161 | SWINGER COUPLE SWAP!! Thomas Colt & Katie Kampbell from Texas

WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.440 --> 00:00:26.869 Doc and Charlie: Alright, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Bulls and Queens podcast, where we talk about everything that is lifestyle-adjacent and adult content creator. And we are up here with another awesome episode that is sure to entice you, make your vaginas wet, and your penises extra, extra… 2 00:00:26.870 --> 00:00:29.439 Doc and Charlie: hard with no trimix. 3 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:40.380 Doc and Charlie: So, I am your host, Doc Chocolate. You can find me and my good stuff at DocChocolateFans.com, and I have my lovely co-host, girlfriend, queen of the hour. 4 00:00:40.380 --> 00:00:47.450 Doc and Charlie: Fun Charlie! And how do people find you, Fun Charlie? FunCharlie.com. FunCharlie.com, baby! Make sure you go there. 5 00:00:47.450 --> 00:01:10.929 Doc and Charlie: And before we introduce the couple that we have on here, I want y'all to make sure you go to our OnlyFans, and our videos, and our little smut that we do on the side. We do that, it keeps the… a roof over our head, right? It does, it does. Yeah, yeah. We do it for you. Yes, yes, we… We fuck for you. We fuck for you. 6 00:01:10.930 --> 00:01:12.329 Doc and Charlie: That's our slogan, yes. 7 00:01:12.330 --> 00:01:13.300 Thomas and Katie: We should… 8 00:01:13.300 --> 00:01:34.649 Doc and Charlie: Run for president in 2028? Right? President, vice president? Fuck for you, baby. Fuck for you. 2028, baby. Yeah. So, it's not real. No, I mean, it's like, yeah, okay, let's talk about it. Totally, yes. So, DocchocolateFans.com and FunCharlie.com, make sure you check it out. And also, whatever platform you're listening to this on, whether it is 9 00:01:34.650 --> 00:01:39.169 Doc and Charlie: Google, whether it is Amazon, whether it is… 10 00:01:39.620 --> 00:01:56.429 Doc and Charlie: Spotify, whether it is Apple Podcasts, make sure you hit that subscribe button so that you're notified of when future episodes appear. Yes. Alright? So, without further ado, drumroll please, Charlie, drumroll. 11 00:01:57.230 --> 00:01:59.650 Doc and Charlie: That was a pretty decent job roll. Yeah. All right. 12 00:01:59.720 --> 00:02:00.350 Doc and Charlie: So. 13 00:02:00.350 --> 00:02:23.109 Doc and Charlie: The couple that we have today is Thomas Colts and Katie Campbell. So, let me go ahead and introduce them. So, Thomas Colts, you can find him on his Twitter, which is at ThomasColtz44. He is the world's strongest adult actor. Look at those biceps, those biceps are bigger than… 14 00:02:23.110 --> 00:02:23.580 Thomas and Katie: normal. 15 00:02:23.580 --> 00:02:36.480 Doc and Charlie: Hogan's biceps, he has 20-inch biceps over there. And he is a pleasure dom, and he goes by the slogan and the motto, Baddies Need Daddies. 16 00:02:37.230 --> 00:02:50.089 Doc and Charlie: Are you a baddie that needs a daddy, Charlie? I have had his daddy. Oh, you have had his daddy! Oh, did you call him daddy? I didn't. You didn't? No. 17 00:02:50.660 --> 00:03:03.109 Doc and Charlie: Incorporate, yeah. Maybe the third time will be the charm. Yeah. And his lovely, gorgeous woman, fiance… 18 00:03:03.220 --> 00:03:06.190 Doc and Charlie: Her name is… Because I didn't know that! Sorry. 19 00:03:06.190 --> 00:03:07.030 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 20 00:03:07.030 --> 00:03:08.110 Doc and Charlie: We kind of… 21 00:03:08.110 --> 00:03:12.940 Thomas and Katie: speak it. It's not necessarily formal, but, you know… Yeah. 22 00:03:12.940 --> 00:03:14.319 Doc and Charlie: Next is gonna end up together 23 00:03:15.160 --> 00:03:21.500 Doc and Charlie: Okay, so for this podcast, his fiancee, Katie Campbell. She is a 24 00:03:21.500 --> 00:03:36.890 Doc and Charlie: blonde vixen with eyes that will burn through your soul. She has, like, the most incredible, like, blue, gray, icy eyes. Yes, and you can find her on her Twitter, which is KatieCampbell… 25 00:03:37.100 --> 00:03:48.829 Doc and Charlie: 1, alright? And the 1 is a number, not spelled out. Alright. So, Thomas, Katie, based in Dallas, you guys are the AVN2026 26 00:03:49.020 --> 00:03:53.520 Doc and Charlie: Favorite Creator Couple nominee? How are y'all doing today? 27 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.860 Thomas and Katie: Pretty good. I just want to also add, she was also nominated for Hottest New Creator. 28 00:03:58.180 --> 00:04:03.319 Doc and Charlie: Oh! Congratulations! That's what I'm talking about! 29 00:04:03.320 --> 00:04:05.089 Thomas and Katie: Crazy. Crazy. 30 00:04:05.090 --> 00:04:07.650 Doc and Charlie: Oh, yes, that's awesome! Yes! 31 00:04:07.650 --> 00:04:08.410 Thomas and Katie: exciting. 32 00:04:08.410 --> 00:04:08.850 Doc and Charlie: Alright. 33 00:04:08.850 --> 00:04:10.410 Thomas and Katie: Flattering. 34 00:04:10.410 --> 00:04:22.629 Doc and Charlie: So… Fuck yeah! Let's start off with how you guys had your beginning. So, you guys, obviously we'd known you guys for about, what, two years, I want to say? 35 00:04:22.630 --> 00:04:27.460 Thomas and Katie: Almost two. Almost two, probably, since the first time you sent me a message. 36 00:04:27.610 --> 00:04:36.180 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. Do you remember that? I thought you sent me a message, young lady. No, sir. No, sir. I thought you were approving my DM. 37 00:04:36.180 --> 00:04:54.819 Thomas and Katie: I got added to your group, and then I think you sent a message, and I said, I can't travel, blah blah blah. But then I started questioning if you were real. Yeah, because I was like, there's no way that this guy that has this many followers messaged me. 38 00:04:55.660 --> 00:04:57.390 Thomas and Katie: So, I… 39 00:04:57.590 --> 00:05:05.660 Thomas and Katie: But I remember you sent me, like, the cutest little video message, and you were like, this is me, and then from then on, I was like, that's my crush. 40 00:05:05.660 --> 00:05:21.760 Doc and Charlie: I was quite honored, I was quite honored. I definitely need to meet this Katie Campbell lady. And I do remember, yes, I do remember, because it took literally about a year before we actually met, because all four of us actually met physically. 41 00:05:22.350 --> 00:05:36.199 Doc and Charlie: ago, and I remember we had been chatting on and off for about a year, I want to say. And, you're like, okay, I just gotta… I just gotta make sure that my boyfriend is okay with this, because, like… 42 00:05:36.200 --> 00:05:45.859 Thomas and Katie: That comes from the lifestyle world. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Checking in, checking in, these things good, you know? So… Yeah. 43 00:05:45.860 --> 00:05:46.929 Doc and Charlie: It's important. 44 00:05:46.930 --> 00:05:47.730 Thomas and Katie: Yes. 45 00:05:47.730 --> 00:05:57.229 Doc and Charlie: And so, we all finally met in Dallas, and it was during that weekend when Mike Tyson was getting beat up by Jake Paul. You know that? 46 00:05:58.420 --> 00:06:03.460 Doc and Charlie: Yes. Yeah. We had ourselves quite a time. We had ourselves a. 47 00:06:03.460 --> 00:06:03.840 Thomas and Katie: Oh, no. 48 00:06:03.840 --> 00:06:10.720 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, we did. And, like, Katie was, well, Katie, explain what you were doing. 49 00:06:11.200 --> 00:06:28.689 Thomas and Katie: Well, you know, we… there was a lot of terms thrown around about Dallas and cowboys, and… and you had your little cute cowboy hat that you'd gotten, and so, you know, when I climbed on top, take a little ride, the wonderful Thomas. 50 00:06:28.690 --> 00:06:29.370 Doc and Charlie: No! 51 00:06:29.370 --> 00:06:38.509 Thomas and Katie: I remember you talking about wanting to do that, so I was like, okay, you're in position, let me go grab it. So then, you know, I got to ride my bull. 52 00:06:38.510 --> 00:06:53.419 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, yeah, she did, because, like, I remember she, yeah, she was, like, riding on top of me in cowgirl, and she took my cowboy hat and was like, yeah! Welcome to Texas. Only in Texas, only in Texas. 