Episode 148

October 21, 2025

01:00:29

148 | The Good, Bad & Complicated: Our THROUPLE Experience!!

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Doc Chocolate BBC Fun Charlie
148 | The Good, Bad & Complicated: Our THROUPLE Experience!!
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148 | The Good, Bad & Complicated: Our THROUPLE Experience!!

Oct 21 2025 | 01:00:29

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  • ·✨ On this episode, Doc Chocolate and Fun Charlie talk about our separate experiences we had of being in a THROUPLE relationship and dynamic. We touch on what we learned and what you should know if you are thinking of adding a third to your current relationship.
  • ·✨ SPONSORED BY DOC CHOCOLATE’S VIP ONLYFANS PAGE ✨ | Doc’s OnlyFans account which has WEEKLY full length videos of Doc’s fun times with hotwives of cuckolds, MILFs, vixens and QOS…. Join the VIP now at DocChocolateFans.com
  • ·Fun Charlie (co-host): Website · X · Instagram
  • ·Lora Cross (the sexy lady model in the podcast episode cover / she is NOT part of a throuple lol): Website 
  • ·Mentioned on this show: Boston Bob · Michelle Rayne · Nicole / FlirtsLV

 

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[00:00:02] Speaker A: You are now listening to the Bulls and Queens podcast, where we have sexy fun exploring the lifestyle and swinging exploits of black bulls, queens of spades, cuckold fantasies, open relationships, seductive interracial enc and other kinky shenanigans that are sure to get you off in a very good way. So get ready, ladies, and make sure you take notes, gentlemen, because here is your host, that super sexy, bald black man Candy Dark Chocolate. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Foreign. [00:01:08] Speaker C: Welcome to episode 148 of the Bulls and Queens podcast. I am your host, Doc Chocolate, and I have my lovely lady co host, Fun Charlie. And we're back at you with a fun topic that we're going to talk today about. Would you like to know what topic we're going to talk about, Charlie? [00:01:34] Speaker B: I would love to. [00:01:35] Speaker C: Ooh, say that again. [00:01:36] Speaker B: I would love to. [00:01:37] Speaker C: All right. Yeah, we are going to talk about the good, the bad, and the complicated arthrople experience. Everybody likes talking about throuples, don't they? [00:01:53] Speaker B: Yes, everybody wants one, but until they don't. [00:01:57] Speaker C: Until they don't. Exactly. And so for those of you guys, ladies, who don't know what a thruffle is, it's basically a couple that is three. So that's where the throuple comes from. So it's basically three people that are in a relationship dynamic. And so the funny thing is, Charlie and I were both in a throuple ship, situation, experience, whatever you want to call it. And the crazier thing, this is some Jerry Seinfeld shit, is we were rip to you, Jerry. Yeah, but we were in the same throuple relationship with the same couple at different times. So we'll talk about that here. This is going to get crazy. [00:02:46] Speaker B: It is going to get crazy. [00:02:47] Speaker C: So we're talking about the good, the bad, and the complicated that we went through. But before we get started, I want you guys ladies to make sure you check out my fun stuff@.chocolatefans.com and on there you're going to find my only fans. You're going to find my swinger videos that I do with hot wives all across the country. And you're also going to be able to set up an appointment to get a sensual massage for your wife when you visit Las Vegas, or you can even fly me out to you. But you're going to check that out @doc chocolate fans.com and you can find. [00:03:33] Speaker B: All of my spicy fun videos and. [00:03:37] Speaker C: Me@Funcharli.Com and one fun thing, Fun Charlie, is we actually do cuckold experiences to person. [00:03:47] Speaker B: We do. [00:03:47] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. Yes. So if you are a cuck and you want a cuck experience with a trained BBC and a trained beautiful blonde. Blonde. I said that twice. A trained beautiful blonde. Dom. [00:04:03] Speaker B: Oh, nice. [00:04:04] Speaker C: Thank you. Say that three times fast, then make sure that you hit us up. So what's been going on in your week or our week this week so far before we jump into the episode, Charlie? [00:04:19] Speaker B: So we have been kind of doing collabs because we just had like fresh testing. So we've been doing collabs and planning for future shoot houses and parties and events. And we went to a pool party yesterday at Flirts. It was very nice. Super. It was like a second. It was a last minute thing. They. She wasn't done throwing pool parties, so. Nicole at Flirts. Awesome. Threw another pool party, thankfully, and it was lovely. [00:04:51] Speaker C: We love pool parties. [00:04:52] Speaker B: So nice. Yeah, sometimes I like pool parties better than the actual like live, like nighttime stuff. [00:04:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:58] Speaker B: It's so much chill. Yeah. [00:05:00] Speaker C: Yeah, I do too. And so we actually had a fun time. Obviously. We live out in Las Vegas, so as we record this, it's actually almost Halloween time. So one good thing about Las Vegas is it stays warm pretty much until about Halloween time before it dips down. But, you know, hell, it's better than living out in Iowa or Nebraska or Pennsylvania during the wintertime. Yeah. Cold. [00:05:25] Speaker B: That's way too cold. [00:05:26] Speaker C: Super cold. So. And we also had a little situation that happened at the pool party and it was yesterday and it's something that Charlie and I will talk about on a future episode. [00:05:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:40] Speaker C: So, yeah, we were able to grow from that miscommunication that we had. [00:05:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:05:46] Speaker C: So you'll be able to hear us talk about it on a future episode. [00:05:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:52] Speaker C: Yeah. And this morning, Charlie, I actually got retested at clear. [00:05:58] Speaker B: You did? [00:05:59] Speaker C: I did. I did. So for those of you guys and ladies that are listening to this and maybe you've seen our porn and our content and you're like, these guys, they're just out here fucking bareback and raw. And how come his dick hasn't fallen off yet? Like he's just fucking everything. Not using condoms and whatnot. Okay. This is the real deal, you guys. Like when we, Charlie and I are in lifestyle situations and just playing, we're always using protection. [00:06:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:32] Speaker C: We're always using condoms. We're always making sure we're gargling with our mouthwash and all that fun stuff. Yes. But when we shoot content, we're only shooting contents with other people that are on a 14 day test. [00:06:48] Speaker B: Yes. [00:06:49] Speaker C: And the 14 day test is full panel. So it clears you for gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, the big one, which is hiv. Oh, no. And hepatitis C. And then we're also doing oral swabs and anal swabs for chlamydia and gonorrhea. That sounds horrible, getting gonorrhea in your asshole, doesn't it? [00:07:12] Speaker B: It really does. [00:07:13] Speaker C: Yeah. And it makes me shudder. And then it also tests for M Gen. So anytime you see any of us in any of our videos, we just want you guys to understand that proper testing protocols, we were handled. [00:07:31] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:07:32] Speaker C: But anyways, so I got stuck, got my blood taken out. [00:07:35] Speaker B: Yep. And why do you think you did that? [00:07:37] Speaker C: Because we have the beautiful Michelle Rain. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:07:41] Speaker C: That. Well, she's not coming to town. She already is in town. [00:07:44] Speaker B: Yeah, she's here. [00:07:45] Speaker C: Yeah. And we're gonna shoot some content tomorrow. [00:07:48] Speaker B: We are? [00:07:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:49] Speaker B: We ever. I'm excited. [00:07:51] Speaker C: You know what I'm excited about, Charlie? [00:07:52] Speaker B: What? [00:07:52] Speaker C: I'm excited about you two beautiful ladies. Michelle's a beautiful brunettes. Charlie's a beautiful blonde. [00:07:59] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:08:00] Speaker C: I'm excited about seeing the blonde and the brunette, like, dominate me. You guys are gonna dominate me tomorrow on the video. [00:08:07] Speaker B: Fun. It is gonna be so fun. [00:08:08] Speaker C: Yeah. They're gonna beat the out of me. [00:08:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:08:10] Speaker C: And then they're gonna. My face and my dick. [00:08:12] Speaker B: Yes. [00:08:13] Speaker C: I'm totally excited. Yeah, I just came on myself. But you'll hear about that in a future episode as well, so. But without further ado, let's go on to the meat of our podcast show today and we will continue after these commercial messages. Pardon the interruption. If you're a cuckold gentleman, a stag, a voyeur, or maybe you're just a woman that likes to watch amateur BBC porn. If you are, I got a question to ask you. 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Hope you all enjoyed the commercial messages. Make sure you check out Fun Charlie and her fun stuff@funcharli.com make sure you join her only fans and check out the latest video that she has posted on her stuff. And then also make sure you check out my stuff@doc chocolate fans.com you can check out my only fans, my videos, my spicy that I do with lovely ladies all across the country. And then you can also set up a sensual massage with yours truly for your life. So, Charlie, we're talking about our throuple experience that we had at different times with the same couple. Is that right? [00:11:00] Speaker B: That is correct. [00:11:01] Speaker C: Okay, so this is the issue. Okay. Like, so many people want to know, or maybe they have this imagination or this fantasy. Yeah. About being a throuple. Right. So there's a lot of couples out there, and usually in most cases, the couple is wanting to have a unicorn. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Yes. Like a female. Female. Right, female. [00:11:27] Speaker C: Now, obviously, because a lot of people that do listen to this podcast, a lot of them are from the hot wife or the cuckold type of swingerdom. Right, Yep. So some of those couples may be looking for a single guy. [00:11:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:11:45] Speaker C: Right. [00:11:46] Speaker B: A bull. [00:11:46] Speaker C: A bull. All right. And so what Charlie and I are going to do today is we're going to talk about what it's really like being the third in a throuple. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:11:57] Speaker C: We're going to talk about the highs, the heartbreaks, and the lessons that we learned the hard way. And when I say hard, I really mean hard. All right, and so as a brief disclaimer, we are going to change the names of certain actors and actresses in this episode to keep everything confidential. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:21] Speaker C: So let's talk about how it started. Okay. So we both knew a couple, you know, at different times. I met them first. [00:12:32] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:33] Speaker C: Yes, you did. And then we went through our cycle. And then you met them after me. [00:12:39] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:39] Speaker C: And then you went through your cycle. Correct. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Yes. And then you and I met. [00:12:44] Speaker C: And then you and I met. [00:12:45] Speaker B: Yes. And we were like, hey, we know the same couple. We have stories to swap. [00:12:50] Speaker A: Yes. [00:12:50] Speaker C: Yeah. So basically, we're going to talk about what made the connection exciting at first? Okay, so we'll talk about my experience and what made it exciting for me, Charlie. And then we'll talk about what made it exciting for you. Okay. [00:13:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:07] Speaker C: So what made it exciting for me was when I first met the couple, both. And for the show, we are going to call them. [00:13:18] Speaker B: We're gonna call him Val and her Veronica. [00:13:21] Speaker C: Okay, Veronica and Val. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:24] Speaker C: All right. So when I first met the couple, I actually first met Veronica, the lady of the couple. And so we're not gonna give too much information just to keep identities secret. But I thought that she was very genuine. She was very friendly, very articulate. She was an intelligent woman. She was a professional. And we had very, very good conversation. And I thought she was hot. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:57] Speaker C: You know, and so I talked with her, and we linked up off of social media, and one thing led to another, and we lived out of states. Well, we lived in different states at that time. And so later on, maybe a couple weeks down the line, I linked up with the husband. And so we're talking by phone, by video. And I really like the husband, too. So, you know, he was also super cool, very friendly, very affable. He was also a professional. And the VI's were all there. And so this couple, they were actually new to the lifestyle, but they were just so friendly. And they had pretty much just grew up fast in the lifestyle, like when they first initially got into it. Right. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:52] Speaker C: And so when I first met them, Charlie, it seemed to me like they were like, had been in the lifestyle for years and years and years. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Well, and I don't think it's giving too much away. They did have neighbors and friends that were in the lifestyle for quite a while. So it wasn't completely new to them, but it was like a, you know. [00:15:10] Speaker C: Okay. [00:15:10] Speaker B: I think a continuation of what they had heard over, you know. [00:15:14] Speaker C: Okay, okay. And I did not know that. And so what happened is we spent a few months kind of just talking back and forth. We exchanged phone numbers, and then we got on a group chat. So it was the three of us on the group chat. So many times we would have a group chat about, you know, about different topics. And then a lot of times, it was just me and Veronica on our own singular single chat with each other. Right. But I was always respectful, you know, never, you know, cross boundaries. And I always asked permission from Val to speak to his wife. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Yeah, that's bare. Bare minimum respect. [00:15:58] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. And so we got to a point where we're literally conversing and chatting like, every day, either by text message or phone call. [00:16:07] Speaker B: You and Veronica or both of them. [00:16:09] Speaker C: Great question. So me and Veronica, we were typically chatting every day. Every other day. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:15] Speaker C: And then me, Veronica, and Val, we were typically chatting about once a week, maybe twice a week. Week on average. Right. And so, yeah, it was super exciting. After about maybe three months, I had flown down to where they lived at, and we went to a hotel takeover. And we just had a blast of a time. [00:16:44] Speaker B: Nice. [00:16:45] Speaker C: And, like, I actually. Her. And then had a threesome with her and another lady. And then we had, like, an orgy situation. [00:16:55] Speaker B: Oh, yes. [00:16:56] Speaker C: With Veronica, two other ladies, and then another bull. [00:17:02] Speaker B: Okay. [00:17:03] Speaker C: Black dude. [00:17:04] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. [00:17:04] Speaker C: And so, like, after that, I was like, oh, this is fun. Yeah, this is great and fantastic. Sign me up. Right. And so they were listeners of the Bulls and Queens podcast. Podcast. And so that was actually how we initially connected. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Okay. [00:17:19] Speaker C: That was what made it exciting. And that's how I met them. So how did you meet them, Charlie? [00:17:27] Speaker B: Okay, so I met them. I was dating my ex, and we went to a. [00:17:35] Speaker C: The ex that we talked about in the previous episode. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:40] Speaker C: We were talking about Boston and Bob. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Boston Bob? That's what we called him. Yes, I was dating Boston Bob. He brought me into the lifestyle. We were on the end of our relationship at that point. We were probably a couple months away from ending, but we had gone to a. A. A lifestyle meet and greet, and it was like a Christmas situation thing. And I met. I. I didn't technically meet them. I was attacked by the woman, and she was. Yeah, she attacked me all of a sudden. All what I know is I was. We were making out at some point. We ended up on the floor outside. And then the car and the guys were just kind of hanging out, watching. [00:18:30] Speaker C: Guys were making out in the car. [00:18:32] Speaker B: Like, outside. Like, at the car. And then we got. They. We opened the door for me and Boston Bob to leave, but then her and I kind of. Kind of fell into the. [00:18:41] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a. Y' all fell into the car. [00:18:44] Speaker B: Like, we were. You know, we were. We were inebriated and enjoying each other's company. [00:18:49] Speaker C: Damn. [00:18:50] Speaker B: And the guys were standing by, just watching. [00:18:52] Speaker C: Damn. Well, I don't blame them for just standing by and watching. Honestly, one thing I joke about with you, Charlie, is I'm like, you know what? If I admit you and Veronica at the same time, we would have had a crazy threesome. [00:19:07] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:19:07] Speaker C: I would have blown two of your. [00:19:09] Speaker B: Oh, my God. That would have been crazy. So, yeah, so I met them at A Christmas party. And at the time, I was dating somebody and we made plans to talk in the future because on top of that, they were giving me kind of guiding me in the OnlyFans situation. [00:19:34] Speaker C: Okay, because you were new to only fans back then. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yes. I was not showing my face. I was still trying to figure out if it was something I could do or if I was going to like it. And I did not. I had not met anybody who had made money from it actually, you know, made. Was making decent money from it. So meeting somebody in person that was actually making it work is like, oh, hell yeah. So on top of me really liking the couple, I also. They know, they were. They were like, hey, you know, come, we will show you the ropes. And so that's kind of. That was that. Um, I. Yeah, we were. We. There wasn't talks of thrupletum yet because I was still with my. My partner. We. It was just kind of. We were inquiring, more of a swap situation, I think. [00:20:20] Speaker C: Okay. [00:20:20] Speaker B: Like orgy swap, you know. [00:20:22] Speaker C: Okay. And were you at that point, were you looking for a throuple or did it just happen naturally? Because I know at some point during that time span, you and Bob had broken up, Is that correct? [00:20:35] Speaker B: Yes. So we met. I met the couple in December, and then by February, him and I had broken up. And so the first thing that I was going to do with them happened after him and I broke up. So it did throw. It was, you know, they thought they were meeting a couple and now they've got a unicorn on their hands from a brand new broken relationship, which is not always the most comforting to anybody who might have angst. [00:21:12] Speaker C: Okay, okay. Yeah, got it. [00:21:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:14] Speaker C: Because from my standpoint as a couple, because we always hear about how unicorns are like the cream of the crop. [00:21:23] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:21:24] Speaker C: And the pinnacle of a lifestyle or his existence. Right? [00:21:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:27] Speaker C: Like they're a unicorn. Oh, my God. So, like, do you. So like, most people would think that, okay, well, you know, the. The guy's gone out of the couple and it's just the woman that's left. So it's just the unicorns. [00:21:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:39] Speaker C: Hell yeah. Party over here. But do you feel like there was angst because your ex was not present, so it wasn't going to be like a couple on couple type of swap? [00:21:51] Speaker B: I did not. At first. There was a tiny point in which I was explained to very, very, very briefly that, you know, they were from Veronica, she was excited, but she also had been excited because we were a couple. And now that I'M a unicorn. She has a way of explaining things without explaining things, like, okay, and it's very clear. [00:22:21] Speaker C: What does that mean? [00:22:22] Speaker B: I feel like she thinks she's explaining things when she's not being very clear and, and concise and, and forward. And so what I feel like she felt was very clear was very muddled and did not make sense. So. And throughout the, the