Episode 151

November 10, 2025

00:59:01

151 | From Bulls & Unicorns to LIFESTYLE Couples!! (Steve & Amy join Doc & Charlie)

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151 | From Bulls & Unicorns to LIFESTYLE Couples!! (Steve & Amy join Doc & Charlie)
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151 | From Bulls & Unicorns to LIFESTYLE Couples!! (Steve & Amy join Doc & Charlie)

Nov 10 2025 | 00:59:01

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  • ·✨ What happens when two Bulls meet two Unicorns and sparks fly beyond the playroom? In Episode 151, DOC & CHARLIE interview our friends, STEVE & AMY. We dive into how we met our partners — and how the four of us eventually crossed paths in the lifestyle. From flirty beginnings to real connection, this one’s got chemistry written all over it.
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  • ·Fun Charlie (co-host): Website · X · Instagram
  • ·Amy / CA Unicorn Girl: Website · X
  • ·Steve / Idaho Viking 88: Website · X
  • ·Mentioned on this show: Taylor Upton · Sin City Hotwife · Front Porch Swingers · Jade Li · BlackBeard

 

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: What's up? What's up, everybody? It is Doc Chocolate of the Bulls and Queens Podcast, and I am up here with my beautiful co host, Fun Charlie, and we have another awesome episode that we actually have some guests on board. So, guests, how are y' all doing? [00:00:19] Speaker B: We're doing great. [00:00:21] Speaker C: Doing great. [00:00:22] Speaker A: Yay. And we are going to introduce them here after the intro. [00:00:29] Speaker D: You are now listening to the Bulls and Queens podcast, where we have sexy fun, exploring the lifestyle and swinging exploits of black bulls, queens of spades, cuckold fantasies, open relationships, seductive interracial encounters, and other kinky shenanigans that are sure to get you off in a very good way. So get ready, ladies, and make sure you take notes, gentlemen, because here is your home host, that super sexy, bald black man, Candy D. Chocolate. [00:01:37] Speaker A: All right, we are back. So let's go ahead and introduce our guests. Matter of fact, I'm not going to even introduce the guests. You guys introduce yourselves. I'm lazy. I feel like you guys are family. So y' all can introduce yourselves. [00:01:50] Speaker B: All right, well, I am Amy or Ca. Unicorn Girl. [00:01:56] Speaker C: And I'm Steve, ID Viking888. No, just two eights. [00:02:02] Speaker A: Just two eights. Okay. Just two eights. [00:02:05] Speaker C: I've only had a portion of the cup coffee today, so. [00:02:09] Speaker A: Hey, once he drinks another cup of coffee, he's triple eights. [00:02:12] Speaker C: Yes. [00:02:13] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:02:17] Speaker C: Right. [00:02:18] Speaker A: All right, so we have all known each other to some degree or other for about, I think, two, actually more than two years. Like three years. And we actually consider you guys really, really good friends of ours. And obviously in the lifestyle and content creation, when you're a couple, you want to be able to connect with other couples that basically roll along the same pathway that you're going and. Because it just makes the journey better. [00:02:51] Speaker E: Yes. [00:02:51] Speaker C: All right. [00:02:53] Speaker A: And we definitely want Steve and Amy to be, like, frequent guests on the podcast because we just really, really jive well together. [00:03:04] Speaker E: Yes. But it's also a very unique dynamic. [00:03:09] Speaker D: Because. [00:03:11] Speaker E: Amy and Steve. So Amy was a unicorn and Steve was a bull. So just like you were a bull and I was a unicorn. So. But the also dynamic is that you are the faster moving partner as the male and she is the faster moving partner as the female. So we have opposite sex opinions and. Yeah. [00:03:32] Speaker B: Experiences too. [00:03:33] Speaker E: Thank you. [00:03:35] Speaker A: It really is. And we're gonna actually talk about that. Yeah. Right. [00:03:39] Speaker E: Yes. [00:03:40] Speaker A: And so before we get started, I want you guys that are listening to the podcast, make sure that you guys leave a five star review on whatever platform you're listening to this on, whether it is Apple or Spotify. Leave a five star review, leave some comments. If you want to leave a one star comment, please. Kick rocks. Yeah, ass rocks. Like sharp edged rocks. Not the little cute pebbles. Yeah. Round rocks. [00:04:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:08] Speaker A: And yeah, just kick them, kick them, kick them, kick them. All right. And then make sure you check out my website@doc chocolatefans.com. check out Charlie's website@fun charlie.com. okay, so let's get started by talking about how we met. Okay, so. So I feel like this is the time for us fast people, us fast whores to talk about how we met. Right? So, Amy, the beginning. Yeah, the beginning. So, Amy, do you want to take this one? [00:04:39] Speaker B: Sure. So I met Doc at POD Bash. It was an event and I was chatting with you before that and I was like, oh, I want me some chocolate for sure. And he put on his document, chocolate uniform, and did an exam on me. And I'm going to tell you, that's all it took, that exam. And the way he licked my pussy, I was like, oh, yeah, very good. But. But I will say so. That was our first experience. But when I really clicked with you was when I went to Vegas and I ended up having to go solo because my friend couldn't go last minute. And Doc cleared his plans to hang out with me. And he, he took care of me. He really did. I even got in a sticky situation where I got really, really intoxicated. We'll just say that. And he had to carry me. He had to carry me out of Fremont Street. And what I love is he's always joking. He was like, I know a black man carrying a white girl. She's at practice, but I swear, she's. [00:05:56] Speaker E: My friend, I'm taking care of. Consensual. [00:06:01] Speaker B: This is consensual. He gets the Uber. Totally took care of me. And right then I told him. I was like, okay, you're stuck with me. You're my friend forever. I told him. I was like, you're stuck with me. You don't have a choice. You were my friend and I love you forever. [00:06:20] Speaker A: And I love you too, Amy. And it was funny because, yeah, it was Halloween time in Vegas. And for those of you guys, ladies who have not been to a Halloween holiday out here in Vegas, it is crazy, you know, and so we're down on Fremont street and my lovely friend, she gets intoxicated and so is easy. [00:06:41] Speaker E: To do on Fremont Street. [00:06:42] Speaker A: Yes, it is, you know, but, you know, I'm lucky that, um, you know, more of the petite ladies so I was able to. So you, you were kind of easy to carry. And so, you know, looking around, people are kind of looking at me. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey. I know I'm a black guy, you know, but just because I'm hearing this little, cute, knocked out blonde chick, you know, blonde back then. [00:07:07] Speaker E: I was blonde back then. [00:07:08] Speaker A: I'm not. There's nothing nefarious going on. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Right, right. But that was it. And we, we had some deep conversations too. [00:07:19] Speaker A: And we were both single back then. [00:07:21] Speaker B: We were both single and, you know, we talked about divorce and just that's what I love about the lifestyle is you meet people and you can become really quick good friends because you just can be open, you could talk, you have nothing to hide. You don't put up this wall. It's like I was letting him into, like, hey, this is how it is. This is how I am. I let him see me, the true me, and he let me see the true him. And it was beautiful. And I still remember that we were at New York, New York, in that little like cafeteria place, eating pizza and just having this conversation. And that was when I knew, like, okay, this guy is amazing. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Pardon the interruption. If you're a cuckold gentleman, a stag, a voyeur, or maybe you're just a woman that likes to watch amateur BBC porn. If you are, I got a question to ask you. Do you want to follow Doc Chocolate's sexy ass adventures in playtime that I have with the most gorgeous hot wives, queens of spades and milfs out there? Now, if you answered yes, then you want to go ahead and pause this episode right now and go to my website@bullsandqueens.com and subscribe to my free OnlyFans page. So that's going to be at bulls and queens.com bulls and queens.com and click that button that says OnlyFans. And what's going to happen is you're going to get free access to my personal collection of videos, pictures of my kinky lifestyle adventures in my playtime that I have with my friends with benefits. And you'll also be able to chat with me and the other fans and also do custom requests. And I am on there daily. So for free access to my only fans for a limited time only, you guys, I want you to go to Bulls and queens.com, click that link that says OnlyFans and join the fan club. I'll see you on the other side. Now back to the spicy episode. [00:09:45] Speaker B: Not only fun to play with, but. [00:09:49] Speaker A: She was like she was like, I just don't like your dick. I like your personality. Thank you. Thank you. I don't like, just like your vagina, Amy. I like your personality too. And what was funny too was because, you know, we met through mutual friends and I believe it was Taylor Upton and Brenna from Front Porch Swingers. They were talking about you. Right. And so I was like, okay, I gotta. I gotta meet this Ca Unicorn chick. You know, I was like, okay, Ca Unicorn. [00:10:20] Speaker C: Okay. [00:10:20] Speaker A: You know, and so at the first pod dash, I think this was like about three years ago almost, you and I were chatting in telegram chat and you were gonna come down and then you had a stroke. [00:10:35] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:10:36] Speaker A: And so the one thing that stuck out to me, and I was telling this to Charlie, we were just talking. [00:10:43] Speaker E: About this the other day. [00:10:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, this, this woman, like, instead of worrying about her medical condition, she was like messaging me, apologetic. She was like, dog, I'm so, so sorry. I'm not sure if I can come out to Vegas Pot bash. I had a strobe. And by this time I had known that because, like, you know, everybody in the group had known that. And, you know, I think, you know, I was checking up on you and I think you were getting back to your messages because I'm sure you probably had dozens or hundreds of messages and you took time out of your day to even respond back to me. And you're. And you were being apologetic and I'm like, yo. I was like, why are you apologizing to me? I don't care about us collabing or doing whatever. Like, are you okay? Yeah, you know, like. And you were like, yeah, yeah, I'll try my best to come. And you actually came and you were on a cane. Right. And fucking love that. [00:11:39] Speaker E: Yeah. I was like, to meet this person. I fucking have. [00:11:44] Speaker A: He was, okay, Steve, Steve, your woman was. Came to the pool looking all sexy in a bikini with a cane and a big ass sun hat. [00:11:53] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:11:54] Speaker A: And she's like, hi, I'm Amy. And so I'm kind of thinking, and I'm like, okay, well, I'll just give you a hug. I'm not expecting anything. Right. I'm just expecting to just, you know, say hi and, you know, give you a kiss on the cheek or whatever. And then you're like, no, I am collabing. [00:12:08] Speaker C: You know. Right. She doesn't, she, she doesn't like getting crippled up. Prevent her from being naughty. This girl has. She doesn't. This girl has her focus on naughty. It's like. [00:12:23] Speaker A: Yes, Time to get naughty. [00:12:25] Speaker E: Yeah, let that. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:28] Speaker A: And, and let me tell you about this girl. So, like, you know, I'm, you know, going easy on her when we're filming our scene. And then Brad, Jade Lee's husband, he's filming and then, you know, I'm trying to take it easy and whatnot. And then this woman over here, she's up here doing squats and writing my dick and just like, yeah, where the does this come from? I'm like expecting this. And I was like, okay, later on that night, and then, you know, Amy's walking around on her cane and you know, she's like, talk. And I was like, what? She's like, those strippers are sexy. And I was like, they are. And she was like, I want to lick their asses. [00:13:12] Speaker C: Amy, my girl, that does not surprise me at all. [00:13:18] Speaker A: I was like this. I was like, I don't know if it's the stroke after effects. No, I don't think it's safe for you to just lick random strippers. Assholes. [00:13:29] Speaker C: Oh, she. She would go. She would go. She would bury. Yeah, we've been in a couple clubs where I'm just like, okay, honey, here's the money. Just don't miss out. [00:13:40] Speaker B: I do. I love. I don't know what it is about girls booty holes, but when they shake it in front of me, I'm like, oh, you're asking for it. You're just like telling me to lick that. [00:13:51] Speaker A: She's like, we eating tossed salad for dinner tonight? [00:13:54] Speaker B: Yes, I forgot about that. But yes. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Hey, don't worry, I'll make sure you keep on remembering that. So, so anyways, I mean, so Amy and I, we met multiple times over the next few years and then we were each going on our single person journey in the lifestyle. You know, she's a unicorn, I'm a bull. And then I, Amy meets Steve, who is also a bull like myself. And then I meet Charlie, who is also a unicorn. [00:14:27] Speaker E: Yes. And. [00:14:29] Speaker A: And then how did we all meet? [00:14:31] Speaker E: Well, how did, when did you guys meet? [00:14:33] Speaker B: We met in April of 24. [00:14:38] Speaker E: Yes, so did we. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Remember we were talking about that and I was like, okay, yeah, crap. [00:14:44] Speaker E: Okay, first tell us how you guys met and how did that happen? [00:14:49] Speaker B: So we met at our local lifestyle club. From the owner. The owner introduced. [00:14:54] Speaker C: The owner of the club introduced us. [00:14:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:14:56] Speaker E: And he. [00:14:57] Speaker B: So he introduced us. And I had seen, I had seen Steve and I was like, oh, that guy is fucking hot. Like, he is good looking. [00:15:09] Speaker A: He's a stud. [00:15:10] Speaker C: And I had Seen her, and I actually followed her on Instagram. So I had. I had known about her, and I just. A couple times she walked by and you look really great this evening. Or I think I said something. You look great. You look more beautiful in person than you do on your. [00:15:25] Speaker B: He would say things like that, but we didn't actually have our conversation. [00:15:32] Speaker C: Yeah. Joe, the owner of the club, walked up and said, I'm going to introduce you to somebody, because I was going through something similar to what Amy went through. And he walked me up to Amy, and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. And so she talked to me, and I was. I was having some pretty significant anxiety during that time, and she was just the sweetest, nicest person. She talked to me for 15 or 20 minutes that night at the. At the party, and I just completely. Anxiety's gone. I was like, okay, you know, no problem. I can do this. And I. The whole time I'm going, yeah, this girl is way out of my league. She is. I. She is so far out of my league, it's ridiculous. So I was like, I'm just gonna send her an email on one of the. The websites that I followed her on and just tell her, hey, you know, I appreciate you talking to me. I appreciate the time that you spent. You. My anxiety is so alleviated, and. And you were just so sweet to talk to me about that, and I really appreciate it. Sent the email. Didn't check that site for, like, four days. [00:16:46] Speaker B: And I had. And I had seen it and messaged him right away, and I was like. [00:16:53] Speaker C: And she gave me her phone number. [00:16:54] Speaker B: Yes, I gave him my phone number. I was like, you know what? I'm. The more outgoing. He's kind of more reserved, shy. So I was like, I want to. This guy. Oh, like, I'm just gonna put it out there. So I told him. I was like, hey, if you ever want to hang out privately, here's my number. [00:17:12] Speaker C: And I didn't look at the site for four days. [00:17:15] Speaker B: And so I thought, okay, he. He's not interested. [00:17:17] Speaker A: Yeah, that was some alpha male stuff right there, Steve. [00:17:21] Speaker C: No, you made her a w. You. [00:17:23] Speaker E: Made her a marinade. [00:17:23] Speaker A: Hold on. Give me a fist bump. [00:17:25] Speaker C: Give me a fistbo. The moment I read that, when I finally got back on that site, you have never seen my hand speed faster than grabbing my phone and dialing that phone. I have never dialed a phone quicker in my life. [00:17:43] Speaker E: I hope it's not too late. [00:17:44] Speaker B: I have. He was like, I am so sorry. I haven't been on there. I didn't see your message. Like, please don't think I'm blowing you off. I would love to hang out. Can I call you? And he was like, can I call you? Like, I would love to chat with you. And so. And then it just kind of blossomed from there. But I wasn't ready to be tied down. [00:18:07] Speaker C: So I first words out of her mouth when I call her, okay, I'm not looking for a boyfriend, not looking for a buddy. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Yes, I want a play partner. I said, I'm looking for a play partner. And I said, and you need to understand that I play with other guys safely. You know, everyone's tested. And I said, you have to go and get tested before we do anything. And I said, and we need to be completely honest with each other if we're going to do this. I went through the whole rundown, and he was so good about it. He's like, okay, yeah, I'll go get tested tomorrow. And he even got TTS tested. And he's not a creator, so he. [00:18:47] Speaker A: Didn'T get the cheap test. He got the expensive $300 test. [00:18:51] Speaker B: He got the $300. [00:18:54] Speaker C: Around. [00:18:55] Speaker B: He's laug around. So I was like, okay. And then he. When he got his results back, he sends them to me. And I was like, oh, okay, he's serious. And I kept telling him, but I don't want a boyfriend. And I was like. So I said, you can't fall in love with me. [00:19:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:13] Speaker B: I was like, there's no. Like, this is not going to be anything more than just a buddy. [00:19:18] Speaker D: Oh. [00:19:19] Speaker C: And. But we hadn't done anything yet. And she didn't know how old I was yet. [00:19:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:19:24] Speaker C: I didn't know how old I was. [00:19:27] Speaker A: Okay, for those of you guys that are listening to this, Steve looks way younger than he really is and has. [00:19:35] Speaker E: A much younger vibe, too. [00:19:38] Speaker C: Come on, Charlie, you can say it. I'm highly immature. [00:19:44] Speaker B: But he is 60. [00:19:45] Speaker C: I'm 60 years old. [00:19:47] Speaker B: He is 60. I am 43. So we are an age gap couple, but he does not look his age at all. [00:19:54] Speaker E: But we come out like his age either. [00:19:58] Speaker B: He doesn't act his age. But we started off as play partners. And what's funny is, doc, I remember when I went to Vegas in June and you helped me put together a gang bang. Do you remember that? [00:20:12] Speaker A: I remember that. [00:20:13] Speaker B: And you had told me about Charlie. You were saying, oh, I'm kind of seeing this girl. This is her. This is her Twitter. And I was like, oh, oh, I'm kind of talking to this guy. Oh, but he's not in the. You know, he doesn't do content. We're just play partners. And I had said, oh, we're just play partners. And I had sent him pictures after that gang bang, like, just kind of seeing how he would take him, like. [00:20:38] Speaker C: Oh, that was test number one. [00:20:40] Speaker B: I said, look at it. I said, I just got fucked by five guys and my pussy is so swollen and I've got a blood blister on my lip from sucking cough while I was getting fucked. I'm sending him this. And he goes, that's so hot. I'm so glad you had so much fun. I love that for you. [00:21:02] Speaker C: In the back of my mind, I was like, God, I wish I was there watching that. [00:21:06] Speaker E: Yes, right? [00:21:07] Speaker C: I wish I was joining in. [00:21:08] Speaker A: Ah, that looks so. [00:21:09] Speaker E: FOMO's the worst one. FOMO is the worst one. [00:21:12] Speaker C: Yeah, it really is. [00:21:13] Speaker A: It really is. [00:21:15] Speaker B: It was hard. [00:21:16] Speaker C: And that was. That was the first test? [00:21:18] Speaker B: Yes, yes, that was the first test. [00:21:22] Speaker C: She wanted to see how I responded if she sent me pictures of her doing content. [00:21:26] Speaker B: And then I decided I want to see how he does in action, in person when I'm fucking another guy. So at our lifestyle club, he would always, because he has anxiety, he's not as social as I am, and so he'd always get a private room. And so I go to the lifestyle club with another guy because we were just play partners. And I said, hey, I'm going with this other guy. And we go in his room and I said, hey, Steve, I really want to fuck this other guy. Can I use your bed? [00:21:54] Speaker C: And I'm in there already sitting on the edge of the bed, talking to. Talking to a couple that. That was interested in single guys. So they were kind of picking my brain as to, you know, what should we look for in single guys? What are the red flags? What are the boundaries? [00:22:09] Speaker B: He's doing, like, vanilla talk, fully dressed. [00:22:12] Speaker C: It's not vanilla talk, but I'm sitting there talking to him about, this is what you look for. This is a red flag. And she walks in with the other guy naked, says, hands me her drink, said, can you hang on to this? [00:22:25] Speaker B: I said, hold my drink. [00:22:27] Speaker C: I'm taking bed behind me and starts. So I'm talking to this couple while the bed's doing this. [00:22:33] Speaker