53 00:06:53.420 --> 00:06:54.350 Thomas and Katie: So, I mean. 54 00:06:54.350 --> 00:06:59.419 Doc and Charlie: And that was a really good introduction, you know, like, that's how us couples in the lifestyle meet. 55 00:06:59.990 --> 00:07:11.610 Doc and Charlie: and we fuck each other. Yeah. And then, like, you, you and Thomas, I recall, had you guys, you were so spite of time. We did. We did. It was very, it was very good. 56 00:07:11.610 --> 00:07:12.599 Thomas and Katie: It was very… 57 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:26.169 Doc and Charlie: We had to… we were… God, I wish I… I need to re-watch that video, I should have watched that before, because I was like, I know… I remember being at the front of the bed with him, and you guys were kind of at the end of the bed. 58 00:07:26.750 --> 00:07:35.360 Doc and Charlie: We're trying to all maneuver, but then I feel like one couple was going at a different speed than us, or… 59 00:07:36.560 --> 00:08:01.520 Doc and Charlie: vice versa, and so it was just like, we were all trying to, like, get into rhythm at the same time and stuff, but no, it was really hot, and it was fun, and yeah, we've done it twice with them now. Yes, yes, once in Dallas, and then once in Vegas, and Thomas, I must say that you made me proud, because, like, back then, you were a newer creator, if I recall correctly, and so sometimes, especially with males, okay, it's tough for us guys, right? 60 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:17.690 Doc and Charlie: Because, like, you know, we gotta make sure our dicks are hard, we gotta make sure, you know, our minds are in it, and, like, you know, so I'm kind of, like, looking over at you, and just, you know, making sure that you're good, and you… you were a pro's pro. You were handling that shit, like. 61 00:08:18.400 --> 00:08:19.560 Doc and Charlie: He was. 62 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:27.840 Thomas and Katie: Yeah, I had to make sure that I was, you know, being equal with what was across from me, so I had to… And that is not easy. Yeah, exactly. 63 00:08:27.840 --> 00:08:34.960 Doc and Charlie: That is not easy. We do not run into that very often, so it is always appreciated. Yes, yes. I'm like, it's freezing this? Come on, man! 64 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:35.530 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 65 00:08:35.530 --> 00:08:53.160 Doc and Charlie: And Thomas even stole my move. So, like, I have a move where I get ladies on my shoulders, I get two ladies on my shoulder, one on my left shoulder, one on my right shoulder, and I stand up, and I'm looking all, like, like Mr. Strongman of the world, and Thomas… 66 00:08:53.490 --> 00:08:56.859 Doc and Charlie: You know, he's slightly stronger than I am. 67 00:08:56.860 --> 00:08:58.270 Thomas and Katie: Lightly. 68 00:08:58.270 --> 00:09:07.219 Doc and Charlie: Just slightly, just slightly. Also, just slightly taller. Just slightly taller. A little bit. What are you? You 6' what? 69 00:09:07.510 --> 00:09:11.440 Thomas and Katie: 6 foot, 6'1", somewhere, like, right there. 70 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:12.659 Doc and Charlie: Okay, okay, okay, okay. 71 00:09:12.660 --> 00:09:13.280 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 72 00:09:13.280 --> 00:09:23.460 Doc and Charlie: slightly taller. And, like, like, you put the ladies on his shoulders, and I was like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm stealing my move. This move is trademarked, motherfucker. 73 00:09:23.460 --> 00:09:37.249 Doc and Charlie: And then I saw you doing it to other ladies! Like, I would go, I would go on Twitter, like, you know, and then I'd be like, you know, Thomas Cole would pop up, and I'm like, why is this dude, like, doing it to me? 74 00:09:37.250 --> 00:09:38.000 Thomas and Katie: manipulating. 75 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:40.539 Thomas and Katie: I didn't steal the finger point. 76 00:09:40.540 --> 00:10:01.770 Doc and Charlie: Oh my god. But, I mean, that's the good thing, though, about content creation. So, like, I feel like with content creation, I feel like, so many people, when they're doing OnlyFans or minivids and whatnot, because obviously there's a lot of lifestyle couples that do this, or lifestyle singles that do this, right? Absolutely. And I feel like all they do is they just make 77 00:10:01.770 --> 00:10:12.079 Doc and Charlie: fucking content, and, like, that's it. They don't have any fun, from my opinion. There's no storyline, there's no, like, whatever. It's just like, hey, let's just fuck. Gonzo. 78 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:12.780 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 79 00:10:12.780 --> 00:10:13.260 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. 80 00:10:13.260 --> 00:10:22.000 Thomas and Katie: I feel like, and I tell people, I, you know, I tried to make a poll on Twitter recently, and it was, it was actually split really evenly, but 81 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:33.799 Thomas and Katie: Because I was trying to figure out, the skits and scenarios, we like to be real silly with it, you know, come up with the really dumb tropes. While I'm fucking, like, then something's wrong. 82 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:40.990 Thomas and Katie: Like, there's gotta be a point where I'm just laughing. Yes. You just gotta have fun. Yeah. You know? 83 00:10:40.990 --> 00:10:44.599 Doc and Charlie: For sure. There can be little hot moments in between, but yes, laughing. 84 00:10:44.600 --> 00:11:09.419 Thomas and Katie: Exactly. And so, but yeah, you know, I like that, we both like doing the little skits and scenarios and, you know, getting our creative juices flowing, and then, you know, sometimes I feel like we're just doing it for us, and the fan might not care, but… It's okay. Yeah. But actually, in the poll, you know, it was pretty split evenly between, like, real silly skits, realistic scenarios, and gone 85 00:11:09.420 --> 00:11:10.330 Thomas and Katie: So, yes. 86 00:11:10.750 --> 00:11:12.600 Thomas and Katie: split, yeah, so… 87 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:13.149 Doc and Charlie: Pretty good, though. 88 00:11:13.150 --> 00:11:14.260 Thomas and Katie: Someone liked it. 89 00:11:14.260 --> 00:11:38.540 Doc and Charlie: No, I love it. It really is. You guys were very good, and you were, like, all yes and, and it was, like, it was a very good, creative evening, and we definitely have to, plan our visit, next visit, very well, because I… I've had tons of frickin' ideas, and I'm kicking myself because I was exhausted when we did this, because we went after Splash. 90 00:11:38.620 --> 00:11:49.320 Doc and Charlie: And so, like, we did not… you and I are gonna look very hot on, like, girl-girl shit. We did not utilize that then. I was disgusted, so I apologize. 91 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:58.099 Thomas and Katie: So, I… I cut the girl-girl portion from that night. Yes. …and have it on minivids. It's my top seller. 92 00:11:58.100 --> 00:11:59.520 Doc and Charlie: Oh, shit! 93 00:11:59.520 --> 00:12:04.260 Thomas and Katie: My top-selling video, is just the me and you portion. 94 00:12:04.260 --> 00:12:08.619 Doc and Charlie: Yes, we are… we are… we're gonna be talking, for sure. I've got… I've had… 95 00:12:08.780 --> 00:12:14.240 Doc and Charlie: things in my head. I mean… I love that, because my girl girls stuff doesn't… 96 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:26.620 Doc and Charlie: I gotta reprice it, though, but… Yeah, yeah, don't sell it so expensive, because, okay, we… okay, Thomas, you and I, we have two beautiful, lovely, blonde ladies, like… 97 00:12:26.620 --> 00:12:35.180 Doc and Charlie: Of course your shit should sell, and when you guys get… when you two ladies get together, that should create, like, a sexual synergy. 98 00:12:35.180 --> 00:12:35.990 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 99 00:12:36.180 --> 00:12:39.049 Doc and Charlie: That invites more money to come in. Yes. 100 00:12:39.530 --> 00:12:40.060 Doc and Charlie: Hmm, yeah. 101 00:12:40.060 --> 00:12:40.800 Thomas and Katie: Exactly. 102 00:12:40.800 --> 00:12:58.900 Doc and Charlie: For sure. Yeah, so, like, okay, yeah, next time when we get together, which will probably be in a couple months, you know… Yeah, we're gonna… we're gonna fast-track that, but there's gonna… yeah, we're… Yeah. Yeah, and we're gonna talk afterwards about minivans after this is done, okay? So, anyways… 103 00:12:58.940 --> 00:13:03.350 Doc and Charlie: How did y'all meet? Because it was in the lifestyle, is that correct? 104 00:13:03.500 --> 00:13:04.739 Thomas and Katie: It was, yeah. 105 00:13:04.740 --> 00:13:10.050 Doc and Charlie: Give us your origin story, and keep it to two and a half minutes. 