situation, that was kind of the, the theme, she would, she would joke about things, she would mention them, but we would never have an actual conversation. And that's what I need. I need. We need to sit down and have a conversation if there's an issue or whatever. [00:22:58] Speaker C: Anyway, and this was pertaining to your. The three of you guys connection as a. As a unit. I mean, I mean, was it more of like a throuple at that point, or was it more of a just, hey, we're just hooking up? [00:23:11] Speaker B: Well, it took a little bit to come into fruition as to what my role, what they were interested in me for as. As my role would be with them. [00:23:21] Speaker C: Okay. [00:23:23] Speaker B: Because so, you know, the party happened and then multiple shoot houses happened. And along the way, she was very eager, as you know, on a. I would say a very weekly basis, if not daily basis, very clear with me that she wanted me to fuck her husband. [00:23:42] Speaker C: Okay. [00:23:43] Speaker B: That was. Talked about a lot. Okay, Joked about a lot. And. [00:23:50] Speaker C: But it wasn't really a joke, though. [00:23:52] Speaker B: It wasn't a joke. It was definitely not a joke. My husband and when I met them, they were currently looking for women for him, which was not a normal thing for them because he has a. A tougher time. He needs more of a connection than just plain old fucking. [00:24:10] Speaker C: Okay, Makes sense. Yeah, lots of guys are like that. [00:24:13] Speaker B: Exactly. And that's absolutely fine. So he was struggling to find anybody that he could connect with or have fun with. And so. But, you know, because there was an actual conversation, they would throw hints that they were looking for a girlfriend for him or this or that. And so being me, I was just like, I came out very clearly. I was like, I. I'm not. I can't. That's. I'm not looking to be a girlfriend. I have up to that point, I had read so many really bad situations and not very many good situations. [00:24:50] Speaker C: Okay. [00:24:51] Speaker B: Especially when there's a couple and then a person, if all three people come together as single individuals, that has way more of a potential of working than to a couple and one person. [00:25:05] Speaker C: Exactly. And I can see where that happens, because the one thing that you and I have talked about, Charlie Is there's a certain power dynamic. [00:25:15] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:16] Speaker C: Which naturally happens with a couple that have been together for years and years and years. And so Veronica and Vel had actually been together for many, many years as a couple, as a married couple. So, you know, naturally there's. There's going to be a power dynamic. They're going to have each other's back. [00:25:34] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:25:35] Speaker C: No matter what. [00:25:35] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:25:35] Speaker C: You know. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:25:37] Speaker C: And a lot of times this is good. Right. You know, because as a husband, wife, you do want to have each other's back come hell or high water. But things can get a little bit muddied when you have a third person that's new to the relationship because that person can be at a huge disadvantage. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:57] Speaker C: Because it's basically like if there's a disagreement that comes into fruition is basically a situation where that couple can basically gang up on you as a single. You know, it's like two on one. [00:26:11] Speaker B: Yes, yes. There are, there are multiple power dynamics that can come into play. And especially the problem, one of the bigger problems is, is this. In this situation, I was more. And you were more the same age as them, but a lot of the times the third person is usually very young and in their 20s or 30s. And that even adds way more of a power dynamic. You've got these, you know, people in their 40s and 50s dating a person in their 20s and 30s, and you've got them on a team and she's by herself. That is a. That is a nightmare waiting to happen if that couple doesn't take that responsibility properly. So it's like, you know, there are all kinds of dynamics where the couple doesn't want the third person to date anybody, but they're sitting there and they've got their partner. But I'm not allowed to fuck or date anybody else. Fuck that. [00:27:01] Speaker C: That's not cool. That's not cool. [00:27:03] Speaker B: There's all kinds of controlling things. There's also the whole thing of if, if you're in a throuple, okay, for me, I was in a. In a throuple. Ish situation with them and I was playing with both of them because I'm bi. [00:27:21] Speaker C: Okay. [00:27:21] Speaker B: But with you, you're only playing with her. But you're. You've got. You still have a great relationship with him because you are fucking his wife. [00:27:28] Speaker C: Correct. [00:27:30] Speaker B: There's definitely, you know, a lot of things going on. Another one of the dynamics that can be toxic is, okay, so you've got the two people, they go home every night, they have, you know, long talks about all these things that they're discussing with this third person. Well, that third person isn't in on those talks. There's a lot of stuff that can be handled and decided. And before that third person even gets to be in on the conversation, there's so many things that can go wrong, especially when the couple does not know that it's. That's their responsibility and does not take that responsibility disability seriously. [00:28:10] Speaker C: Okay. And that. And that makes sense. That makes total sense, Charlie. And so with me, you know, again, and before I talk a little bit more about my experience with the couple, what I would say to all couples out there, if you are looking for somebody to bring in as a third into your marriage or your relationship, make sure that you understand that there is always going to be a power dynamic which is always leaning in your favor. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Yes. [00:28:44] Speaker C: So whether you're trying to bring in a single lady, a unicorn, or you're trying to bring in a single guy, a bull, into your relationship, please make sure that you understand that power dynamic. Because no matter how well intentioned you, you are, you don't want to make that person, that single person feel like a piece of. All right. Because they are a human being. [00:29:09] Speaker B: Yes. [00:29:09] Speaker C: You know, they're not some toy for you to play with and then just toss aside like trash when you're done with them. [00:29:16] Speaker B: Which brings me to my other dynamic. [00:29:18] Speaker C: Okay. [00:29:19] Speaker B: Which is your dynamic where you're not playing with the guy, obviously, you're playing. You're his wife now. [00:29:26] Speaker A: He. [00:29:27] Speaker B: If they have a veto situation, he can at any time stop things immediately and he can have a veto and kick your ass to the curb. Whether she likes it or not, if they have that dynamic because he's uncomfortable or whatever, with no regards to how you feel about that or. I mean, obviously, if somebody wants to break up with you, you're not going to say, hey, we're not breaking up, you know, but without you even getting to. To have any, Any input into that. Yeah. So that, that is another thing that I, I've. That comes up a lot. Yeah. [00:29:59] Speaker C: Okay. And that makes sense. And so one thing that was a little bit different with my relationship versus yours, Charlie's, was that at one point, I actually moved in with them to their house. [00:30:12] Speaker A: Yes. [00:30:13] Speaker C: And it wasn't more of a. I moved in with them. I basically spent a few months with them. It was like I was on summer vacation. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:30:23] Speaker C: So I spent about a good three months over there. [00:30:26] Speaker B: Okay. [00:30:27] Speaker C: And so for the most part, you know, 90, 95 of my time was Fantastic. It was great. They welcomed me into their home and whatnot. We had great, pleasant times and great memories. But what happened was the end. The end of that relationship was a hot fucking mess. [00:30:50] Speaker B: Yes. [00:30:50] Speaker C: Right. As it is. So because of a disagreement that we had, which was minor and very minor. Very minor. And I've talked to several people about it, and I'm not going to say what that particular disagreement was because again, we're keeping anonymity. Anonymity. Thank you. But that small disagreement basically led to World War Three. [00:31:22] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:22] Speaker C: So basically hit the proverbial fan. The proverbial fan. And Veronica, when totally off the charred ape shit and basically just blew up, basically told me, you're never allowed on our property again. And, you know, you disrespected us and you're bad human being and, you know, you don't care about people and this and that, which I do, you know, and said a lot of other hurtful things. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:58] Speaker C: And then we jumps on a phone call, you know, because at this point I had left to come back to Vegas and so I jumped on a phone call with her and Val and basically it was basically a, hey, we are going to use you as a fucking punching bag. And all types of anger that we have in life, we are going to just throw, throw it at you. [00:32:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:32:29] Speaker C: You know, and I basically just got verbally assaulted and my ass beat on the phone, you know, and I took it for a good 10, 15 minutes until I blew the up myself. And so we had this loud, crazy shouting match. And so Veronica, she got us guys to settle down a bit, you know, but at the end of that conversation, we mutually agreed, hey, this friendship has ended. Right? [00:33:04] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:05] Speaker C: And so my biggest thing that I would say to Mo, anybody that wants to be part of a throuple, if you're a single person, whether you're a woman or a male man, I would tell you to not live with that couple. Do not live with a couple. You are putting yourself at an instant disadvantage. Like. Yeah. Even though things went well for me, I've heard so many horror stories from other singles that have moved in with a couple. There was a lady that we met at the Lifestyle Style Club out here a few weeks ago, and she was telling me the story about how she had moved in with a. Well, this was a. A guy. So it wasn't. She wasn't part of a throuple, but basically the guy, after she had moved into his house, he was inviting all types of ladies to come live there as well. Even though that Initial original lady. He was supposed to be his girlfriend. He brought in like three, four different women and had them live in the house. And you know, like those ladies wanted to fight. The original lady and police were called. It was a hot mess. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Oh my God. [00:34:28] Speaker C: So. Oh my God. Yeah, things. Things can happen. Crazy. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:35] Speaker C: So you don't know, know until you actually know. [00:34:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:40] Speaker C: So yeah, just my recommendation is I personally would never live with a couple. I would never be a part of a throuple, even if I was single, which I'm not. If you as a couple want to bring in a single. Okay. You know, you can do so. But you know, be careful about that, you know, because there are crazy singles out there. [00:35:08] Speaker B: There are. It can, it can happen just as easily the other way where the, the single person is batshit crazy and just trouble and they will cause a lot of issues. Some, some, some. There are a lot of single people that don't give a. About your marriage. So you need to be, be very careful about who you are inviting into your marriage. [00:35:33] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:35:33] Speaker B: Or your relationship in general. [00:35:34] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So how did hit the fan with you and the couple? So, so I met the couple again and we had our interaction and then World War III broke out and about, I think, what, six months later you met the couple? Yeah, no, it was actually about four months later. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Four months later. And you, you still. You and I still did not know each other. [00:35:56] Speaker C: Yeah, we did not know each other. [00:35:57] Speaker B: I heard your name often. Yeah, not by them, by other, other fans. Other creators that were fans. [00:36:04] Speaker C: They told her, if you see a short, big headed black dude, run away from him. [00:36:12] Speaker B: I did want to take a minute because something did pop up into my head because we were talking earlier about how we're going to frame this and so we're kind of talking about throuples kind of in a swinging capacity, but that can easily turn into more of a poly dynamic, which. [00:36:34] Speaker C: Poly. [00:36:34] Speaker B: Poly. Yeah. [00:36:35] Speaker C: Okay, you know what? Yeah, we're. I want you to hold that thought, Charlie. [00:36:40] Speaker B: All right. [00:36:40] Speaker C: And we're going to continue talking about that poly dynamic, all right. After these commercial messages. 