:10] Speaker B: Nope. [01:10:11] Speaker A: And they were looking very grim faced. [01:10:13] Speaker C: Yes, yes. That was probably not the best. [01:10:16] Speaker A: It wasn't. It wasn't. Because like, I was going to tell on you and like, the more you screamed and was like, I'm squirting. [01:10:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:22] Speaker A: The harder I went. [01:10:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:24] Speaker A: And then I was like, I was having a fun time, right? [01:10:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:27] Speaker A: And then, you know, he kind of like walked off and you could tell he was very frustrated and very, you know, probably a little bit embarrassed down. [01:10:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:34] Speaker A: Right. And, and I've experienced that before and that was the thing where, you know, I felt like I was not being. [01:10:44] Speaker A: I wasn't being a good lifestyle person at that point. You know, I was being very selfish. So I apologize. No, you're good. But don't be that guy. [01:10:53] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Try to the, the what men can do is check visually check in with your partner often. [01:11:00] Speaker A: Yes. [01:11:01] Speaker C: Until you get to where you are comfortable with the non verbal cues that you've got going and until you know that she's having fun and understand that with, with guys having fun can turn into not fun really quickly. Like, I feel like you guys are so spoiled because women very different to fuck. [01:11:27] Speaker A: So yes, I feel like you women are spoiled because you don't have to worry about having a hard dick. [01:11:31] Speaker C: No, no, that is, I am not taking away that from you at all. I'm just saying yes, it, it's, it can go from a hundred % fun to 0% not fun very quickly. And it's like what the happened. So just check in with your partner often so that you both can have. [01:11:50] Speaker A: Fun. Exactly. I. [01:11:52] Speaker B: Agree. [01:11:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So, all right, so this was another episode of the Bulls and Queens and we want to hear from you. All right. Do you have any funny or spicy or real life story from your own adventures or something that pertains to what we just talked about on this inside the lifestyle? What it's really, really like to go to a LS party or club? Yeah. Do you have a story about that? We want to hear from you. Make sure you email us atbulls and queensmail.com that is bullsandqueensmail.com and make sure that you follow my fun lifestyle. [01:12:30] Speaker C: Stuff@Dotchchocolatefans.Com and you can find my stuff@funcharlie.com. [01:12:37] Speaker A: And we hope this episode helped somebody to become a better, better pillower at a lifestyle party or club. I really beat that pillow to death, didn't. [01:12:48] Speaker C: I? You really. [01:12:48] Speaker A: Did. [01:12:50] Speaker A: And if you want me to pillow your wife, make sure you hit me up. And if you want Charlie to pillow your guy, hit me up. So until next time, y' all be blessed, you guys have fun and y' all stay sexy. [01:13:03] Speaker C: Bye. [01:13:04] Speaker B: Bye. Thank you for listening to everybody's favorite black man candy Doc Chocolate of the Bulls and Queens podcast. 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