106 00:13:10.050 --> 00:13:18.019 Thomas and Katie: So, we were both in the lifestyle. He'd been in for about 3 years. I was fairly recent. We met. 107 00:13:18.220 --> 00:13:24.240 Thomas and Katie: On a date. Hit it off, started hanging out a lot, a lot, a lot. 108 00:13:24.370 --> 00:13:27.920 Thomas and Katie: And now here we are. 109 00:13:28.370 --> 00:13:36.860 Thomas and Katie: Almost 5 years later, and now it's… Thomas and myself, and we're… Pretty damn happy. Yeah. 110 00:13:37.210 --> 00:13:37.900 Thomas and Katie: So… 111 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:47.070 Doc and Charlie: You guys are… you guys are fun, and you have a very similar vibe that… that does… that goes well together. 112 00:13:47.670 --> 00:13:50.980 Doc and Charlie: Yes. Yeah. Yeah, we work really well together. 113 00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:55.969 Thomas and Katie: even in the lifestyle together, we found that we just… we just work. It's like, 114 00:13:56.130 --> 00:14:14.780 Thomas and Katie: we, you know, a lot of couples have these little issues and jealousies and insecurities, and just what we've been through, in our journey, it's like, once we got together, it's like, we just really haven't had that at all. And that's also transferred into content, where, you know. 115 00:14:14.850 --> 00:14:26.429 Thomas and Katie: Some couples are, either they're both in front of the camera, or just one is, and it's like, when they just start getting into it, you can tell that, like, oh, well, you know. 116 00:14:26.890 --> 00:14:44.779 Thomas and Katie: this… the girl doesn't perform with other men, but she performs with other women, and it's like, okay, is there a reason for that? Is there an insecurity, or, you know? And, you know, from the lifestyle, that's what I think, and these other people are like, why would you think that? It's like, because I see it all the time in the lifestyle, you know? So it's like, why would that not happen here? 117 00:14:44.780 --> 00:14:47.059 Thomas and Katie: And for us, you know, we have just… 118 00:14:47.060 --> 00:14:51.500 Thomas and Katie: No issues with it, because we were already doing that in the swinging lifestyle, so yeah. 119 00:14:52.690 --> 00:15:01.859 Doc and Charlie: So, in regards to the swinging lifestyle, before we start talking about content creation, like, what is one 120 00:15:02.350 --> 00:15:07.280 Doc and Charlie: Super crazy moment that you guys shared together in the lifestyle. 121 00:15:07.280 --> 00:15:11.580 Thomas and Katie: Oh, man. How to pick one. 122 00:15:11.580 --> 00:15:18.040 Doc and Charlie: We've had quite the journey over the last two years. We've had moments of really needing, like. 123 00:15:18.040 --> 00:15:28.179 Thomas and Katie: the crazy distractions, and so you just… you just don't say no. Yes. So it's like, you know, there's probably… And we've got some crazy friends, and then we've… we just kind of… 124 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:36.650 Thomas and Katie: we were bad instigators to each other with the bad ideas, as far as, like… and I say bad ideas as in, like, 125 00:15:36.820 --> 00:15:41.770 Thomas and Katie: just… Inviting people over at 3 AM from a speed date. 126 00:15:41.890 --> 00:15:48.909 Doc and Charlie: 3 AM in the morning? Yeah. 3 AM. I mean, I've, like, turned into a pumpkin at 3 a.m. Oh, God. 127 00:15:48.910 --> 00:15:57.819 Thomas and Katie: So my birthday, not this last one, but the one before that, last January, we actually had, like, 3 shifts of friends come over. We had our first shift. 128 00:15:57.820 --> 00:15:58.950 Doc and Charlie: 3 shifts? 129 00:15:58.950 --> 00:16:04.860 Thomas and Katie: Yeah, because we were up so long. We had gone to an EDM concert on a Friday night. 130 00:16:04.860 --> 00:16:05.419 Doc and Charlie: Oh my god. 131 00:16:05.420 --> 00:16:18.109 Thomas and Katie: We went back to our friend's house, so we were with them until about noon Saturday, and then we had another couple friends that came, so then there was 6 of us. Yeah. And then. 132 00:16:18.110 --> 00:16:37.979 Thomas and Katie: at 6 p.m. on Saturday, another set of friends showed up, and we were still going until 9 p.m. hit, and then 9PM Saturday night, and I said, I've hit my limit now. I gotta go to bed. Gotta go home. It was probably a pretty… that was a wild night. Yeah. That was a wild night. 133 00:16:37.980 --> 00:16:45.290 Doc and Charlie: See, that's why we're gonna party with y'all. That's why I need my energy. I was like, yeah, no, okay. 134 00:16:45.500 --> 00:16:48.360 Thomas and Katie: It's a rough week. Yeah. 135 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:49.060 Doc and Charlie: What'd you say? 136 00:16:49.260 --> 00:16:53.409 Thomas and Katie: That's the one you gotta set aside, like, a day or two after to be, like, to recover, you know. 137 00:16:53.410 --> 00:16:58.479 Doc and Charlie: Yes, I need to sleep for a good 24 hours. Yeah, no, I need a week. 138 00:16:58.810 --> 00:17:13.590 Doc and Charlie: But yeah, last time we were freaking exhausted, and I remember after you guys left, I was like, we have got to hang out with them again, but with energy, and yeah, because it's gonna be way more fun. Yeah. We just want to let you know we love… 139 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:15.419 Thomas and Katie: you guys, too. 140 00:17:16.130 --> 00:17:28.329 Thomas and Katie: Even the last time, you know, the AVMs, there's so much stuff going on, it's like, you know, you guys were busy, we're all trying to, you know, get these collabs in and shift schedules around, so even then, we didn't really get to hang out much, that time either. 141 00:17:28.659 --> 00:17:29.549 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 142 00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:33.990 Doc and Charlie: I know, there's so many people that come in town and we don't even get to see, it's crazy. Yeah. 143 00:17:33.990 --> 00:17:34.570 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 144 00:17:35.650 --> 00:17:38.990 Doc and Charlie: And, so, okay, so then you guys met, so… 145 00:17:39.340 --> 00:17:48.460 Doc and Charlie: How long had you been in the lifestyle before you considered content creation? Or how did that transition happen? Because it's usually a gateway. 146 00:17:48.460 --> 00:17:55.310 Thomas and Katie: For me, I'd been lifestyle for 3 years. Yeah. I guess for 3 years. So it would have been 6 years for me. 147 00:17:55.310 --> 00:17:56.280 Doc and Charlie: Okay. Yeah. 148 00:17:56.360 --> 00:17:57.470 Thomas and Katie: We had, like. 149 00:17:57.860 --> 00:18:07.820 Thomas and Katie: talked about it before, you know, joked around about it, like, oh, he would always say, like, you're so good on camera, you do so good. 150 00:18:07.820 --> 00:18:19.240 Thomas and Katie: such good pictures, you know, this and that, and I was like, oh, I would never… I could never do that. I would be too embarrassed. We videoed our stuff before, you know, just, we just could never… For our own personal… 151 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:20.730 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, exactly. 152 00:18:20.730 --> 00:18:30.469 Thomas and Katie: Would you consider you guys, would you consider yourselves exhibitionists, then, or… A little bit, yeah, because it's like, you know, sometimes we'll go to the, swinger club. 153 00:18:30.470 --> 00:18:41.640 Thomas and Katie: And if it's a particularly dead night where there's not… it's not crowded in the… because we normally don't like to play at the clubs, it's just too crowded, we don't feel comfortable, because there's too much stuff and too many people, and… Kind of gross, sometimes. 154 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:47.120 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, it's gross. The sheets don't stay on the beds all the time. Yeah, I'm just like, if I don't have room, yeah. 155 00:18:47.490 --> 00:19:02.269 Thomas and Katie: But there's this one big round bed in… at Colette in Dallas, which is the, you know, one of our local clubs, and it's got windows all around it, and like, sometimes on the Friday nights, when it's a little slower, we'll just be like, we'll go put on a show, you know, we'll like… I love that. 156 00:19:02.270 --> 00:19:06.840 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, that's what we love to do, yeah. You do that when it's, like, a dead night, and it's so fun. 157 00:19:06.950 --> 00:19:18.279 Doc and Charlie: And it feels like you made the night worth it, you know? Yeah, we like to do that at the Red Rooster, because, like, for the most part, we'd rather just play with ourselves up there at the Red Rooster. 