B: Oh. [00:22:34] Speaker C: And I'm trying to keep her drink from spilling. And I'm just talking to him, having. [00:22:38] Speaker B: A nice conversation while I'm the other guy. [00:22:41] Speaker C: They're looking past me like, like, what's going on? [00:22:45] Speaker D: Behind. [00:22:45] Speaker C: Is it okay? I'm like, yes, I guess. Yeah, absolutely. [00:22:50] Speaker A: A couple. The couple is like, we are getting very, very distracted. Yeah. [00:22:54] Speaker C: Yeah. And it was their first. It was their first time at a. [00:22:58] Speaker B: Lifestyle, but we're still friends with them, actually. Yes. [00:23:02] Speaker E: That was fucking hilarious. [00:23:03] Speaker B: But that was. It showed. He, like, you know, didn't seem jealous at all. [00:23:09] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:23:09] Speaker B: And he handled it very well. So I was like, all right, this guy's the real deal. Like, he's totally fine. [00:23:15] Speaker C: She did invite me to join. [00:23:16] Speaker A: I did. [00:23:17] Speaker B: I. I did invite him to join, but then after that, I stopped talking to the other guy, and I just started playing with him. [00:23:25] Speaker E: Okay. [00:23:26] Speaker B: And it kind of evolved from there, where I just realized, okay, you know, I never thought I would want to be in a relationship. [00:23:34] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:23:35] Speaker B: Because I didn't want to be. I didn't want someone to change me. He's not trying to change me. He's trying to add to the experience. And he's. He loves me for who I am. [00:23:46] Speaker A: And. [00:23:46] Speaker C: And that's just it. If you fall in love with. With a person for. For that person, why would you then want to go in and change them? You know, it just. That just doesn't make sense to me now. There have been times where we have both had to adapt, and we'll get into that. [00:24:03] Speaker B: We'll get into that. But that is how we met. [00:24:06] Speaker A: Oh. [00:24:06] Speaker C: And. And our first date actually was. Was supposed to be just me and another couple. Because I had asked her the week that I got her phone number, I said, hey, you want to go out? I'd love to take you out to dinner Friday night. And she said, well, I. I have other commitments. I said, okay. So a couple that I regularly played with said, hey, Steve, come on over. We'll have cocktails and have some fun. All right. So she calls me on Friday morning. Friday morning and says, hey, my commitments are no longer. I'm free tonight. And I'm like, oh. And I really wanted to be with her. So that couple was from the same lifestyle club, and they had met Amy. And so I just called them up and said, do you mind if I bring a guest? And they're like, no, go for it. [00:24:54] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. [00:24:55] Speaker C: So she comes along, and we have drinks out on their patio, and we're. And she starts getting a little handsy, and we. And so I wanted to. [00:25:05] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah. [00:25:08] Speaker C: Right. And so the wife looks at us and says, why don't we continue this in the bedroom? And so we're walking back to the bedroom, and I Just look at Amy. And I go, best first date ever. And the wife turns and looks at me and goes, you gotta be kidding me. This is your first date with her. [00:25:24] Speaker B: And I said, it's not a young. [00:25:26] Speaker A: And she's like, it's not a date. [00:25:27] Speaker C: We're not. We're not boyfriend, girlfriend. We're just play partners. [00:25:29] Speaker B: We're just play partners. But that was our first time we hung out. And he was really. [00:25:35] Speaker C: I was trying hard. [00:25:36] Speaker B: He was showing me that he could lick my pussy good. He was going to fuck me good because he was going to show me, like, I might be at that time, 58. Yeah, I might be 58, but I'm going to fuck you like a 45 year old. I show you. [00:25:51] Speaker A: I love that. [00:25:52] Speaker E: Yes. [00:25:52] Speaker B: I love that. [00:25:53] Speaker E: Yes. [00:25:55] Speaker C: I didn't break a hip or anything, so I came out. [00:25:58] Speaker A: Okay, that's a good start. [00:26:01] Speaker B: I want to hear. So now, how did you meet Charlie? [00:26:05] Speaker A: So I will let the lovely Charlie. [00:26:07] Speaker E: Okay. [00:26:09] Speaker A: So I paid her money. [00:26:14] Speaker E: In the shoot houses that I had been at when I started in February. Everybody kept talking about Doc Chocolate's room. I got to get in Doc Chocolate's room. Who the fuck is this Doc Chocolate guy? So I finally got in his room in April, and then I saw him on Twitter and there was a. He posted a thirst trap or something, and I flirted with him on it, and then he flirted back. We started talking and he was like, hey, you gotta do my podcast. And I was like, hey, okay. So I did his podcast. [00:26:47] Speaker A: And back then what I would do is the ladies that I wanted to fuck, I would get them on my podcast. [00:26:55] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a nice move, right? [00:26:59] Speaker E: Nice pickup game he's got. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Hopefully I can chart them into panties. Coming down. [00:27:07] Speaker E: So I did the podcast and then we had really good chemistry. And he's like, hey, we should do a zoom date. And I was like, oh, okay, people still do that. [00:27:16] Speaker B: All right, let's do that. [00:27:17] Speaker E: So we did that and it was like four hours later. We had. That was like our first, you know, zoom date. And we were like, okay, we gotta do this again. So we did a couple more times and we kept talking. And then I was. Oh, I was dealing with my dad, so I couldn't. We were trying to make it to where I could come out here and do some collabing and stuff. [00:27:41] Speaker A: Yeah, back then she was in Florida. [00:27:42] Speaker E: Yeah, I was in Florida. And I was in an Airbnb. So I was in a transitional period. I didn't know where I was going to be. And then life stuff happens. And he's like, just come out here for a couple weeks. You know, just. We'll. You know, you can stay a couple weeks a month. We'll just do collabing and I'll show you. Because I was struggling with my work with the marketing part of it, and he's like, I'll show you what to do, and, you know, where you're missing the points or whatever. So I came and. Well, the first. [00:28:15] Speaker A: She definitely came. [00:28:18] Speaker E: So I actually missed my flight that he paid for. Yes. And this is during a time when I was insanely stressed out. So I was making a lot of mistakes. Like, a lot of mistakes. And anybody with ADD understands, like, if the stress goes up your mistake, you just make a mistake. So I freaking missed the plane. I, like, got there two hours early, but apparently in Orlando, you got to do three, so I. I missed that plane. And I call him, and he. They immediately did not ask me what happened. He was like, oh, okay. So what you got to do when you want to get on the plane on time is blah, blah, blah. I'm like, oh, this. I was like, I don't think this is gonna. I don't think, like, I'm probably gonna have to come right back. I was like, this is not gonna work. So anyway, next. The next day, I think I made the flight. Everything worked, got there. A week and a half goes by. We still hadn't shot any content. We just been fucking the whole time. [00:29:24] Speaker C: Oh, nice. [00:29:25] Speaker E: I