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And this is going to be the experience of a lifetime for you wives out there as you go through your journey of finding your true sluttiness with Doc Chocolate. Want to find out more details and get your reservation with me? Then go now to hotwhitetrainingday.com to get started. Now back to the episode. We're back. So we were talking before the commercial. [00:38:20] Speaker B: About how this different throuple dynamics and in different lifestyle situations. So what? We, we are swingers. You and I are both swingers. We. You were a bull, I was a unicorn. So we were, we met this couple in that, in that fashion. In a, in a swinger fashion. It's let more. Way more about friendship and sex, a lot less about romance and like, you know, actually creating a long term connection in that sense anyway. [00:38:53] Speaker C: Yes. [00:38:54] Speaker B: But I do believe after, after we've talked so long and stuff, I was like, man, you, you were in a relationship. You had a girlfriend. I'm sorry, but you had a girlfriend. I feel like you, you, you kind of merged into a little polyesque situation. [00:39:11] Speaker C: Without knowing it, you know, and you're absolutely correct, Charlie. Because like when I look back at it, because we were going through my text messages back then. Yeah. And because I don't delete any, anything. And there was just like pages and pages and pages of like almost a year's worth of text message conversations and whatnot. And hey, honey, how you doing? Oh, I love you. And you know, this and that, back and forth and whatnot. And I was like, oh yeah, I guess, I guess I did have a little girlfriend. [00:39:45] Speaker B: You did, you did, buddy. [00:39:46] Speaker C: But the one thing I will say is I did respect Val because I never Veronica. Unless he was present or in the house. Well, I mean, maybe once or twice. [00:39:59] Speaker B: But like, not that he didn't want that anyway. [00:40:02] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [00:40:03] Speaker B: It wasn't like against his wishes, but. [00:40:05] Speaker C: It was out of respect. [00:40:06] Speaker B: But you were, you were doing it on your own terms. Out of respect. [00:40:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I, I don't want to. Your wife and you're not there. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Because I feel like that was his thing. [00:40:14] Speaker C: Yeah. Because, like, I feel like I'm going into another man's home and disrespecting him, you know, And I'm sure. Yeah. And at the end of the day, you know, I am not the king. You are the king, you know, so, like, I am going to respect that man's household. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:28] Speaker C: His woman, the wife, Veronica, she is the queen. You know, I am just the jack. [00:40:36] Speaker B: My God. [00:40:38] Speaker C: Or the joker. [00:40:39] Speaker B: Yeah, you're. You're the, you're the cherry on top. [00:40:43] Speaker C: The top. So. But go ahead. [00:40:46] Speaker B: So, yes, if you are so in the swinger, it's a lot lighter. It's. It. We are talking more fun, more, More friendship. Still needs to have many conversations, but not nearly as many as, like, if you're doing a poly where there's romance, you've got families connected and all that stuff, that's a lot more complicated. That's not necessarily what we're talking about. [00:41:08] Speaker C: Okay. And. And yeah, and our families were somewhat, you know, I won't go into detail, but. [00:41:13] Speaker B: Yeah, you were, you were good. [00:41:14] Speaker C: Yeah, they were somewhat. Yeah. [00:41:16] Speaker B: Yeah. So. Okay, so I knew them for just a little. About a month and a half. It was very quick. So your, Your union was very long compared to mine. [00:41:28] Speaker C: Union. [00:41:29] Speaker B: I was there for a couple shoot houses. We will pass over some things. [00:41:37] Speaker C: You guys, you guys went to other people's shoot houses? [00:41:39] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. And some things happen in between that were a little red flaggy. But. But the main thing was we met. We. I went over there one night and we were supposed to have a night and it wasn't exactly close. Clear. [00:42:01] Speaker C: Have a night of what? [00:42:03] Speaker B: Fun. And okay, yeah. The three of us got it. It wasn't clear what was gonna happen. It wasn't clear like who was gonna be involved. [00:42:14] Speaker C: It. [00:42:14] Speaker B: I assumed everybody was gonna be involved. [00:42:17] Speaker C: Because you, Veronica and Val. Yes, we're gonna. Each other. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:21] Speaker C: Okay. [00:42:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And because the way the, the texts, you know, were worded and everything that makes sense and you know, it's. It. It's just another night where we're partying and fucking. It's nothing special. [00:42:33] Speaker C: That makes sense. [00:42:33] Speaker B: So I get there and I am presented with a choice. [00:42:38] Speaker C: Okay, well, it was a choice. Oh my God. You got me on the edge of my seat now. [00:42:42] Speaker B: The blue pill or the red pill? [00:42:45] Speaker C: I just always choose the red pill, baby. [00:42:48] Speaker B: So, yeah, so I was, I was given a choice. What I wanted to do was. Which I thought was very strange. That wasn't the case normally. [00:42:57] Speaker C: Okay. [00:42:59] Speaker B: And so I'm a person that when I'm with a couple, I want to make them happy. I'm. I'm not a sex toy for them, but I am there for them. We're all there for each other. [00:43:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:14] Speaker B: And I wanted, you know, I had been. There had been this idea of fucking her husband, drilled in every week, every day, whatever. And so I guessed. I made a guess. I was like, obviously, if it's not all three, if it's gonna be all three of us, why is she asking? [00:43:36] Speaker C: Makes sense, you know? Yeah. [00:43:37] Speaker B: So I'm like, I'm open. What would you like to do? And, you know, that was more put back on me. And I'm like, well, would you like me to your husband? I can do that. Like, I felt like it was weird, it was strange, and it was like, why are you asking me? You don't usually, you know, I was like, what do you guys want to do? You know, I'm for. I'm usually up for anything fun. Charlie, for fuck's sake. Fuck yeah. [00:44:00] Speaker C: You know, and yeah, just like me, you're a people pleaser, so you want to please. I did. [00:44:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And this was something that she stated very, very clearly over and over and over, that this is what she wanted. So that's what we did. And so she left the room, went back and told her husband he came out without her. And so I assumed things were good. And this is what we're supposed to do. [00:44:23] Speaker C: Okay. [00:44:24] Speaker B: This is what's going to happen. [00:44:25] Speaker C: So you fucked. [00:44:25] Speaker B: So we. Yeah, I sort of got on him and started doing my stuff. Doing my fun Charlie stuff. [00:44:31] Speaker C: Doing your fun Charlie stuff? Yeah. Okay. You're writing and, you know, squeezing and. [00:44:35] Speaker B: Moaning, grinding on his hack in. In his pants and getting them all ready. [00:44:39] Speaker C: Were you deep throating him? [00:44:40] Speaker B: No, not yet. [00:44:41] Speaker C: Okay. [00:44:41] Speaker B: Not yet. Don't go too fast. [00:44:43] Speaker C: My bad. That's what she said. [00:44:44] Speaker B: Yep. And then we moved to the bedroom. And I am a noisy. [00:44:52] Speaker C: Yes, you are. You love to make noise. [00:44:54] Speaker B: I do. And the. The partners usually love the. The noises. [00:44:59] Speaker C: I know, I. I know. I love the noises. [00:45:02] Speaker B: And so noises are happening. Fucking is happening. We, I don't know, we're there. We're probably 20 minutes, 20, 30 minutes. Not crazy long. Maybe 45, I guess, if we're. But somewhere in there we were done. We were hanging out