158 00:19:18.280 --> 00:19:18.880 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 159 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:21.280 Doc and Charlie: But, like, we like putting on a show when we go up there. Oh, yeah. 160 00:19:21.690 --> 00:19:35.470 Doc and Charlie: And I feel like I've heard so much about Colette, when we go to Dallas, like, got it. Try to go… oh, neither one of… have you gone? I've never gone there. Okay. Yeah, because I know they got a, thing in ATL as well, and… 161 00:19:35.470 --> 00:19:41.249 Thomas and Katie: They have one in New Orleans, in Houston, and austin, San Antonio. 162 00:19:41.390 --> 00:19:43.990 Thomas and Katie: Yeah, yeah, in San Antonio and Dallas, yeah. 163 00:19:43.990 --> 00:19:47.389 Doc and Charlie: Okay, damn. That's a lot in Texas. Yeah, it is. 164 00:19:47.390 --> 00:19:47.770 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 165 00:19:47.770 --> 00:19:49.610 Doc and Charlie: Everything's bigger in Texas. 166 00:19:50.110 --> 00:19:57.669 Doc and Charlie: We'll have to… we'll have to talk and see if we… yeah, and plan and see. We need to try a one lifestyle Club while we're there. 167 00:19:57.670 --> 00:19:58.170 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 168 00:19:58.170 --> 00:20:02.299 Doc and Charlie: We're trying to, like, try them all over the place so we can give a good, you know. 169 00:20:02.730 --> 00:20:04.860 Doc and Charlie: Review. Yeah, review. 170 00:20:04.860 --> 00:20:25.280 Doc and Charlie: strictly for the podcast purposes, for the Bulls and Queens Nations. It's full of science, y'all. We're doing this for you guys. We're getting naked for y'all. Alright, so, transitioning from the lifestyle, so you guys are happy, you're smiling, you're just all bubbly, and you're just, like, spreading seed out there. 171 00:20:25.280 --> 00:20:29.460 Doc and Charlie: I mean, probably having safe sex, obviously, in a lifestyle. 172 00:20:29.460 --> 00:20:29.900 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 173 00:20:29.900 --> 00:20:40.959 Doc and Charlie: But, how did y'all actually make the transition from just doing lifestyle to doing content creation on OnlyFans and whatnot? 174 00:20:41.330 --> 00:20:45.380 Thomas and Katie: For me, it kind of was, a necessity. 175 00:20:45.490 --> 00:20:49.409 Thomas and Katie: At the time, was going through a divorce. 176 00:20:49.810 --> 00:20:57.610 Thomas and Katie: things kind of got messy, and I ended up with no job, and I was like, what am I gonna do? 177 00:20:57.610 --> 00:20:57.960 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, huh. 178 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:04.100 Thomas and Katie: And so… we kind of threw it around, and I was like, well, let's see what I can do! 179 00:21:04.100 --> 00:21:04.420 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. 180 00:21:04.700 --> 00:21:12.429 Thomas and Katie: And I thought maybe it would just be, like, a temporary thing, you know, just to kind of get me to my next stage. And then… 181 00:21:12.710 --> 00:21:19.559 Thomas and Katie: We just were really enjoying it, and having fun with it, and it, 182 00:21:19.890 --> 00:21:22.539 Thomas and Katie: You know, it's… it's a slow grow. 183 00:21:22.910 --> 00:21:23.680 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. 184 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:28.499 Thomas and Katie: not get rich overnight. You know, people think you're… you come in and you're gonna make 185 00:21:28.670 --> 00:21:40.100 Thomas and Katie: tons of money. It's… that's not it. But, you know, slow and steady, we just kind of, like, stuck with it, stuck with it, and then we're like, okay, maybe we can make this work. 186 00:21:40.100 --> 00:21:55.189 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I feel like, I feel like a lot of people, like, they will come in, and they're like, okay, it's been a week, you know, where's my Lambo and my mansion at? Yeah, if you put my stuff up on the page, where's my money? Right? Yeah. 187 00:21:55.190 --> 00:22:02.390 Thomas and Katie: They don't understand that, like, the market is oversaturated with so many people that are trying to do it, and it doesn't matter if you're hot, it doesn't matter. 188 00:22:02.390 --> 00:22:03.910 Doc and Charlie: No, it does not. 189 00:22:03.910 --> 00:22:09.870 Thomas and Katie: that are, what I would call, like… 190 00:22:09.870 --> 00:22:15.070 Doc and Charlie: 10-10-10 across the board. Everybody agrees they're fucking hot as fuck. 191 00:22:15.070 --> 00:22:35.809 Doc and Charlie: They, yeah, they still can't… if they're not marketing their shit, they're not gonna make money. It doesn't happen like that. And I've seen… I've seen, people that look like they're, like, extras out of the Lion King, and they go out there, and, you know, hey, I look like a baboon or a hyena, and they're looking for money? 192 00:22:35.810 --> 00:22:55.079 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, it is marketing, it's personality, it's, how much… how… I… if you're a… if you're an asshole, if you're a bitch, if you're rude as fuck, you are going to not retain people at all. Like, everybody loves a good personality, friendly. 193 00:22:55.330 --> 00:22:55.850 Thomas and Katie: I just wanna… 194 00:22:55.850 --> 00:23:07.489 Doc and Charlie: freaking talk sex with ladies, you know? Yeah. We like fucking sex with ladies, and we're gonna talk more about sex with ladies after these messages. 195 00:23:09.420 --> 00:23:12.079 Doc and Charlie: And then we'll be silent for about 20 seconds. 196 00:23:15.380 --> 00:23:16.559 Thomas and Katie: I'm gonna check the battery. 197 00:23:17.610 --> 00:23:18.830 Thomas and Katie: Okay, still good. 198 00:23:20.840 --> 00:23:45.819 Doc and Charlie: Alright, guys and ladies, we are back! So it's Doc Chocolate with Fun Charlie. Make sure you check me out at DocChocolateFans.com, and make sure you check Charlie out at… FunCharlie.com. Alright, and we are with the awesome and the lovely couple, ABN-nominated Best Creator Couple, as well as Best Female Creator, that's new. 199 00:23:46.330 --> 00:23:48.649 Thomas and Katie: New, hottest, new creator. 200 00:23:48.650 --> 00:23:52.180 Doc and Charlie: Hottest new creator. 201 00:23:52.180 --> 00:23:53.780 Thomas and Katie: categories. 202 00:23:53.780 --> 00:24:14.720 Doc and Charlie: Katie Campbell and Thomas Colt. And you can reach them on their Twitter. He is at Thomas Colt44, and she is at KatieCampbell1, all Ks. So, before we went to the messages, we were talking about ladies having sex? 203 00:24:15.100 --> 00:24:16.750 Doc and Charlie: Ew! 204 00:24:17.300 --> 00:24:19.320 Doc and Charlie: Nobody wants to hear about ladies having sex? 205 00:24:19.430 --> 00:24:21.400 Thomas and Katie: I'm not buried. 206 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:22.480 Doc and Charlie: Alright, but tell us. 207 00:24:23.410 --> 00:24:24.769 Doc and Charlie: About ladies having sex. 208 00:24:25.110 --> 00:24:27.660 Thomas and Katie: 876. 209 00:24:27.660 --> 00:24:44.820 Doc and Charlie: Okay. Okay. So, you are obviously… you and I have been, together, and you are… Together in what way? Together in what way? To say that she's bi. When did you realize you were bi, and… 210 00:24:44.940 --> 00:24:47.749 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, let's start with that. How… when did you realize? 211 00:24:47.750 --> 00:24:55.130 Thomas and Katie: I was very late into this. I never had really thought about it. I was actually not a very adventurous 212 00:24:55.250 --> 00:24:56.210 Thomas and Katie: woman. 213 00:24:56.420 --> 00:24:59.179 Thomas and Katie: Before I got into lifestyle. 214 00:24:59.180 --> 00:24:59.690 Doc and Charlie: Okay. 215 00:25:00.590 --> 00:25:12.609 Thomas and Katie: I kind of went into it because that's kind of what was presented to us, is like, oh, usually the girls, you know, mess around, and then it's kind of like an opener, like, gets everybody. 216 00:25:12.610 --> 00:25:13.490 Doc and Charlie: opener. 217 00:25:13.490 --> 00:25:13.980 Thomas and Katie: For what's about. 218 00:25:13.980 --> 00:25:16.180 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. And it's the XR. 219 00:25:16.180 --> 00:25:19.369 Thomas and Katie: It's like a way to ease into whatever's gonna happen. 220 00:25:19.370 --> 00:25:25.890 Doc and Charlie: It's like the pre-show, it's like, like, singing the national anthem at the baseball or football game, right? 