love it. And then he's like, we probably should film some stuff. And then, you know, we started filming and. And we. We were hanging out and everything was very easy. And he's like, oh. And before I got there, though, we had exchanged lists. We had talked about a possibility, but I was like, you, Amy? I had just gotten out of living with an ex boyfriend that I had separated from, like, back in February. So it was like I didn't want a relationship. I was like, I'm not getting in a relationship. I was like, I'm not falling for you. Don't even fucking. I was like, I'm not falling for you, motherfucker. And I got there, and we all. Both of our lists, we both had very extensive lists, and we only had maybe one or two things that each other didn't quite tick off, and those were not deal breakers. [00:30:20] Speaker A: Hey there, cucks. Stags and ladies, do you want to meet up with me Da Chocolate and have a sexy experience of your life for your hot wife? Now, if you answered yes, then you must check out Doc Chocolate's hot wife training days@hotwifetrainingday.com now if you've ever seen one of my sexy videos that I've recorded with hot wives, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. What's going to happen is your wife is going to get wine and dined by me. There's going to be heavy sexy flirting. There's going to be an aromatherapeutic experience with me in a very low lit sensual environment with soft music playing in the background while your hot wife gets a world famous dark chocolate, skin to skin body glide with coconut oil and more. And this is going to be the experience of a lifetime for you wives out there as you go through your journey of finding your true sluttiness with Doc Chocolate. Want to find out more details and get your reservation with me? Then go now to hotwifetrainingday.com to get started. Now back to the episode. [00:31:38] Speaker E: And so it was like, oh, okay, interesting. And then when I was there, he was like, started slowly making a good case for why we should possibly date. He's such a good salesman. He was just like, he just kept peppering with little, fast little things and then he would, and then once he was done, he just stuck. He was just stopped. He just stopped and let me think about it. And I was like, that was really good sales tactic. And then we, So I was like, you have a point. And the only thing I didn't want was I didn't, I don't, I'm not, I didn't want a long term or a long distance relationship. I was like, I am a touch person. If I'm going to make that sacrifice, it's not going to be for somebody that I'm not around all the time. I was like, so if I'm going to do, if we're going to do this. And it seemed like we had a very good connection. And it, you know, by the time you get to this age, you, you can tell if you're going to vibe or not for any length of time, you know. And so I was like, the, the last holdout was whether I was going to want to live here or not. And he's like, what's it gonna, you know, one year, what's gonna hurt? You don't even, you know, you don't have a place there. What? [00:32:47] Speaker A: You know, yeah, yeah, come over here. [00:32:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:32:50] Speaker E: And I was like, he's like, it's mostly warm. Liar. [00:32:54] Speaker A: Las Vegas. Like, yeah, it may not be as warm as South Florida, but like, oh my God. [00:33:00] Speaker E: I mean, it's a winter. [00:33:02] Speaker A: It's a mild winter. [00:33:05] Speaker E: But yeah, so that's kind of how we met. And. [00:33:08] Speaker A: Oh, tell them what happened when you finally did say, hey, yeah, I think we should dance. [00:33:15] Speaker E: Okay. So. So that weekend he had a visitor. Am I saying who it is? [00:33:24] Speaker A: I guess we can. [00:33:25] Speaker E: Yeah. All right, Venus. [00:33:28] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:29] Speaker E: So I had. He didn't tell me anything about this woman other than it's a platonic work relationship and she's. She's got a podcast and he, she helped him out in the beginning, you know, and she's coming down for a cuck party that we were all gonna go to Saturday. And so I'm not. I have no. I'm like, okay, no big deal. I look at her stuff and I think she had a, like a animated person for her thing. And I'm like, I didn't even like actually find her. I didn't look deep enough or anything. I just was like looking up the person that was coming and I didn't think about it. And so right before you left to go pick her up from the airport, I'm like, I. I guess you have a good point. You know, we had been talking all morning about me moving and whatever. I was like, okay, I guess we're. I guess we'll date, you know. Okay. So five minutes before he goes and picks this person up, we start dating. [00:34:27] Speaker C: It was a weird. [00:34:27] Speaker A: It was a weird situation because it's like I was literally going to go pick up this girl, this woman that I, you know, going had a years. [00:34:39] Speaker E: Long, flirtatious, high chemistry situation where they had never before. And she chose this weekend to decide that she's gonna actually him. [00:34:50] Speaker A: And it was like, hey, hey, hey. Up until that point, up until that point, she gets on shooting me down. And this is that when we met a person. So I was just like, okay, just a platonic thing. And then when, when I brought her back to my place, Charlie was like, oh, she wants to. [00:35:08] Speaker D: Oh, she wants. [00:35:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:11] Speaker E: I was like, how are you telling me this is a platonic relationship? She wants to you so bad. [00:35:16] Speaker A: And then we went to the party and then the first thing he did. [00:35:19] Speaker E: Was grab, said, hey, let's go jumped on me. [00:35:22] Speaker A: And I was like, oh, I guess she does want. [00:35:25] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm just like, okay. So, so. And he was like, couldn't go back fast enough. I was like, what the fuck is going on? So. But one of the bulls. [00:35:36] Speaker A: I walked slowly. I walked very masculine. [00:35:39] Speaker E: Like your heels. Like little but then one of the bulls talked me into playing, and we ended up fucking in the same room that they were fucking in. And it was. It was. It was a craziest party. But, yeah, it was fun. But, yeah, that was interesting. Just, nobody knew we were dating. And then they did. They had that. And at the end of the night, I was like. Grabbed him. I was like, we gotta fuck. And so we had reclamation sex for, like, the first night we had. We were a couple. And he. It was like the. I think your first, like, real time of doing that where you got to, like, reclaim. And at the end of the night of a party and stuff, and it was like, super hot, and it was like, fuck, yeah. This is. This can be fun. [00:36:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:26] Speaker E: Like, yeah. So that was. That was it. [00:36:27] Speaker A: That's how we met. [00:36:28] Speaker D: And then. [00:36:29] Speaker E: So I'm here. And then how many weeks or months happened before we got together with them? [00:36:35] Speaker A: So what happened? Oh, go ahead. [00:36:39] Speaker B: We. I saw you guys at the next POD Bash, which was in September, but Steve was not with me. [00:36:45] Speaker E: Yeah, that's right. [00:36:46] Speaker A: I went to that. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Yes. Oh, no, we. We saw you Labor Day. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So before Labor Day, I. I went on only Fans, and Charlie was with me. And then you and Steve were doing a live. Live stream, and you guys were like, each other. And so you popped on and then you said something about, hey, me and my boyfriend are. And then I was like, oh, hey. Okay. And so Charlie was up there and we were watching. And then, you know, we were kind of like typing, saying, hey and this and that. And like, I could see the interaction between the two of you. Steve and Amy. [00:37:26] Speaker D: Yes. [00:37:27] Speaker A: And it was so beautiful. And I automatically. Because I'm an energy guy, right? So I already know I like Amy, but, like, Steve, you know, I could just like, see him talk and smile and see how he was with you, Amy. And it literally only took me about maybe 60, 90 seconds. And I was like, I fucking like this motherfucker. [00:37:47] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:37:48] Speaker E: Like, yes, yes and no. [00:37:50] Speaker A: Charlie. And then Charlie was like, yeah, I like him a lot. [00:37:56] Speaker E: We hadn't talked. We had. You guys were our first couple that we had even, like, considered playing with. And he's like, you consider. And I'm like, yeah, he. He seems awesome and she's cool as fuck. So when that. And so you guys were actually our first swap. But, like, you. [00:38:14] Speaker B: You. [00:38:14] Speaker E: You put the bar high because. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Right. [00:38:18] Speaker E: Like, I'm bringing this, you know, and it's like, he. [00:38:21] Speaker B: He. [00:38:21] Speaker E: He's killing the lady next to me. And usually the Guy is struggling or. Or like, you know, getting his head and stuff, and Steve just pounding the shit out of my pussy. Well, I'm like, oh, my God, I fucking love this couple. They're so fun. [00:38:35] Speaker B: Do you know that we also talk about that because remember Charlie, you. He was fucking the shit out of you, and you make the best noises. And poor Doc. I'm so used to Doc. I'm writing him. And I stopped. Do you remember that? To watch. [00:38:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:52] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:38:53] Speaker C: I'm like. [00:38:53] Speaker A: I'm like, hey. [00:38:57] Speaker B: You're like, hi, right here. And I was like, oh, not her. [00:39:00] Speaker C: Not her. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Me. [00:39:02] Speaker B: It was so hot, though, watching Steve the shit out of you turn milk after planes. [00:39:10] Speaker E: It was so hot. It was so fun. It was just. It was the. Yes. To be in that room with you guys. And it was fun and hot. And you and I have chemistry and him and. And you guys get along and everything is. Everybody's got chemistry. [00:39:24] Speaker C: And. [00:39:24] Speaker A: And what's funny about it is because, like, obviously, the three of us back then were content creators. [00:39:30] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:39:31] Speaker A: You know, so myself, Charlie, Amy, and so, you know, Steve, I was kind of like, okay, well, you know, we'll kind of dial it down just a little bit. You know, he's cool, right? This dude came in like. He was like, jason, love is just like. And destroying left and right. I was like, oh, you guys are. [00:39:52] Speaker C: Talking me up way too much. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Yes. [00:39:56] Speaker E: She's probably like, yeah, he's close to 16. You're like, oh, this guy is not gonna be. Yeah. [00:40:01] Speaker C: Yeah. What was interesting for me, I. I've had the pleasure of meeting a lot of Amy's friends. Like. Like. Like Doc and, like, Charlie. And Amy is an extremely good judge of character. She always. And she talked about you, Doc, from, like, the first couple days that we got together. I have this friend down in Vegas. [00:40:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:22] Speaker C: And every single person that she has said, oh, this is an amazing human being. You're gonna really enjoy hanging out with him. It's been absolutely right. And I think one of the funnest things about that night is just what you said earlier was this was both sexy and fun because it was just fun hanging out with you guys. The. And that's what makes an interaction or. Or a zesty session like that so much fun is when everybody is just. There's no drama. Everybody's just having it's a good time. [00:40:59] Speaker B: Everything flows well. It's just everyone's able to each other. [00:41:04] Speaker E: And it's no negative feelings. [00:41:08] Speaker C: I mean, Doc, you broke your finger. And we still have. [00:41:12] Speaker A: Okay, thank you for bringing that up. Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Steve. We should probably discuss that. Right? [00:41:19] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Okay. [00:41:22] Speaker C: I thought you were just showing us how much of a stud you are. [00:41:27] Speaker E: It shows what a professional you actually are and how much you are not paying attention. [00:41:34] Speaker A: So, okay, so what happened was, what hotel were you guys at? [00:41:39] Speaker B: Mgm. [00:41:40] Speaker A: MGM Grand. Okay, so we're at the MGM grand, and the doors to the bathroom are two doors that slide open and together in unison. [00:41:51] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:41:52] Speaker A: So, yes, they're connected. Other door slides. [00:41:55] Speaker E: Yes. And they're heavy. [00:41:56] Speaker A: Yeah, they're heavy. You know. Hey, that is real oak. It's definitely not, like, from ikea. [00:42:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:03] Speaker A: Like, so, like, I'm sliding the door, and I'm just kind of looking at the door handle that I'm sliding. Right. But I'm not looking at the other door. I'm not paying attention to that door. Right. [00:42:14] Speaker E: There might have been liquor involved. [00:42:16] Speaker A: There might have been liquor involved, Right? [00:42:18] Speaker C: No, it wasn't that. The blood was rushing someplace else. So it was because he was seeing two beautiful women naked right there. [00:42:26] Speaker A: So I like that better. Right? Yeah, we'll go with that one. We'll go with that. [00:42:30] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:42:30] Speaker A: And so, like, the. I'm. I'm thinking that this is, like, a regular pocket door, whatever you call it, and it's not. And so, like, I think my middle finger was in the edge of the door. And so, like, once I get to the mid section of the doorway, the other door just slams shut on my finger. And I'm like, you know, and I see lights, right? Oh, yeah. I. I see the same lights that I saw when, like, Amy, like, slapped the. Out of my ear. That's another story. And so. And so, like, I'm looking at my finger and it's, like, throbbing. And I was like, I think I broke my finger. Because that, like, immediately swelled up, Right. I think. Steve, I think you. You're the first one who kind of. [00:43:25] Speaker C: You know, what I thought at first is you were standing there up against the door, and you're just. Your face was just, like, intensely concentrating. And I'm like, oh, wow, this guy's serious about. He's getting into, like, this. This meditative state before he just. The. Out of these girls. And I'm like, that's wild. And he's just, like, hustling under your breath. And I'm like, that doesn't sound like meditation. And you're like. [00:43:51] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think