a little bit, chit chatting, and then he went off to the. To be with his wife in their bedroom. [00:45:27] Speaker C: And at that point everything seemed like it was normal. [00:45:30] Speaker B: It was just like everything Seemed very, very normal. Everything was cool. No problems. [00:45:35] Speaker C: Okay. [00:45:36] Speaker B: I hear some disturbances out in the kitchen. [00:45:42] Speaker C: Okay. [00:45:42] Speaker B: So. And I'm thinking probably it's gonna be Veronica. [00:45:45] Speaker C: Okay. [00:45:46] Speaker B: So I wanted to thank her for letting me fuck her husband. [00:45:49] Speaker C: Okay. [00:45:50] Speaker B: And letting me stay the night and, you know, just being, you know, awesome people. [00:45:54] Speaker C: Okay. [00:45:55] Speaker B: I go out. She's in the refrigerator putting something away. I proceed to give her a huge hug behind her. [00:46:06] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:07] Speaker B: Thanking her for letting me fuck her husband. [00:46:10] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:11] Speaker B: To which she turns around and gives me this look of evil like I've never seen. And with red eyes, as if she had been crying. [00:46:24] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:25] Speaker B: And I was like, oh, fuck, what did I do? What the fuck did I do? [00:46:30] Speaker C: That was your first reaction? [00:46:31] Speaker B: Oh, fuck. Yes. I immediately retracted. I gave her space. I was like, I'm so. I'm sorry. And I just went to my room. She definitely did not look like she wanted to talk. I. I was very confused. I wasn't sure what was going on, so I went to my room. [00:46:48] Speaker C: Okay, fair enough. [00:46:49] Speaker B: I texted Boston Bob. I was like, I don't know what's going on, but it's three in the morning. I may need you to pick me up. [00:46:58] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:59] Speaker B: Like, I may have fucked up. [00:47:00] Speaker C: Okay. [00:47:00] Speaker B: Yeah. So next morning, everything was fine. We talked it out. It was a misunderstanding, or so I. I thought. [00:47:08] Speaker C: You and Veronica. [00:47:09] Speaker B: Yes, me and Veronica talked it out. It was a misunderstanding. She assumed I was gonna say all three of us. I don't know why I was given the choice in the first place if it was not gonna be all three of us. And I assumed she wanted me to fuck her husband. And we seemingly talked it out as adults do. [00:47:31] Speaker C: Okay. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Okay. [00:47:32] Speaker C: Which is perfect. So, you know, at that point, there's no harm, no foul. [00:47:35] Speaker B: Yes. [00:47:36] Speaker C: Right. So there's a misunderstanding. You guys talk it out. Apologies are given. [00:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:43] Speaker C: And, you know, again, you guys are all adults, and so everything should be hunky dory at that point. Right? [00:47:49] Speaker B: Yes, I was. So. [00:47:52] Speaker C: So what happened next? [00:47:53] Speaker B: Days go by and we're. We're texting, but she's being very minimal text, which is not like her. I am definitely giving her space, trying to let her heal and process everything that happened. I've definitely been in the same situation, which is one thing I pride myself on, is that I've been in a relationship, in the lifestyle, and I've also been a unicorn. So I can. I can empathize when the women are having a hard time, when they're struggling. So I'm very aware of myself and the woman when she is struggling. [00:48:27] Speaker C: Okay. [00:48:27] Speaker B: So it turns out that she couldn't get over it and she had it in her head that I did it on purpose and left her out on purpose. [00:48:39] Speaker C: And that you were being malicious. [00:48:41] Speaker B: Malicious. That was definitely the word. Malicious. [00:48:44] Speaker C: Okay. [00:48:45] Speaker B: And which anybody who knows me knows that is not me even in the slightest. [00:48:52] Speaker C: And so there's been some times where you've been. You've maliciously ridden my dick. There was a lot of malice coming from your pussy. [00:49:01] Speaker B: Oh, good times, good times. So there was another conversation. It was a blow up. Basically, she couldn't forgive me and never get over it. So we are not going to be friends and I'm done. And at this point, they had encouraged me to put my face on Twitter, to put my pussy on Twitter and then just dropped. Dropped me. I hadn't. I was floored. I was confused. I was shaken. And until Pod Bash this last year, I have not been with a couple since then. [00:49:41] Speaker C: Wow. [00:49:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:42] Speaker C: That is crazy. [00:49:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:44] Speaker C: I did not know that. [00:49:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:45] Speaker C: Wow. So, yeah. So you and I got with a couple. [00:49:48] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. [00:49:50] Speaker C: Yeah. Wow. So, and this happened a few months after my interaction with Veronica and Val. And so when you and I met, you know, we start talking and chatting and obviously there's many people that we both mutually know. Yes, right. [00:50:16] Speaker B: Yes. [00:50:17] Speaker C: And their name came up and we were like, oh, hey, we know these people. And then, you know, obviously I think I don't want to say anything bad about them. So like I kind of ask you about them. [00:50:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:31] Speaker C: And then your response was a little bit politically correct. [00:50:36] Speaker B: Yes. [00:50:37] Speaker C: So at that point I could read the body language and I was like, oh, there's been some shit. So I had. So what I basically did was I told you, I gave you like a little 10 or 15 second summary of what happened in my relationship with that couple. And then when I told you that, you totally opened up. It was like the floodgates were open. [00:50:59] Speaker B: Well, and. And to this, at this point, you had only discussed this with one person. [00:51:04] Speaker C: Correct. [00:51:05] Speaker B: And I hadn't only discussed it with my. My ex partner. So we were still both giving them good praise. We were talking them up when we talked about them. I still, I still appreciate what they did for me in the beginning. [00:51:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:21] Speaker B: And I know you do too. You appreciated all the things that they did for you and the times you guys had. [00:51:27] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. [00:51:28] Speaker B: Definitely. But at that point we had not. We were not. And we still don't badmouth them ever. Like, to anybody. We give our experience and our warnings if we know that someone is going to try and enter into a throuple. We're like, hey, this is, this is what we've been through, the good, the. [00:51:49] Speaker C: Bad, and the ugly. [00:51:50] Speaker B: But up to that point when we started talking, we had not talked about it to anybody else except one other person for each of us. [00:51:56] Speaker C: Correct. [00:51:56] Speaker