221 00:25:25.900 --> 00:25:26.820 Thomas and Katie: And so… 222 00:25:26.820 --> 00:25:27.980 Doc and Charlie: You're not wrong. 223 00:25:28.450 --> 00:25:38.950 Thomas and Katie: I, you know, had my first girl kiss at, what, 42 years old or something, I think? And I was like, oh, that was hot! 224 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:48.140 Thomas and Katie: And then, then we played around a little bit, and I was like, well, that was fun. 225 00:25:48.900 --> 00:25:52.840 Thomas and Katie: of fun. And so, it just kind of went from there, and… 226 00:25:52.840 --> 00:25:53.540 Doc and Charlie: Nice! 227 00:25:53.540 --> 00:26:00.770 Thomas and Katie: Never… like I said, I never expected that it would be something that I would be into and… and whatnot, but… 228 00:26:01.040 --> 00:26:02.439 Thomas and Katie: Here I am, and… 229 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:05.830 Doc and Charlie: Right? Yes. 230 00:26:06.290 --> 00:26:08.700 Doc and Charlie: Charlie, how did you discover that you were bi? 231 00:26:10.350 --> 00:26:25.749 Doc and Charlie: I was living alone during the pandemic, and things got weird for single people, not having… I was already on, like, a 4-year hiatus after my divorce. 232 00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:43.799 Doc and Charlie: And I was like, you're needies. But I would take… it was when we finally were able to go outside, I was taking these walks, and there was this chick that kept walking by, and people don't smile at people. I mean, you might, like, hey, you know, but you're not gonna, like… 233 00:26:44.160 --> 00:27:03.400 Doc and Charlie: You know, like, you're not smiling, like, ear to ear when you're passing by, and she did that multiple times, and I was like, found myself, like, oh, fuck. I might be bi. I was like, I wanna see her, I wanna, you know, I was just like, oh, fuck, so… Were you fantasizing about this lady? Absolutely. She was… she was hot. 234 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:15.009 Doc and Charlie: Okay, okay. I mean, you know, I can pull them in, but… Yeah. But yeah, no, that was, that was the, the, oh shit, I might be, and then it took me, like, another… 235 00:27:15.110 --> 00:27:39.200 Doc and Charlie: year or two to, like, get the balls to get in there and eat some pussy, and then I was like, yep, I'm bye, let's do this! She's like, bon appetit! Yeah, so, yeah. I love hearing the bye stories, because it's like, I… and by, yeah, pandemic, so I was in my… I was, like, 48, 49, so yeah, the 40s is… 236 00:27:40.050 --> 00:27:46.149 Doc and Charlie: Very, very interesting 40s. Yes, yes. I love that, yes. Okay. 237 00:27:47.020 --> 00:27:58.019 Doc and Charlie: So, tell us about your first year in content creation, because, I… you guys got into it at the same time, or I believe Katie may have started first? Is that what… 238 00:27:58.020 --> 00:28:09.560 Thomas and Katie: We started at the same time. Yeah. I mean, I was… I was barely… I mean, we were both kind of, but I was even much less so a blip on the radar, because, you know, new male creators, it's like, oh, there's… there's so many of them, you know? 239 00:28:09.560 --> 00:28:10.780 Doc and Charlie: No. No way. 240 00:28:10.780 --> 00:28:16.909 Thomas and Katie: I mean, we had known a lot of lifestyle couples that got into content. There's a lot of… 241 00:28:16.950 --> 00:28:36.550 Thomas and Katie: bigger names that come from this area that we had known, from the lifestyle, so we're like, oh, well, you know, maybe we… that's gonna be our end, networking, and going from there, and it kind of was. We kind of got started with one couple, and they introduced us to a couple of the single guys that were real popular, and then… 242 00:28:36.550 --> 00:28:38.730 Thomas and Katie: Just from there, 243 00:28:38.790 --> 00:28:45.459 Thomas and Katie: just, yeah, the networking has been a big part of it. It kind of took me a while to, 244 00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:51.939 Thomas and Katie: To open up to the idea. Like, we did our first collab within 2 weeks of starting. 245 00:28:51.940 --> 00:28:52.350 Doc and Charlie: Ow. 246 00:28:52.350 --> 00:29:02.220 Thomas and Katie: But then, after that, I did… I wasn't, like, looking… I wasn't really looking for it, you know? And, so I wasn't pushing it. I was. 247 00:29:02.220 --> 00:29:04.510 Doc and Charlie: What? 248 00:29:04.510 --> 00:29:15.569 Thomas and Katie: But, like, it took me longer to… like, my next collab, I think, was in April. So it was, like, January and then April. 249 00:29:15.570 --> 00:29:17.720 Doc and Charlie: And then. 250 00:29:17.870 --> 00:29:30.659 Thomas and Katie: July, and then… They started happening a little bit more regularly. Yeah, and then it was like, okay, now I'm kind of opening the doors to the possibilities, and then it was, like, September, and then you guys were October, and then… 251 00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:31.290 Doc and Charlie: Oh, wow! 252 00:29:31.290 --> 00:29:36.949 Thomas and Katie: November, you know, I… I met the King Cobra! 253 00:29:38.980 --> 00:29:41.250 Thomas and Katie: And then I was like, alright, I can do this. 254 00:29:41.250 --> 00:29:42.140 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. 255 00:29:42.140 --> 00:29:43.409 Thomas and Katie: I figured out, just kind of. 256 00:29:43.410 --> 00:29:47.020 Doc and Charlie: And Cobra brought the Cobra. 257 00:29:47.020 --> 00:29:57.369 Thomas and Katie: Yeah, so the first year for me was, like, kind of slow, and then, you know, the next year, then we went to ABN, because he was like, we've got to go, we've got to go. 258 00:29:57.370 --> 00:29:57.970 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. 259 00:29:57.970 --> 00:29:58.520 Thomas and Katie: And I was like… 260 00:29:58.520 --> 00:29:59.130 Doc and Charlie: Working as crazy. 261 00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:09.559 Thomas and Katie: know what AVN was. And he's like, we've got to go. And I was like, okay, let's go. And then, you know, after ABN, it just… things just went crazy. Yeah. 262 00:30:09.710 --> 00:30:16.830 Thomas and Katie: And that's… I'm more of the… you know, just like in the dating world, and in the lifestyle, you know, it's like the… 263 00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:30.309 Thomas and Katie: the guys have to be more of the ones to go out and, you know, get it. And so, for me, that's… so I'm used to that. I'm used to having to go out and solicit my collabs while she just kind of sits back, and all the guys, like. 264 00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:32.650 Thomas and Katie: They just. 265 00:30:32.650 --> 00:30:35.100 Doc and Charlie: It's making best rise. Yeah. 266 00:30:36.360 --> 00:30:37.020 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. 267 00:30:37.020 --> 00:30:37.660 Thomas and Katie: So… 268 00:30:37.660 --> 00:30:40.670 Doc and Charlie: I've got another 15 to look at. 269 00:30:40.670 --> 00:31:05.640 Thomas and Katie: And I'm constantly on Twitter and everywhere else, just paying attention to who's working with who, and then, like, okay, so then if… and, you know, it's like, I'm also talking with the other single guys, because it's like, there's a value in, you know, that relationship, where it's like, hey, you know, where does she live? And tell me about her, and how was that collab, and, you know, that kind of thing. And I've had guys get me into some 270 00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:11.110 Thomas and Katie: real big names, just because I'd say, hey, I'm friends with so-and-so, and that person said. 271 00:31:11.110 --> 00:31:14.580 Thomas and Katie: oh, you're friends with them? Well, that means you're a friend of mine. 272 00:31:14.580 --> 00:31:15.130 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, yeah. 273 00:31:15.230 --> 00:31:17.499 Thomas and Katie: Yeah, it's… it's worked out really well. 274 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:30.889 Doc and Charlie: And I appreciate how much work and effort that you put into this, Thomas, because I know it kind of seems like you and I are probably chatting at least once a week on Telegram. 275 00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:31.630 Thomas and Katie: Oh, yeah. 276 00:31:31.630 --> 00:31:46.280 Doc and Charlie: In private messages, and, like, it's like you're a student of this, and you're asking me questions, and you're like, hey, what do you think about this, Doc? What about that? And, and I love that, because it just shows that you're putting effort into it, right? 