I told you what happened. [00:43:52] Speaker E: And then you're like, look at your finger. [00:43:55] Speaker B: And it's like, You're. I was like, oh, but you're a stud because you take. Okay. You take the water bottle wrapper and. [00:44:07] Speaker C: Okay, so for the folks watching, this is really a porno Boy Scout trick right here. He took the label off the water bottle and. And wrapped it up like a splint on his finger. And then. And then he went to. [00:44:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I took my middle finger and I put it on my ring finger and I took that water bottle wrapper and I just wrapped that together. And I may have broken a pencil or some like that. Yeah, actual splits. [00:44:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:38] Speaker C: And I swear to God, I've been looking at, like, social media, looking at the, like, these Eagle Scouts, and I've been looking for, like, a triple X Eagle Scout badge for when Doc. You know, doing it. A doc figure split before he. [00:44:52] Speaker B: You know, I mean, I was impressed because you did. You're like, okay, we're like, we don't have to do this. And you're like, no, I could do this. [00:45:01] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:45:02] Speaker A: So it's all. And I think when we're. Because I think it was me and you two ladies. [00:45:09] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:45:09] Speaker A: Initially. [00:45:10] Speaker E: Yeah. I think. Were we doing the threesome at that. [00:45:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:14] Speaker A: So, like, so. So, like, I fucking. I'm putting in work, and then, like, halfway through, you know, my dick starts getting, like, intermittent, like, hardness. [00:45:22] Speaker C: Right. [00:45:22] Speaker A: And then both two ladies are like. [00:45:24] Speaker E: We had forgotten what happened at this point because we were all into our professional work. [00:45:31] Speaker A: Like, they're like, what's going on, Doc? What's going on? What's going on? Such a dick. And I was like, yeah, the shock. [00:45:39] Speaker C: Is wearing off and the pain is hitting. Oh, it was searing pain. [00:45:44] Speaker A: It was searing pain. [00:45:45] Speaker B: Oh, shit. [00:45:46] Speaker E: We forgot. [00:45:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I felt so bad. [00:45:51] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. But we got through it. We got a really good multiple, actually. So you broke your finger during the threesome, and then we went on to still have a foursome. [00:46:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:03] Speaker A: Yes, yes, I broke it right before the threesome, and then we went on for a foursome and then, like, I was so proud of Steve because he was putting a work. [00:46:13] Speaker C: And then we went to the doctor. We went and got pizza afterwards. [00:46:20] Speaker A: Yeah, we did. [00:46:21] Speaker C: We did. [00:46:21] Speaker A: We went out and got the pizza and whatnot. And, like, I only had to split on my finger for, like, the next two and a half months. [00:46:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:29] Speaker E: Finally healed. Oh, my God. [00:46:33] Speaker B: As you told people that my. [00:46:35] Speaker E: Broke your finger. [00:46:38] Speaker A: I did. I did. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. [00:46:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:43] Speaker A: Because, like, I think it was at the pod bash. [00:46:45] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:46:48] Speaker A: I had the split on my figure. And they're like, what happened? I was like, yeah, I was fingering Amy really, really hard. And so. [00:46:57] Speaker B: Snapped his finger. And people are like, oh, my God. I was like, no, he's not serious. Joking. [00:47:06] Speaker E: Oh, my God, No. So that. Yeah, that was like the first. Our first swap. And that set the bar really high. So it's been like, there. You guys are our favorite fucking couple. And it's always fun. There's no. And I. I also. We. We did the. The jealous. We recorded the jealousy podcast yesterday. And I use you, Amy, as, like, a litmus because I'm like, in all. In. In. In all actuality, if I was going to be jealous of any of his people that he was friends with or partners with or whatever, it would be you. Because you. Before I knew you were with Steve, you were single. He talked very highly of you. You're this big party ho like him. You know, you guys, why. Why are you guys not, you know, partying? That would. I feel like that might have been a meltdown with hoes partying and all the time, but we balance them out, Steve. We like children out. [00:48:09] Speaker C: It's the yin and the yang. [00:48:10] Speaker E: Yes. Yes, it really does. But, like, yes, I use that as my litmus because I'm like, I should be jealous of you, but I have, no, never been jealous of you because you've been above board. And you. I don't know, I can't even put it to words how you've been or what other women who I have angst with because they haven't done it properly. I don't even know how to put that into words, but it's been fucking awesome. And I. Yeah, and I love that you've been very cool because you made this very easy. [00:48:39] Speaker B: Well, and I. And I love you, Charlie. Like, the moment I met you, I remember I told Doc, I was like, I love her. Like, I really, really like her. And I really hope that this stays, because I was like, of course I love you. And I told Doc, you know, he's my friend for life. I was like, but fuck, I really like her, too. So, like. [00:49:01] Speaker E: You'Re my friend for life. Even if. Even if I know Doc, we're okay. [00:49:06] Speaker D: So good. [00:49:07] Speaker B: But I, you know, I think it's coming from being a unicorn, just realizing that you always need to be respectful to the woman and, you know, and to the relationship. Even though Doc is a very good friend of mine, you know, I'm always going to check in with you. I'm always going to see how you Are because I never want to get in the way or cause any issues. Because the whole part about doing this is to have fun and no drama and make sure everyone's having a good time. And if I'm being disrespectful, then that's going to put you on edge and then it's not going to be fun. [00:49:47] Speaker E: Yes, yes, yes. And I don't think people in general understand that if you start that interaction with someone else or with another couple and you start off on the legs of not being respectful, you're already creating angst for yourself with that other person. That's going to be hard to. That's like an already negative start. So it's like just. Just start off being respectful. Check, you know, read the room, make sure everybody seems cool and whatever. [00:50:19] Speaker C: But yeah, I kind of liken it almost to an allergy. If you meet a couple and you sense that there's drama or some sort of disrespect or anything, it's like, oh, I'm allergic to that couple. I gotta go. [00:50:32] Speaker E: Right? Yeah. [00:50:33] Speaker C: And the parties that we went to, the people that we vibed with, much like the way we vibed with you guys, is those people just came up and you could tell it was just a calmness of fun attitude. There was now, oh my God, you know, type of thing going on. And. [00:50:51] Speaker B: But you also can see when couples are both in it together. [00:50:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:55] Speaker B: You