B: So when we finally, when we. It was like a few minutes into like our first zoom date thing, and you. When you sense that I was a little off, you're like, well, I'm not on the best terms with them. And I was like, oh, you too. So then, boom. That was four hours of conversation and liquor. [00:52:15] Speaker C: And we was that long. [00:52:17] Speaker B: Yes. It was like three or four hours. Yes, yes. Both. Both a couple. Like, we had two or three zoom dates. Both of them were like insanely long. But yeah. And we just. And we talked about it and talked about it because we were both very confused as to how we caused this crazy blow up of a situation. And when we say blow up, we're talking high school level bombs drop like it is. It's crazy. So it's very. It was very shaky shake. It shook us to our core. [00:52:53] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:52:54] Speaker B: You would say. [00:52:54] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would agree with you with that assertion. And so once we connected, we knew what was going on. And so that was actually a source of healing for myself. And I know it was a source of healing for you as well, Charlie. [00:53:11] Speaker B: Yes. [00:53:12] Speaker C: When we were able to exchange our stories, the Good, the Bad and the ugly, and I was able to fill in many, many pieces of questions that you had, because obviously I'd known the couple for about a year. [00:53:25] Speaker B: Yes. [00:53:26] Speaker C: So I was able to tell you, oh, this is what they were thinking. This, this is what likely happened. This is what their thought process probably was like. And that gave you understanding as well. [00:53:39] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:53:40] Speaker C: And so, yeah, I think then you as well for me. So let me ask you this, Charlie. Would you ever get into a throuple situationship again where you're the single? [00:53:56] Speaker B: Oh, no, absolutely not. No. [00:53:58] Speaker C: Now, you and I, at points in our relationship, has talked about, hey, what would it be like to have like a single girl in our relationship? Right. [00:54:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:08] Speaker C: And. And what, what did we talk about and decide and all that? [00:54:12] Speaker B: Oh, for fun. Yes. For relationship. No. Being in a relationship, especially as creators and lifestyle, it is complicated. Being in a normal monogamy relationship is complicated. [00:54:28] Speaker C: Yes. [00:54:28] Speaker B: Adding a third dynamic, third person dynamic to that, especially if they are have to be into both of you at the same. Oh my God, that's like the worst. That it is the hardest dynamic to actually make work. So understand what you are getting yourself into when you're thinking about doing that, because it is. It's a lot. And while there can be some crazy fun times, you can be dropped like a rock and it can throw you off, like. [00:55:04] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially if you're a caring person. Because both Charlie and I are caring people. And. Yeah, we're people pleasers to a certain degree. [00:55:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:14] Speaker C: And so we really throw our emotions into our relationships. [00:55:18] Speaker B: Yes. [00:55:19] Speaker C: And so that can really be damaging. [00:55:23] Speaker B: Yes. [00:55:23] Speaker C: I don't want to say traumatic because, like, I feel like people overuse the word trauma. Yeah, yeah. [00:55:28] Speaker B: But I do. But it. Both you and I take very big. We've both been married and we both have major responsibility when we do come to a couple. And so it's like, I understand being married, I understand being in a relationship in this. So there is so much respect that we both have for that couple. So. And you have to take it seriously. There are so many horror stories about unicorns not giving a fuck about your marriage and being cool with breaking it up. A lot of the young girls have not been married. And let me tell you, you do need to be married to. To totally understand and respect that relationship. So understand what you are opening yourselves up to. [00:56:17] Speaker C: Correct. And I will say on top of what you said, Charlie, is that it can even go both ways because there are some couples that will invite a bull into their relationship. [00:56:34] Speaker B: Right. [00:56:35] Speaker C: And obviously, again, yeah, both you and I have been in long term marriages, so both of us have been in 20 plus year marriages to other people. [00:56:47] Speaker A: And. [00:56:50] Speaker C: Both of us deal with our own demons and demons and whatnot. Internal and all that. External. It goes both ways. You know, be careful of bringing bulls. Single bulls into your relationship as well, because we've heard a couple horror. Horror stories. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:57:09] Speaker C: About single bulls that have, you know, gone in and try and like, destroy. Yeah. Destroy that marriage. [00:57:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:17] Speaker C: So be careful, like both ways. If you're a single, be careful of getting into a relationship with a couple. Vice versa. Couples be leery of getting into a relationship with a single. I 110 agree with you, Charlie, that if you're gonna bring in a single into your atmosphere and into your orbit, I personally will keep it more of a sexual slash friendship type of dynamic. [00:57:48] Speaker B: Definitely. [00:57:49] Speaker C: I would not have it be a relationship, you know, that just keeps things nice and clear and couples understand that. You do not own that single person. [00:58:03] Speaker B: No. [00:58:04] Speaker C: You do not own that unicorn. [00:58:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:07] Speaker C: You do not own that bull. [00:58:08] Speaker B: No. [00:58:09] Speaker C: They can be free to get a partner if they want. [00:58:14] Speaker B: Yes. [00:58:14] Speaker C: You know, and that's all I will say. [00:58:19] Speaker B: Yes, that's very good. [00:58:20] Speaker C: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Do you have anything to say more about throuples? [00:58:24] Speaker B: Hmm, I don't think so. I mean, I, it, I do think there's, there is a fun to it. And if all parties are on the same page, it can be a hell of a time. You just have to be careful about catching feelings and talking things out if and when things get a little more serious and make sure that you are covered as a couple, as a single person. And you know, I just, yeah, hopefully everything works out. But yeah, heed our warning. [00:58:58] Speaker C: Heed our warning. So this has been Dog Chocolate. You can find my good stuff at Doc chocolate fans and funcharli.com to find. [00:59:11] Speaker B: All my spicy videos and chat with me. [00:59:15] Speaker C: And until the next episode, Bulls and Queens Nation. Y' all stay sexy, y' all stay blessed and you guys do good to each other. Bye bye. [00:59:26] Speaker A: Thank you for listening to everybody's favorite black man candy, Doc Chocolate of the Bulls and Queens podcast. 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