277 00:31:46.280 --> 00:31:57.999 Doc and Charlie: there's a lot of guys out there, and, you know, they'll just hit up ladies, and they'll just be like, collab? Yeah. Funny thing, right? Yo, yeah. Yeah. 278 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:04.510 Thomas and Katie: If we had… if we had won an AVN, like, you definitely would have been on our list of people to thank. Yeah. 279 00:32:04.510 --> 00:32:05.600 Doc and Charlie: Aww! 280 00:32:05.600 --> 00:32:28.610 Thomas and Katie: You've really mentored us, and just really helped us along the journey, and we're forever grateful for that. Yeah, I mean, that's just, like, kind of what I do in life overall, is I look at people that are more successful in what I want to do. I'm like, well, what are they doing, you know? Let me look at that. And, you know, it's like, you, and there's a bunch of… several other people that I'm, like, looking at, and they're… 281 00:32:28.610 --> 00:32:36.610 Thomas and Katie: like, okay, well, I like what they're doing, and you know, you just kind of pick up ideas, and when you can, you ask them for advice, and 282 00:32:36.770 --> 00:32:43.409 Thomas and Katie: yeah, it's… it's been… I mean, now we're doing it pretty much full-time, we don't really do anything else, and . 283 00:32:43.410 --> 00:32:44.130 Doc and Charlie: Nice. 284 00:32:44.130 --> 00:32:44.860 Thomas and Katie: So… 285 00:32:44.870 --> 00:33:00.919 Thomas and Katie: I also like the business aspect of it. I, you know, ran businesses before, and, you know, had my degree in business, so it's like, I like that side of it as well, and people don't understand that if you want to make money at it, you do have to 286 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:06.159 Thomas and Katie: Have some business acumen, and really treat it like such, and… and it's not… 287 00:33:06.170 --> 00:33:08.320 Thomas and Katie: It's not just go out and… 288 00:33:08.430 --> 00:33:10.420 Thomas and Katie: Have sex, film it, and make money. It's definitely. 289 00:33:10.420 --> 00:33:11.020 Doc and Charlie: No. 290 00:33:11.830 --> 00:33:30.900 Doc and Charlie: Most of the people that we know that do very well at this all are X something. CEOs, data analysts, you know, business owners, whatever. Those people… all the people that are doing well are, you know, they're bringing all their knowledge to the table, and it's really nice when… 291 00:33:30.900 --> 00:33:39.289 Doc and Charlie: people aren't holding that and not sharing it, because it's like… Yeah, right. Yeah. But then it sucks to share it, and then the person not use it. So it's really nice… 292 00:33:39.290 --> 00:33:54.599 Doc and Charlie: to see you using it, because otherwise you probably wouldn't keep, you know, helping, because it's like, I don't want to spend a 15, 20 minutes, or an hour helping you, and you're not going to do it, you just want me to do it, you know? So, it's appreciated that you… 293 00:33:54.600 --> 00:33:58.820 Doc and Charlie: put those things into motion. Yes, knowing all of it. 294 00:33:59.050 --> 00:34:05.729 Doc and Charlie: So, let's talk about this, guys, and I want to talk about 295 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:25.909 Doc and Charlie: there's obviously been some changes in the adult landscape in regards to things like OnlyFans, main events, Pornhub, other platforms, and I want to discuss what your thoughts are on that, and we'll discuss that, and I want to get your point of view. 296 00:34:25.969 --> 00:34:29.289 Doc and Charlie: After. These. Messages! 297 00:34:37.780 --> 00:35:00.709 Doc and Charlie: We're back! So, FunCharley.chocolate, make sure you check her out at FunCharley.com, and me at DocChocolatefans.com, and we're with Katie, Campbell, and Thomas Coles. And before we broke for the messages, we were talking about what is the future of adult consecration. 298 00:35:00.710 --> 00:35:10.979 Doc and Charlie: Because we have a lot of things changing in the landscape from a political standpoint. We have, adult verification laws 299 00:35:10.980 --> 00:35:24.720 Doc and Charlie: passing in a couple states, like North Carolina and Alabama, so much and so forth, and, like, half of the states, you have to do these crazy things to even jump onto Pornhub, and… 300 00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:27.330 Doc and Charlie: Guys, what are your thoughts on this? 301 00:35:28.200 --> 00:35:39.449 Thomas and Katie: Well, it's like, the pendulum's definitely swinging, you know, politically that way. I don't know how far it's gonna go before it swings back, but, hopefully it does. But the, 302 00:35:39.580 --> 00:35:48.569 Thomas and Katie: I'm just… we're just kind of trying to adapt as it goes. You know, it's like, there's nothing really we can do personally, except… 303 00:35:48.570 --> 00:35:59.869 Thomas and Katie: just try to navigate what's going on. Like, trying to diversify where, you know, we're spending our time, that way we're not focused on one particular place. 304 00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:15.710 Thomas and Katie: Because there's the ups and downs, and, you know, people don't want to go there anymore, so, well, they need to find you somewhere else. So, we're trying to go to, you know, several different platforms right now, and… And not even all of it is from, the… 305 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:20.320 Thomas and Katie: the government. It's like, you know, all that stuff about minivids and how they're 306 00:36:20.670 --> 00:36:26.100 Thomas and Katie: actually trying to move away from adult content when that's… or the founder… 307 00:36:26.100 --> 00:36:26.850 Doc and Charlie: So, yeah. 308 00:36:26.910 --> 00:36:31.399 Thomas and Katie: That's like, oh my gosh. But, so, you know, we've been… 309 00:36:31.720 --> 00:36:48.880 Thomas and Katie: And the age verification is just silly, because the way that the laws are structured, because I've really been looking into it, because, like, there's some, like, XHamster, to log onto that one, you can use this app called Yodi, and so you give your, you know, you do your face scan and upload your ID to that app. 310 00:36:48.880 --> 00:37:01.949 Thomas and Katie: and then XHamster will just pop up this QR code that says, you know, you can use Yodi to scan this, and then Yodi sends all… it doesn't send your information to XHamster, it just sends XHamster a, hey, this person's good. And… 311 00:37:01.950 --> 00:37:12.940 Thomas and Katie: then it lets you in. But a lot of the laws are written where it's like, no, they want the, that person's data that they're above age on their servers, and then that's where it's like. 312 00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:29.970 Thomas and Katie: okay, the lawmakers seem to be just writing this in a way to actually shut down adult content instead of actually finding ways to make it safe where minors can't get access to it. That's not the actual goal there, you know what I mean? Otherwise, they would make it easy for things like that to work, and… 313 00:37:30.300 --> 00:37:41.479 Doc and Charlie: Right, right. And do you want to get my… hear my two cents on this? No, always. Okay, I will move on. Absolutely, of course, of course. So my two cents on it is… 314 00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:43.110 Thomas and Katie: Your two cents will be my two cents. 315 00:37:43.110 --> 00:37:47.519 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. Oh, okay. You better make change for me, girl. 316 00:37:48.660 --> 00:37:57.449 Doc and Charlie: So, my two cents on it is this is, like, the 2020 version of Prohibition. 317 00:37:57.460 --> 00:38:07.609 Doc and Charlie: So, obviously, almost 100 years ago, we had prohibition against alcohol in the 1920s, and in the 2020s, we have almost a prohibition against porn. 318 00:38:07.610 --> 00:38:20.639 Doc and Charlie: Now, the thing with it is platforms like Pornhub, because they're government regulated on what they can and can't do, you have to be over the age of 18, 319 00:38:20.640 --> 00:38:31.330 Doc and Charlie: you have to have the proper permission to post anybody on there. You can't have, like, you know, crazy-ass videos of people fucking dogs or horses. 