know, that they're both on the same page. It's like, I feel like I can almost smell that out. You know, when one of them is really wanting and the other person's not there, then I'm. I feel like I can sense that. And it's like, oh, no, we're not going to play with them because. [00:51:14] Speaker C: Hey, I'd love to hear your. Your both of your opinions on that. I think that sense comes into play and gets tuned up to a. To a spider spidey sense, almost. If you start as a single in the lifestyle and then go into being a couple. Because I was the same way. I would listen to my gut. And if I met with a couple as a single guy in the lifestyle and I got this little feeling like, oh, he really wants this and she doesn't, or, oh, her body language is saying that she wants this and this guy doesn't. Isn't up for it. [00:51:50] Speaker B: Right. [00:51:51] Speaker C: That was like, okay, listen to the gut. It's like, oh, gosh, gotta go. [00:51:54] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah. [00:51:55] Speaker C: Nice to meet you. Really, really enjoyed talking to you. [00:51:58] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:51:59] Speaker C: And I think that coming from A single person in the lifestyle, you get more in tune to that, to where you sense if there's. If there's not an equal, hey, we're both in this. We're both wanting to have fun. You know, we're both. This going to be hot for both. [00:52:16] Speaker B: We're doing this just for added fun. It's not because we're doing this for any selfish reasons or just because we're not. We're trying to fix something that we. You know, it never works. Yeah. And there are. And I think it's important to be okay. I mean, Charlie, you know, I'm like, the crazy, wild one. But just recently, when we went to temptations for his 60th birthday, big 60th birthday, going to Temptations, spending all this money to go there to have awesome lifestyle experiences, and I just was not in the right headspace. [00:52:56] Speaker E: Oh, God. [00:52:57] Speaker B: I was. And it was me. [00:52:59] Speaker E: I hate that. [00:53:00] Speaker B: And I was like, I was feeling so guilty, but I had to be honest with him, you know, and. Because I knew if I wasn't. And we tried to do something, it was not gonna be good. And so I told him. I was like, I'm sorry. I'm just not feeling this. And I know we just spent all this money to come out to Cancun for your big 60th birthday, but I am not in the right headset space. And he was so good about it. He's like, that's fine. We'll just have fun, you and I. It's not a big deal. And he handled it so good, and it made me feel safe. [00:53:31] Speaker E: Right. [00:53:32] Speaker B: To just how he reassured me, because I was like, are you mad? Like, I'm so. Like, I had the guilt of, like, I'm so sorry. And he was like, why are you apologizing? He's like, it's fine. [00:53:43] Speaker D: It's. [00:53:43] Speaker B: It's totally good. But I did. I felt guilty because I'm like, you know, I'm usually the one that's. Let's go for this. Yeah, let's do this. You know, and then I'm telling him, no. [00:53:55] Speaker E: Yes. Yeah. [00:53:56] Speaker C: But that goes back to. It's with us. This is just added fun. [00:54:02] Speaker E: Yes. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Yes. [00:54:02] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:54:03] Speaker C: You're still with your person. You're still with the person that you bonded with and that you. That you love unconditionally. The rest of it is just icing on the cake, you know, it's just a little extra fun. Yeah. And we have a whole lot of fun, just the two of us, too. [00:54:20] Speaker E: So that's the thing. Yeah. It's like if we go to a club, we know we're gonna have fun together. So it's like we're gonna have fun no matter what. Now if we meet a couple or a group of people that want to fuck, too awesome. But otherwise we are gonna have fun. And that's. Yeah, that's the awesome thing about going with a partner that you have fun with. [00:54:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:40] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:54:41] Speaker C: And it is a big change. Big change from being a single in the lifestyle. [00:54:45] Speaker B: More so for me, I think. [00:54:48] Speaker E: Okay, so how. Okay, so you're. What time are we at? I have the. [00:54:54] Speaker A: So we're actually going to wrap this first. [00:54:57] Speaker E: We're going to write this down because this is going to be part of the next one because we've got so much stuff to talk about. This is going to be awesome. And the reason we want to have you guys back on. And this is more for the listeners, because you guys know this, but the tools that you need to. When you meet somebody in the lifestyle versus being married for years and years and already having the teamwork and the trust and stuff is a very different set of skills and a lot more tools needed. And so Amy and Steve are going to be on periodically, and we're going to roundtable different discussions so that you guys can learn about different things that we've all done, because we've all had to. Both of both couples have had to try, you know, try things and. And try. Try things multiple times till stuff worked. And so we're gonna talk about all that stuff and so everybody can have the tools. [00:55:50] Speaker A: We like tools. [00:55:54] Speaker C: She's got a couple of them on the. She's got a couple of them on the table right now. [00:55:59] Speaker A: I love it. Oh, those type of tools. So let's wrap this up. [00:56:06] Speaker C: Up. [00:56:07] Speaker A: You know, we love you guys. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Yes. [00:56:09] Speaker C: And love you, too. [00:56:10] Speaker A: Thank you. And it's perfect. You know, we're looking forward to spending more time with you guys because I think you guys are coming to Vegas next month, I think possibly. [00:56:21] Speaker B: No, we're. We're not coming to Vegas until Avian's. [00:56:26] Speaker E: Yeah. Okay. [00:56:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:56:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:30] Speaker C: But if you guys want to. [00:56:31] Speaker E: But we. We're gonna try and meet you halfway at least. So. [00:56:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Before then. Yeah, we'll talk about the podcast. Yeah. But go ahead, guys. Amy, Steve, tell everybody how they can find you and see your spicy content and all that other good stuff. [00:56:47] Speaker B: So you can find mine on my website, see unicorn girl.com and you can. [00:56:55] Speaker C: The fastest way to find mine is probably just on my Twitter. I do have a webpage, but I suck at keeping it up. So My Twitter is Idaho Viking 888 and that'll get you information on the spicy sites. Everything else, thanks. [00:57:15] Speaker A: Okay. And you are funcharli.com all right. So I will go ahead and wrap it up. So I am at Doc chocolatefans.com fun Charlie is at funcharlie.com Amy is at CA unicorngirl.com and Mr. Steve the fucking Viking is at X.com Idaho Viking 888 Boom. [00:57:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. All right. [00:57:44] Speaker A: So until next time, boys and Queens laces. Y' all stay sexy and blessed and all that other good stuff and we will see you on the next episode. Bye bye. [00:57:58] Speaker D: Thank you for listening to everybody's favorite black man candy, Doc Chocolate of the Bulls and Queens podcast. 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