320 00:38:31.330 --> 00:38:54.780 Doc and Charlie: Or, you know, anything that's, you know, let's just call it what it is, it's vital, right? So that's a somewhat safe platform, okay? That's number one. And then number two is a third of the internet searches are porn or adult-related, which many people don't know. 33% of the internet searches, or the billions and billions of internet searches. 321 00:38:54.780 --> 00:39:01.329 Doc and Charlie: are revolving around adults, right? So, what happens when you… 322 00:39:01.330 --> 00:39:05.040 Doc and Charlie: Make it hard or difficult 323 00:39:05.040 --> 00:39:12.129 Doc and Charlie: for no reason for people to get onto sites like Pornhub, or Minibids, or… 324 00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:26.970 Doc and Charlie: those other platforms that are regulated by the government, is people will go to those platforms that are not American-based. They'll go to the ones that are, like, you know, from Indonesia, or, you know, somewhere. 325 00:39:26.970 --> 00:39:27.880 Doc and Charlie: European life. 326 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:39.920 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, it's not regulated. You could have, like, a girl getting fucked by a horse and shit like that, you know? So, I mean, basically what they're… you know, it's a noble cause. It's extreme. 327 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:41.290 Thomas and Katie: Yay! 328 00:39:41.290 --> 00:39:46.109 Doc and Charlie: People like some extreme shit, right? 329 00:39:46.110 --> 00:39:54.360 Thomas and Katie: It's the same type of argument that people have for legalization of drugs, is it would make it safer, you know, because then you could actually have 330 00:39:54.360 --> 00:40:08.540 Thomas and Katie: drugs that aren't laced with other things, and the doses are proper, and you can have treatment for people to get addicted, because they aren't going to be afraid they're going to get in trouble to admit that they use it. And it's like the same thing. When you drive it underground, it makes it less safe. 331 00:40:08.540 --> 00:40:10.320 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. Correct. 332 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:10.710 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 333 00:40:10.710 --> 00:40:24.510 Doc and Charlie: they're… people will find a fucking way to offer the porn and to buy the porn. So it's like, they're not… they are messing with something people absolutely want and need, and it's like… 334 00:40:24.710 --> 00:40:28.259 Doc and Charlie: Especially with the pandemic, all the, you know. 335 00:40:28.410 --> 00:40:41.509 Doc and Charlie: kids with the pandemic, and they didn't get to, like, socialize. There's a huge, like, fluctuation of guys that have never even kissed a woman, and they're in their 20s because of the fucking pandemic, yes. 336 00:40:41.510 --> 00:40:42.160 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 337 00:40:42.160 --> 00:40:57.940 Doc and Charlie: So, it is like, you know, they're relying on sex education, porn, hopefully not the hardcore porn, you know, stuff that's real, please, yeah. But, yeah, it's, it's… And Flint Charlie is your sex therapist. 338 00:40:57.940 --> 00:41:12.090 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, when she puts the glasses on, she's a sex therapist, and she's a very, very good. You guys don't have to come to my clinic, I'll get all molested on you. Definitely. Can I feel… Yeah. 339 00:41:12.100 --> 00:41:15.930 Doc and Charlie: Yes. We're having tons of different… yeah, I'm excited. 340 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:25.609 Doc and Charlie: popcorn stars flirt. We're so, silly. Alright, when are you guys launching your own podcast? 341 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:28.480 Doc and Charlie: Haha! 342 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:39.430 Thomas and Katie: I don't know, I mean, it's more… more likely now. Right now, what I'm doing is… is because, I'm… I'm not working my normal day job anymore, is, I've been catching up. 343 00:41:39.430 --> 00:41:58.890 Thomas and Katie: is catching up on editing, on, you know, I've been building spreadsheets to track content on, you know, then I realized, oh, I didn't post that video over there. Like, that's one of my best videos over here. I've even posted on that website. Well, when you have 5 different places you're posting to, like, you're bound to miss one video. 344 00:41:58.890 --> 00:42:02.470 Thomas and Katie: Somewhere. So, like, it's really been… 345 00:42:02.470 --> 00:42:12.799 Thomas and Katie: like, sitting at the computer for 10 hours a day. I mean, I'm tracking how much… how much money, because I've been tracking how much money we make on every platform by month. 346 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:32.600 Thomas and Katie: you know, trying to… and tracking that, making sure that, you know, the overall growth… there's going to be dips, but the overall growth is… is there. And then also, now I'm starting to track, how much we make per video, which is difficult to do, especially on some of the sites, and you know, because on some videos, there's costs associated to it, so it's like, is it worth it to… 347 00:42:32.600 --> 00:42:49.480 Thomas and Katie: travel, pay for a test, and, you know, all this kind of stuff. Does this video make the money to justify it? You know, and I kind of want that data as well, and so I'm trying to put all that stuff together, and once I have it all done for the backlog of our current library of content, then it's easier to 348 00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:56.580 Thomas and Katie: keep it up to date, you know, as you release new content, but that's what I've been doing, a lot of that. And then also, 349 00:42:56.730 --> 00:43:12.799 Thomas and Katie: you know, working for yourself, I'm just kind of learning how to structure my day. Actually, kind of both of us are making sure that we're not just wasting time doing dumb tasks that aren't being productive, and that kind of stuff. And once we figure all that stuff out, I'm sure we'll probably have time to… 350 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:19.779 Thomas and Katie: maybe do a podcast if we, if we want to. The thing is, I'm always worried, like, 351 00:43:20.380 --> 00:43:35.490 Thomas and Katie: Oh, great, you know, that's… it's kind of like the meme. Oh, great, another podcast, you know what I mean? Like, do people want to really listen to me? And, you know, I mean, yeah, they'll probably listen to her, but I don't know about me. But… but yeah, but I don't know. 352 00:43:35.490 --> 00:43:45.719 Doc and Charlie: So, I'm gonna answer that question for you, Thomas. The answer is yes, because you could apply that same reasoning to, do people want to see another porn couple? 353 00:43:46.650 --> 00:43:48.220 Thomas and Katie: Yeah, this is true. 354 00:43:48.220 --> 00:43:53.490 Doc and Charlie: You're bringing a different standpoint and a different message than other people out there, right? 355 00:43:53.490 --> 00:43:54.149 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. And the thing. 356 00:43:54.150 --> 00:43:59.430 Doc and Charlie: with podcast creators is they come and go really, really quickly. 357 00:43:59.430 --> 00:43:59.800 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 358 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:01.329 Doc and Charlie: No pun intended. 359 00:44:05.050 --> 00:44:10.180 Doc and Charlie: Alright, you like that, that, that silence, that… 360 00:44:11.020 --> 00:44:29.569 Doc and Charlie: That dramatic pause and silence. So, I love it. So, alright, so we're at the end. I want to ask you real quick, so, world's Strongest Porn Actor, what are the numbers of your big three lifts? 361 00:44:29.720 --> 00:44:34.720 Thomas and Katie: And I want to just say, I'm only saying that because I haven't had anyone challenge me on 362 00:44:36.140 --> 00:44:49.200 Thomas and Katie: That title stands until someone… but yeah, so my big three, because I was a former powerlifter, competitive powerlifter, is a 7.55 squat, a 523 bench, and a 727 deadlift. 363 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:51.190 Doc and Charlie: Goddamn! 364 00:44:52.610 --> 00:45:01.809 Doc and Charlie: I feel like there's a future cage match kind of weightlifting situation going on, and then fucking, and… 365 00:45:01.810 --> 00:45:20.740 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. I'm just saying… Hey, hey, hey, I'm only 175 pounds, you're not gonna see me do a 500-pound bitch press. I am talking about anyone who wants to challenge him, they could, you know, wrap that in, like, a collab, and, like… 366 00:45:20.740 --> 00:45:21.280 Thomas and Katie: Yes. 367 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.129 Doc and Charlie: Gizmo's thing, and then fuckin'… anyways. 368 00:45:24.130 --> 00:45:26.740 Thomas and Katie: Okay, and I didn't say I was the best fighter, I just said I was. 369 00:45:26.740 --> 00:45:31.009 Doc and Charlie: You're gonna see me at 3s, 4s, 5s. You're gonna see me at 3s for a bit. 370 00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.070 Doc and Charlie: You'll see me have 4s for the squats, and 5s for the deadlifts. 371 00:45:35.070 --> 00:45:35.930 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. 372 00:45:35.930 --> 00:45:37.639 Doc and Charlie: It's still very good. 373 00:45:37.640 --> 00:45:38.120 Thomas and Katie: It is. 374 00:45:38.120 --> 00:45:46.770 Doc and Charlie: Yeah. Not for a powerlifter, but for a very muscular porn star, it is awesome. An ex-gen star. Yes. 375 00:45:47.780 --> 00:45:50.230 Doc and Charlie: built for speed and finesse, like a Lamborghini. 376 00:45:51.020 --> 00:45:59.520 Doc and Charlie: Alright, so… Alright, so, last question is, when we gonna fuck? 377 00:46:00.240 --> 00:46:00.820 Doc and Charlie: We… 378 00:46:00.820 --> 00:46:13.890 Thomas and Katie: The sooner, the better. We have the time now, if we could just get some, cheap plane tickets, then, you know, it's like, shit, let's go to. 379 00:46:13.890 --> 00:46:14.620 Doc and Charlie: determined. 380 00:46:14.820 --> 00:46:32.440 Doc and Charlie: We will get online after this and see when the next, like, cheaper tickets, and that's when we'll just be like, this is the weekend, we're coming to fuck and make some fun videos, and haha. Party! Yeah. Heck yes! People look at this, and they're like, you guys are so fucking crude! 381 00:46:33.460 --> 00:46:50.080 Doc and Charlie: That's why I didn't… Nothing? What the hell? Like, Jesus. So, real last question is, where do you guys see yourselves at in, let's say, the next year? And then, what… 382 00:46:50.100 --> 00:47:06.070 Doc and Charlie: piece of advice would you get to new couples that are lifestyle and entering into the content creation space? What type of, inspiration, motivation, or encouragement, or words of advice would you give to them? 383 00:47:06.750 --> 00:47:07.430 Thomas and Katie: Hmm. 384 00:47:07.720 --> 00:47:10.210 Thomas and Katie: Do you want to do the… where you see yourself in a year? 385 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:19.079 Thomas and Katie: Oh, in a year… well, I've been living day-to-day for the last 2 years, so it's very hard for me to see the future. 386 00:47:19.550 --> 00:47:20.760 Thomas and Katie: But… 387 00:47:20.970 --> 00:47:37.809 Thomas and Katie: I think we're finally starting to get, like, our feet back under us, which is really great. So, I think, in a year, I think… Going from survival to thriving? Yeah. Yeah, we'll be really living again, and really… 388 00:47:37.810 --> 00:47:38.240 Doc and Charlie: Yes. 389 00:47:38.240 --> 00:47:40.010 Thomas and Katie: enjoying life, and just… 390 00:47:40.010 --> 00:47:40.680 Doc and Charlie: Yes. 391 00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:56.829 Thomas and Katie: Yeah. Hopefully. A lot more, like, happy times than sad and stress, you know? That's what I'm super hopeful for in the next year. Yep. And then as far as, like, new advice to new couples and, you know, from the lifestyle, getting into this, 392 00:47:57.060 --> 00:47:59.419 Thomas and Katie: I would just say be prepared to… 393 00:47:59.540 --> 00:48:05.730 Thomas and Katie: You know, not… not make money at first, and be prepared to work hard, and 394 00:48:05.820 --> 00:48:21.680 Thomas and Katie: be prepared to learn. I mean, there's so many people that, like, they're newer creators that we'll collab with and talk to, and then they, they're like, what's a co-model agreement? And, you know, like, what, what's MGen? And, you know, just… 395 00:48:21.680 --> 00:48:22.860 Doc and Charlie: Wait, wait, what? 396 00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:41.719 Thomas and Katie: Yeah, yeah, and they just have no clue about all this stuff that we take for granted, because it's like, we know it, we've known it for a while, and we forget that, a lot of these people coming in just won't have any clue about a lot of the stuff that, you know, we deal with on a daily basis. 397 00:48:41.860 --> 00:48:50.739 Thomas and Katie: And I think you have good days and bad days. I think, for… I don't know if… I can't speak for men, but, like, for women, I feel like 398 00:48:52.040 --> 00:48:58.849 Thomas and Katie: It's all about, you know, our looks, about how, you know, we're out there, we're so out there, and 399 00:48:59.120 --> 00:49:07.510 Thomas and Katie: it is mentally, like, hard. It's very mentally hard on us, and you're gonna have days where you just feel like crap. 400 00:49:07.740 --> 00:49:21.489 Thomas and Katie: And you are going to try and post your pictures and crap all over the place, and you can't find a single picture that you like. You know, you're like, I just look like it. I look… I look terrible, I hate this, I hate that, and… 401 00:49:21.670 --> 00:49:23.670 Thomas and Katie: And you just need to, like. 402 00:49:23.850 --> 00:49:34.499 Thomas and Katie: put the phone down for a minute, and let it go. You know, you… you… sometimes you have to take that little break, and just let your… yourself be normal for a minute. 403 00:49:34.810 --> 00:49:39.339 Thomas and Katie: and… And it'll come back, you know? And the next day, you'll be like, alright. 404 00:49:39.340 --> 00:49:45.270 Doc and Charlie: Which blowjob am I gonna post now? Yes, yes, that is very good advice. 405 00:49:45.270 --> 00:50:00.499 Thomas and Katie: Mental health is… for me, mental health is huge within, you know… And actually, also, one thing is, the sexual desens… desensitization, of men, I'm talking about mentally, not physically, where it's like. 406 00:50:00.500 --> 00:50:09.399 Thomas and Katie: I am having threesomes with two beautiful women on a regular basis, and I, you know, it's like, most guys are like, I want to just do that once in my life. 407 00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:20.209 Thomas and Katie: you know, that's their ultimate fantasy, and I'm like, man, I gotta, like, take more Trimex, because, you know, because I'm just, like, gotta get mentally into it where it. 408 00:50:20.210 --> 00:50:20.540 Doc and Charlie: I know. 409 00:50:20.540 --> 00:50:28.849 Thomas and Katie: work, and, you know, it's, sometimes I have to take a break where I'm just like. 410 00:50:29.210 --> 00:50:48.539 Thomas and Katie: you know, not getting to the point where I can… because obviously, you know, you want to keep that connection with your partner, and you have to make sure that's always going to be there. And one good thing about us, and probably, you know, any good, healthy lifestyle couple, is we have that conversion where it's like, I love 411 00:50:48.540 --> 00:51:01.559 Thomas and Katie: filming her when she's having a good time, making her content, and she's the same, you know, it's like, our favorite porn is… my favorite porn is hers, and her favorite porn is me, and, you know, another girl, so it's like. 412 00:51:01.560 --> 00:51:05.719 Doc and Charlie: And another girl. I like how you threw that in there. And another girl. 413 00:51:06.940 --> 00:51:16.389 Doc and Charlie: It's the same way. You're just like, I can watch two women forever. That's, like, yeah, it's like, I don't even have to fuck, I just, I would like to watch you with ladies. 414 00:51:17.720 --> 00:51:20.800 Doc and Charlie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll be just sitting there. 415 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:36.480 Doc and Charlie: I love it. That's very good. Very good. So, this has been Thomas Colts and Katie Campbell, the AVN 2026 Favorite Creator Couple of the Year nominees! 416 00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:46.059 Doc and Charlie: You can reach Katie Campbell on her Twitter, or her ex, which is at KatieCampbell1, all Ks, and Thomas Colt at 417 00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:48.010 Doc and Charlie: Thomas Colt. 418 00:51:48.150 --> 00:52:01.650 Doc and Charlie: 4-4. Yeah! So, until the next episode, Bulls and Queens Nation, y'all stay sexy, y'all be blessed, and y'all make love and not war. Bye! Bye! 419 00:52:01.650 --> 00:52:02.740 Thomas and Katie: No, I'm saying?